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Happy new year!

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Keep fighting the good fight! I plan to be more active again. Rlink2 (talk) 01:04, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A big thanks!

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Hi GreenC,

I just want to thank you for all your help you have provided in the past few days on some of my articles. You make some good points about notability and significant coverage. Your assist with my edit requests is also appreciated. You also have a great way with words.

Thanks, Greg Henderson (talk) 05:15, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some stroopwafels for you!

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thanks Brokenalarmclock (talk) 13:57, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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I forgot to follow-up to the update at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Thailand/Archives/2023#Update. File URLs with the prefix http://www.ratchakitcha.soc.go.th/DATA/PDF/, which went dead earlier last year, were brought back, but some I think remain unarchived. What is the procedure for getting the archive bot to cover them? --Paul_012 (talk) 10:09, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In theory the WaybackMachine keeps crawling dead links over time if they come back alive it picks up automatically. You could test this theory by finding an example previously-dead link and checking the WaybackMachine. -- GreenC 15:22, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I'll try that. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:46, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to join New pages patrol

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Hello GreenC!

  • The New Pages Patrol is currently struggling to keep up with the influx of new articles needing review. We could use a few extra hands to help.
  • We think that someone with your activity and experience is very likely to meet the guidelines for granting.
  • Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time, but it requires a strong understanding of Wikipedia’s CSD policy and notability guidelines.
  • Kindly read the tutorial before making your decision, and feel free to post on the project talk page with questions.
  • If patrolling new pages is something you'd be willing to help out with, please consider applying here.

Thank you for your consideration. We hope to see you around!

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:20, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wayback Machine sustainability assessment

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Hello, I am NanoLuuke from Wookieepedia. I am reaching out to you because our editing community has expressed concern regarding our own reliance on the Wayback Machine. For context, much like Wikipedia, our own policy requires the inclusion of archival links (with around 1/6th to 1/5th of our 188000 pages using web citation), and we use massively the Wayback Machine in this regard. Concerns have emerged from the earliest stages of the Hachette v. Internet Archive case, and with the publication of a recent article by the Jacobin, I'm seeing more and more editors worried that we could lose access to the Wayback Machine in the future. While I'm personally not currently feeling the same level of concern as my fellow editors, I do recognize that properly assessing the ongoing issue is a reasonable thing to do, at minima to appease the worried editors, and if worse must come, to prepare whatever steps we will need to circumvent the possible loss of the Wayback Machine's archives. That is why I wanted to reach out to you, since you seems one of the most knowledgeable editors on Wikipedia regarding web archives. I'm interested in your personal opinion on the matter, and I would also be interested if you could point me toward relevant talk pages if the Wikipedia's community as started discussing the issue. Thanks. NanoLuuke (talk) 13:13, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, the only thing I am allowed to report about that case, is to point you to this blog post: What the Hachette v. Internet Archive Decision Means for Our Library. This is the official and only response for the public. I notice the words "Wayback Machine" appear nowhere in that post. It says "The lawsuit only concerns our book lending program." It says "Separately, we have come to agreement with the Association of American Publishers (AAP).." (ie. an agreement has been reached). It says "Our library is still strong, growing, and serving millions of patrons." It says "Because this case was limited to our book lending program, the injunction does not significantly impact our other library services." It further says 'Regarding the monetary payment, we can say that “AAP’s significant attorney’s fees and costs incurred in the Action since 2020 have been substantially compensated by the Monetary Judgement Payment.'" I hope this helps. -- GreenC 16:19, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bw-userid

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User:Certes & User:GoingBatty: Since I'm no longer on Toolforge, I put the scripts on GitHub, in case anything ever happened to me, or you want to fork. https://github.com/greencardamom/Bw-userid -- GreenC 17:55, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Scripts Newsletter – Issue 24

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:37, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going through your instructions, since they appear the easiest to get started with a bot. Thanks for creating them! Should I ask questions here or at the yet-to-be-created red-linked User talk:GreenC/BotWikiAwk? I'll ask here for now...

I know that Toolforge recently changed. I'm hoping that won't be a problem. I already observed that the page User:GreenC/BotWikiAwk/Toolforge says:

Deprecated - Toolforge no longer has a Grid, as of December 2023. These instructions are outdated. A future version of BWA that supports Toolforge concurrency will be forthcoming.

Fortunately, I am new to Toolforge, so I won't bother with trying out the old system.  ;) Questions/comments so far:

(1) I'm at User:GreenC/BotWikiAwk#Setup right now using SSH login to Toolforge. So far so good. One line that confused me was that I thought "/home/adminuser/BotWikiAwk/lib" should be typed exactly, but I believe "adminuser" is my username. It might be helpful to make that clear in the instructions. About to try that.

(2) Where it says:

  • Add BotWikiAwk to the PATH eg.
PATH=$PATH:/home/adminuser/BotWikiAwk/bin
  • Log out and back in so environment vars are set.

Why does is say to log out and log back in? If I log out, doesn't that clear the variables? I am planning to add it to my .bashrc (or possibly .kshrc or .zshrc [whatever that is]). I haven't used UNIX in about 30 years, so it's only slowly coming back and new features have been added! Oh, I believe I see the problem. I think you mean it should be added to the .bash_profile just like the other one rather than from the command line... If that line was indented, I think it would be less confusing... --David Tornheim (talk) 11:39, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if your intention is to use it on Toolforge instead of on another computer (home etc.), then I don't know what to do because they recently changed to using containers (in December) and you need to make a custom container since there is no container available for shell tools (that I am aware of)- and I don't know how to make one. If you do install on Toolforge, the PATH will be to wherever BWA was installed, use the 'pwd' command to check. The setup instructions are really for installing anywhere except Toolforge. -- GreenC 14:50, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note that you might also want to export the path. Aaron Liu (talk) 15:18, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IP vandals

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Hi! I saw your post on Materialscientist's talk and started tracking this problem yesterday. I've just blocked 2.45.126.120 for a month following an edit they made, and will do the same for any similar edits from the same vandal that I come across. Feel free to ping me if you spot any others. Nice to do something different for a change :)  —Smalljim  17:46, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh great. The other issue took a hiatus as normal. BTW I recently Special:Diff/785135931/1212589135
The Italian editor is persistent over a long period. They don't mind reverts or blocks, as a mobile IP they show up every few days and make a series of subtle changes to numbers (heights of buildings and mountains). Mostly it's been in the 2.44.0.0 and 2.45.0.0 Class B ranges, lately. -- GreenC 18:40, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit on my talk page

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Hey GreenC, about a month ago, I added the template to indicate a user is deceased to my talk page in anticipation of my suicide, which you removed with a fairly insensitive edit summary. I unfortunately survived the attempt, but in the future, please don't assume in bad faith that users would facetiously use that template for "retirement." I understand that you probably run into that situation more often than an actual death, and I also acknowledge that my own edit summary was not very specific (though it should be obvious why I might've wanted to keep the details under wraps), but just remember that there are human beings behind the usernames. I will also do my part and not reuse the template again for future attempts; rest assured I had read the guidelines about using the template beforehand, though it seems I misunderstood something. Anyway I've seen some of your contributions elsewhere on the site and they're always constructive, keep up the good work. --Nsophiay (talk) 02:16, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for explaining the situation. Using the template for oneself could constitute a threat of self harm, which is governed by WP:SOS. I'll keep that in mind in the future. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I am going to close this thread. Please email if you want. -- GreenC 05:15, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Hey GreenC, quick Q - if I look at an old article that has been archived on the Wayback Machine, usually there are many versions over several years. What's the best practice in terms of picking up which link to include in a reference on Wikipedia? I am assuming in this scenario that any version would do for the purposes of providing a reference (i.e. the changes are minimal, if any, from one year to another). Thanks! --Molochmeditates (talk) 20:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Avalon Hill games

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Hi there. :) While you've got your Avalon Hill sources out, maybe some of the following might have more sources to make something out of them?:

Avalon Hill games
Game Year Publisher(s) BGG Links to reviews Other languages
3rd Fleet: Modern Naval Combat in the North Pacific, Caribbean, and Atlantic Oceans 1990 Victory Games [1] Strategy Plus[2]
Atlantic Storm (game) 1997 Avalon Hill [3] InQuest Gamer[4]
Avalon Hill Game Company's Game of Trivia 1981 Avalon Hill [5] Games[6] (as "Trivia")
Baseball Strategy 1960 Avalon Hill [7] Games & Puzzles[8]
The Beat Inflation Strategy Game 1975 Avalon Hill [9] Games & Puzzles[10]
Business Strategy (game) 1973 Avalon Hill [11] Games & Puzzles[12]
C&O/B&O 1969 Avalon Hill [13] Games & Puzzles[14]
Candidate (game) 1991 Avalon Hill [15] Games[16]
Challenge Golf at Pebble Beach 1973 3M [17] Games & Puzzles[18]
Dr. Ruth's Game of Good Sex 1985 Victory Games [19] Games[20]
Executive Decision (game) 1971 3M [21] Games & Puzzles[22]
Football Strategy 1959 Avalon Hill [23] Strategy Plus[24]
Hannibal: Rome vs. Carthage 1996 Avalon Hill [25] Backstab[26]
Intern (game) 1979 Avalon Hill [27] Games & Puzzles[28]
New World (1990 game) 1990 Avalon Hill [29] Strategy Plus[30]
Pacific War: The Struggle Against Japan 1941-1945 1985 Victory Games [31] Games[32]
Princess Ryan's Star Marines 1997 Avalon Hill [33] Backstab[34]
Regatta (game) 1967 3M [35] Games & Puzzles[36]
Tuf-abet 1969 Avalon Hill [37] Games & Puzzles[38]
Venture (board game) 1969 Avalon Hill [39] Games[40]
Waterloo (game) 1962 Avalon Hill [41] Moves(p12)[42]
Win, Place & Show 1966 3M [43] Games & Puzzles[44] and [45]
Wrasslin' (game) 1990 Avalon Hill [46] Strategy Plus[47]

Or any of these deleted/redirected games?:

BOZ (talk) 15:44, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yeah the red. It's more time, right now, I'm trying to get the early history of AH and Tactics figured out, there are some important people, like Eric Dott, and Shaw, who shaped the whole industry for a couple decades until the 1984 crash. He was Avalon Hill, sort of like the head of a Hollywood Studio during the golden age, he was the greenlight guy and herder of talented sheep. -- GreenC 16:22, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine, work on whatever your priorities are (and those are good ones), but if you do come across anything for these, or any already existing articles for games... :) BOZ (talk) 16:34, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK will do. I came across a good source for Yellowstone which I added Special:Diff/1220672532/1222653960 and now I'm curious about a game of herding sheep! -- GreenC 16:44, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OMG lol "Advanced Third Reich" for only the most ardent enthusiasts! No, I understand but I still laughed. I just replied to you on JFK Jr Jr's fraught BLP talk page. I like your user page. The Kafka part is excellent! I used to talk to David Auerbach on Twitter. He is nice. I'm curious about a game of herding sheep too! Sheep and piggies are very sweet. I misread your username as GreenCard Mom and thought you were another woman like me. Where can I find this game of sheep please? The expression, "herder of talented sheep" is pithy.--FeralOink (talk) 07:59, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not a woman! Not a mom! No Green Card! Sorry :) Some people made that mistake. Green cardamom happened to be something I ate that day a random spicy pick. -- GreenC 15:58, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Recently at a film

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Saw your closing statement at Talk:The Hunt for Gollum#Requested move 12 May 2024. Seems you've been editing WP about as long as I have, and congratulations for hangin' in so long! As you must already know, on WP sometimes you get the bear (consensus) and sometimes the bear gets you. Again, thanks for all you've done to improve Wikipedia and to help build a better and better encyclopedia! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 00:03, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No hard feelings. I was trying to establish consensus for what I believe will be a reoccurring topic of conversation over the next year or two, but, things got chaotic and bad faithy, and solutions are not clear, and I have more important things to work on. Someone else will deal with it, there is no lack of attention there. And it's no loss to reclaim my time to do other things on Wikipedia. -- GreenC 01:40, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi GreenC: I've seen your bot updating several of my articles over the last few weeks and fixing links to WebCitation.org – many thanks for running this useful tool. Over the years while researching stuff for potential future articles, I have compiled a list of webpages I have archived for possible future use (off-Wiki, on a spreadsheet). Unfortunately, in some cases – back in the days when I was using WebCitation and it was working properly – I only saved the "short" link (e.g. www.webcitation.org/6EBcbrCbU), so I no longer know what the full URL was and therefore cannot look for it in other archives or see whether it is still a live page. Do you by any chance have a way of running your code across this list, if I provide it to you, and determining what the full URLs are, and potentially linking to an alternative archive site if the URL has been archived elsewhere? I'm not very technically minded so I have no idea if that is even possible! Best wishes, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 20:48, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi User:Hassocks5489, it's not possible to check directly while WebCite is down. But you can send me the list, and I'll see what I can find by comparing with known URLs. For example if I know that 6EBcbrCbU = example.com based on previous encounters with 6EBcbrCbU elsewhere on Wikipedia, which are kept in my logs. -- GreenC 22:09, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest post the list to a sub-page in your user space, I'll update to long form any I can, then run the bot on those to convert to another archive provider. -- GreenC 22:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks! I've put the list at User:Hassocks5489/GM. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 23:36, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:Hassocks5489: WebCite is back online so I could find them all, plus archive URLs (for many). Special:Diff/1223755908/1223757242 -- GreenC 04:22, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks indeed for doing this – it has been very useful. Spreadsheet now updated accordingly! Best, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 16:28, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wayback reviews

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Is there a way to prompt your bot to check certain pages for Wayback repairs?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:24, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not my bot WaybackMedic but IABot yes. At iabot.org there is an option to run the bot on page(s). -- GreenC 00:40, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was talking about User:GreenC bot and its edits like this.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:17, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:GreenC bot is the user account (ie. me). The bot code running in that edit is WP:WAYBACKMEDIC. That edit was based on a request at WP:URLREQ#bigten.org ie. a domain name specific run. Medic is a specialized bot that requires manual controls to adjust for soft-404s and other issues, so there is no web page where users can run it, rather users can make requests for it to process domains, at WP:URLREQ. If you want to control an archive bot on a page, there is https://iabot.org .. but it has limitations, Medic can do things IABot can not, at the cost of manual interventions, and thus WP:URLREQ. -- GreenC 17:57, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you checked 1,326 pages and edited 866 pages, you probably addressed all of my concerns.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:14, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh for that domain, if you see anything it missed let me know, I can make adjustments. I depend on feedback, particularly domain-specific knowledge others have. -- GreenC 18:28, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Broken template

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Can you fix this article. Basa (cheese) - it would work if {{Wayback}} still existed. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 22:39, 16 June 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Special:Diff/1229456915/1229462201 - our old Wayback template was different. This is an imposter template from a different wiki, probably dewiki which has its own version/method. -- GreenC 23:31, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

God's Little Acre

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Moved to Talk:God's_Little_Acre_(film)#Copyright_status_(pinned)

You've got mail!

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Hello, GreenC. Please check your email; you've got mail!
Message added 17:01, 27 June 2024 (UTC). It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

DreamRimmer (talk) 17:01, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:DreamRimmer, responded. -- GreenC 19:38, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A way with words

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"Consolation prize", lol. Bishonen | tålk 18:31, 14 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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Hi there! I assume you're good with regex searches (or whatever it may be called), and I was wondering if there is a way to find a non-"cite-templated" refs where the URL is tagged as a {{dead link}}, but where a doi is included in the reference. Example in this ref a doi was present, so I could easily remove the dead link and run citation bot on only the doi. Does that make sense? Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 18:14, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Josve05a: Hey, that's a great idea. This could be a regular report, anyone can chip away at it. I have a lot going on, let me think about it, will let you know what develops. -- GreenC 18:35, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, and thanks again for all your work regarding link rot! Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 19:04, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Josve05a, I think a search like hastemplate:doi hastemplate:"dead link" insource:/\<ref[^>]*?\>[^<] \{\{doi[^<] \{\{dead link[^<] \s*\<\s*\/\s*ref/ (and swapped) should work, though there don't seem to be very many matches. — Qwerfjkltalk 20:49, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Case insensitive gets a few more matches. — Qwerfjkltalk 20:53, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Scripts Newsletter – Issue 25

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Precious anniversary

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Precious
Eight years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:36, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Existential risk

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Existential risk studies was 'emerging' twenty years ago, now its a consolidated academic field. Do you have any reason to state that 'existential risk' isnt a concept of existential risk studies? I ask you to reconsider this reversion. JoaquimCebuano (talk) 18:51, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stentorian!

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Hey thanks for putting that word back in (with sources) for Democracy Manifest. I saw it in a previous version and hadn't liked that it was removed. Yekshemesh (talk) 16:01, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Yekshemesh: You are welcome. I'll need your support, because it has been removed before, and it will probably be removed again ("hey, what is this word?"). Added sources this time, hope to find more. -- GreenC 16:11, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Got your back! Yekshemesh (talk) 16:18, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FlareSolverr

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Do you use FlareSolverr? Polygnotus (talk) 15:06, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes -- GreenC 15:09, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How do I request a rerun of the bot to tag completely uncited articles?

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Hello @GreenC

Am I right that this very useful bot was last run in 2019? Can you tell me what are the possible parameters and how do I request a rerun either with the same or different parameters?

One reason I ask is because (after some discussion about PROD and AfD on my talk page) I am curious to know how many completely unsourced articles have not yet been tagged as such. My ability with stats is very weak so I am unable to estimate it from the fact that a few hundred are being tagged (I presume manually) each month.

Also there are now no known articles of interest to the climate change project which are completely unsourced. If you can help me find any more I hope to fix them. Chidgk1 (talk) 12:12, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It was User:GreenC bot/Job 11 (noref bot). This was a very touchy bot with tons of edge cases to account for. It tagged about 10,000 pages. It's been 5 years, so it would probably require a lot more work before it could safely run again, to account for changes on Wikipedia since 2019. Not sure I have the time to figure all that out again it took weeks of testing. Probably not something anyone but myself could run safely. It would probably be only a few thousand pages. Really instead of more tagging, dive in to help resolve pages already tagged: Category:Articles lacking sources .. note the high numbers from April-June 2019, added by this bot, are still unresolved though progress has been made. -- GreenC 15:18, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok thanks for quick reply so I won’t request this. Do you have enough knowledge of statistics to justify that estimate of a few thousand pages based on the number tagged manually each month? If not I will see whether is any wikproject for maths and ask them Chidgk1 (talk) 17:30, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, when I ran in 2019, it got about 10,000 and that was backlog since day 1, about 20 years of Wikipedia. Hard to imagine in the following 5 years there has been more than a few thousand new ones added, particularly since the New Page Patrol is more watchful then it was in the early days of Wikipedia. But these numbers are based on my program's algorithm for determining lack of references, and that is unique since it gets subjective what counts as a reference. -- GreenC 20:28, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As you mention elsewhere that the bot was run with conservative parameters I suspect the ones being tagged manually now are not from the 2020s but earlier articles the bot was not 100% sure about. I have asked at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Statistics#How many uncited articles are not yet tagged as uncited? Chidgk1 (talk) 11:33, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is a project (somewhere) that focuses on tagging and fixing uncited articles. They would know the most about it. -- GreenC 14:31, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is: Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles -- GreenC 14:31, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NUMBEROF

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Do you have any thoughts regarding meta:Module talk:NUMBEROF#New aliases? Johnuniq (talk) 02:28, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:JUDI

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Hello, the problem with usurped domains is actually worse than I anticipated… I’ve managed to compile a list of about 400-500 likely usurped domains just by looking at football related articles. Would you be willing to process this many domains? As far as I can tell, each of them don’t have much use (10 at most), but every little bit helps of course. - XXBlackburnXx (talk) 12:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:XXBlackburnXx: Hi yes I can do that. It's cut and paste the list, the bot does the rest, scalable to any amount. Amazing you found so many, just in football articles. There are over 10 million unique domains on Wikipedia, as each falls into disuse, they are a target for re-register by spammers. The truth is eventually every dead domain will need to be usurped, with enough time Wikipedia will be a huge dump of dead domains, a spammer heaven. My bot can only do Enwiki, the other 300 wikis are currently unprotected. -- GreenC 15:32, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@XXBlackburnXx Beware, not only dead domains, but they also inject their spam link and redirects into live domains. Don't be surprised if you found 1000 more in other articles (outside of football ones, of course). Veracious ^(•‿•)^ 10:34, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh believe me, I know exactly what you're talking about. I help maintain the global spam blacklist, and we've identified so many of those fricking domains. It's a real plague... XXBlackburnXx (talk) 12:55, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@XXBlackburnXx As expected from a sin industry, not only ruining those who are "enjoying" it, but it also ruining innocent people. Veracious ^(•‿•)^ 05:25, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:Veracious, I don't understand how a spammer can hijack a URL while the domain is under the control of a legitimate owner. Do you mean something like WP:USURPSOURCE? -- GreenC 18:19, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@GreenC Simple, you just need to be the super-admin of the domain ^_^ . Wanna see some example? Here you go: school websites & government websites -- Veracious ^(•‿•)^ 03:08, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As somebody who is active cross-wiki, I would of course be interested if there have been any plans to do this sort of thing globally? Similarly to IABot, it would save a lot of efforts if there was one single bot rather than lots of separate ones running on different wikis. Thanks so much for all the work you do! 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:28, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Awarded for your outstanding vigilance in fighting abuse on Wikipedia. Your quick actions and dedication keep our community safe and our encyclopedic content accurate. Your efforts are deeply appreciated! gidonb (talk) 18:16, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, onward. -- GreenC 00:12, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How do Pages get selected?

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For wayback medic treatment? Would like to run everything in Category:Deism through this. Hyperbolick (talk) 03:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Right now I am only processing select domains per requests at WP:URLREQ. -- GreenC 13:52, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

www.idvl.org

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I saw you've been dealing with sites that have been usurped, is there a way of reporting this? www.idvl.org used to have useful articles, but now offers dodgy gold. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 18:43, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:ActivelyDisinterested: you can add domains for usurpation at WP:JUDI - like this:Special:Diff/1248115451/1248534984 -- GreenC 01:57, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks GreenC, I knew I had sent it somewhere but couldn't remember where. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 11:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just made WP:USURPREQ. -- GreenC 13:12, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/KiranBOT 12. —usernamekiran (talk) 19:52, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to participate in a research

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BGerdemann (WMF) (talk) 19:28, 23 October 2024 (UTC) [reply]

Thank you

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Thank you for catching (and fixing) my edit goof on the Village Pump technical page. I'm not even sure how it happened, as I thought I was editing a section and should not have been able to affect the whole page. May have been a workflow error on my part (I keep multiple tabs open and multitask like crazy) or a bug. Anyway, it's quite embarrassing and thank you for the rescue. Thisisnotatest (talk) 06:55, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And I was just now able to do the edit I intended, so it appears the software is working. Thisisnotatest (talk) 06:55, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, it happens, happened to me once, blanking an entire VP page. Revert and try again. Cheers. -- GreenC 16:06, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Wayback Machine (Peabody and Sherman)

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Thanks for adding the citation - there was already a perhaps more detailed version of it in the lead, which I used to replace the one you added. I was the creator of this article, being offended that "The Wayback Machine" of the Internet Archive had usurped the term from Mr. Peabody and Sherman, so I watch it. The article has had a curious history - battles over the term with the Internet Archive, objections over puns, some fail to see the point of the article altogether, etc. I was initially unaware of the massive number of links to "The Wayback Machine" used in citations everywhere. The section on Popular Culture has been removed twice, though that is the whole reason for the notability for the article. A lot of this is amusing that a 1960s comic can still have such influence and be argued over. Anyways thanks for your attention to the article! Bdushaw (talk) 13:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Bdushaw Well thanks for standing watch, many articles need a dedicated editor to counter entropy. The phrase "In Popular Culture" triggers many people. Sort of like waving a red cape at a bull. Find different wording. Try "Influences", it will save you trouble, and more accurate. It's cliche anyway. BTW I work at the archive and know the origin of the term, the person who coined it, but it's undocumented oral history within the organization so can't be used on Wikipedia. They were born in 1959, their prime cartoon years where during the 60s, it was just a playful thing they came up with in the mid 90s, when pitching the idea. The idea, and name, stuck. -- GreenC 15:00, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are probably right about "popular culture", now that you mention it...I've gone with "Adopted by the popular lexicon, an idiom". Maybe better, who knows! I have been a long time fan of Rocky and Bullwinkle...that's a funny show. Bdushaw (talk) 12:25, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, I and the other Featured List coordinators were looking at Wikipedia:Featured articles/mismatches, which is maintained by your fambot/GreenC bot, and we noticed that a Featured List equivalent would be exactly the same but with "article" changed to "list" in the category/page names, assuming there's no page parsing differences between WP:FA and WP:FL. (e.g. it's just Category:Featured lists vs Category:Featured articles, Category:Wikipedia featured lists vs. Category:Wikipedia featured articles, and Wikipedia:Featured lists vs. Wikipedia:Featured articles.) Is that something that you would be willing to have your bot do? It would be very helpful for maintenance of that space. Thanks for your consideration, even if it can't be done! --PresN 16:51, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I could probably. Also run one for Good Articles. The problems are usually with the index pages, Wikipedia:Featured articles and Wikipedia:Featured lists, since they are frequently human-edited, layout can change on a whim, which breaks the parser. Most of the index pages have different schemes that require different parsers. Other than that, it should be mostly a boiler plate fork of the existing bot. -- GreenC 18:14, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That would be great if you could, if it's not too much work. --PresN 20:23, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:PresN: I just created Wikipedia:Featured_lists/mismatches/doc. It's a copy of the Featured article documentation. Can you do the copyedits, changing "Articles" to "Lists"? -- GreenC 21:39, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's done. Wikipedia:Featured lists/mismatches has the first report. It runs on the same schedule as the Featured Article, once a week Monday around noon UTC. Please notify appropriate forums so those who are interested can add it to their watchlist. It takes a few seconds to run, so if you want more frequently, but found that once a week is a good pace on the human side. Good Articles runs three times a week because of frequent problems due to the number of articles. -- GreenC 22:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much! This is going to be really helpful! --PresN 02:41, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One more reason to love and appreciate all that you do, thanks so much @GreenC! Hey man im josh (talk) 03:06, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Judi beyond wiki

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Looks like either JUDI or similar operators are like running the same domain takeover operations. I present you hjson(.)org, originally hjson.github.io. And here's where I spotted them. – robertsky (talk) 14:47, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, added to the list. It's surprising it's been mostly limited to asian gambling sites because this method is accessible to any spammer or maleware operator. I don't think the Internet has fully realized the potential, over time most domains become inoperable, and stale links are everywhere. There probably needs to be some sort of initiative by the IETF or SANS, RfCs and services to track it. -- GreenC 15:10, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A search on Github shows 738 links to the domain. https://github.com/search?q=hjson.org&type=code This has been an issue since May this year: but has gone relatively unnoticed, https://github.com/hjson/hjson/issues/96. I wonder if the hjson devs and watchers would appreciate multiple pings to this particular issue as I work my way forking and pushing patches to each public (and non-fork) repos there. – robertsky (talk) 15:28, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh wow. That's not scalable. No doubt GitHub is a target for harvesting dead domains just as Wikipedia has been. GitHub admins should get involved and use tools to automate in some way, like we do turning links un-clickable with the usurped switch. -- GreenC 15:38, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Possibly cyclic Judi

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I had been thinking of this previously, but the discussion at WT:CS1 brought it to mind again.

  1. So dead URLs get taken over by bad actors, and they are marked as usurped here.
  2. If the bad faith actors no longer have incoming links they let the domain registration slip.
  3. Good faith editors change the link from usurped to dead.
  4. Bad faith actors have reason to usurp the URL again.

I'm wondering if the setup should change so that dead is the only option for |url-status=, and only the archive link is shown if the original link is dead. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 16:12, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's sort of least-bad-choice, every options has problems. There is the scenario where the usurped domain is rescued by the original owner and has good content again. And you are right, sometimes hijackers let their victims go free, only to be hijacked again in the future. My sense is once it's been hijacked it's more likely to be hijacked again. If we assume the studies about link rot are correct, probably 50% of every domain on Wikipedia will expire within the next 10 years or so. It's a massive free for all for hijackers. If we did nothing, Wikipedia will become a wasteland of spam and unverifiable citations. So maybe you are correct the least-bad-choice is to default to hiding the original URL behind an archive. It's worth considering, not sure of downsides. -- GreenC 16:28, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A cheeseburger for you!

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For all your excellent work fighting Link rot! Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 08:25, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! -- GreenC 16:19, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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