User talk:Flami72/Archive 11

Archive 11

Archive through May 25, 2013, also contains Barnstars, thanks, etc.

A well-deserved Barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		I am awarding you this Original Barnstar to recognize your consistently excellent contributions to Wikipedia — especially your contributions to musical theatre articles. Day in and day out, you quietly research, expand and edit articles on Wikipedia applying common sense, a collaborative spirit and thoughtful judgment. The continually improving coverage of musical theatre on Wikipedia owes much to you. Thanks! -- Ssilvers 14:49, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Feel free to add this barnstar to your user page if you like. -- Ssilvers 14:49, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Follies contributions

Thank you, thank you for your work in exhuming those terrific quotations on Follies! If I knew how to give you a star I would, but that's beyond my meager skills in coding-land. In any case, congratulations! --Wspencer11 (talk to me...) 13:22, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

	Happy Holidays!
	Hi, Flami72! Have a happy and safe season, and a blessed new year! Holiday cheers, --Discographer (talk) 00:43, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy holidays, Flami, and have a wonderful 2016! -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:36, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank so you much you have corrected my english. And I just want to suggested in the Infobox musical artist of Mr. Menken that he often works in the cinema than in the music industry and just thought we could add infobox person. What is your opinion ?PamelaSommersTheWashingtonPost (talk) 12:08, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Answering here -- I am not at all knowledgeable about infoboxes, and so would not like to comment on this. Perhaps the folks at musical theatre ([1]) would like to comment. Flami72 (talk) 12:19, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Darn! I've been hoaxed by a sock!! My sock radar must have been inoperative. Flami72 (talk) 11:53, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

The sock user was helpful, because s/he directed our attention to Menken, and you did lots of great work there. I'm not sure what this user did with their other accounts, but in this case, I think their intentions were to be helpful. It is true that using multiple accounts is problematic, but it doesn't always mean that the user is malicious. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:35, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Menken

Great work. If you can find some more refs for the early life and early career sectons, we can upgrade from Start-class to C-class. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:27, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. I have now finished working on the Menken article. To be honest, I have no particular interest in this article. I was killing time until I had to leave for an appointment, and am also still testing how to do referencing. (The new MAC is great but I am still stymied every once in a while.) I will be extremely busy from next week until almost the end of March (personal stuff). I will concentrate on tamping down some vandalism but will otherwise not do too much on Wiki. Flami72 (talk) 06:15, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Oh, I suppose most of the early life and early career sections can be referenced from Menken's own web site at Alan Menken Official website. Although, that is not really a reliable source as you know. Flami72 (talk) 11:38, 19 February 2016 (UTC) More: I don't want to give the impression that this article, or Menken for that matter are not important--I think they are. However, I am entering an extremely busy time and I have limited energy...and time. Flami72 (talk) 11:46, 19 February 2016 (UTC) Added a really nice New York Times article about his early life. That's all for now! Flami72 (talk) 12:21, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Super! I've re-assessed the article as C-class. It's much better now! -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:41, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Ye hah! And NEVER believe me when I say I'm finished!! Flami72 (talk) 22:01, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Good to know!  :-) -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:36, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Terrence McNally plays

Hi Flami72 - I want to thank you for your work on several of the minor Terrence McNally plays. I am distressed that someone wanted to delete Whiskey - and you may have saved it. My attitude is that since McNally is a major playwright, all of his plays are notable. (If a shopping list written by Shakespeare had survived, it would surely have its own article in WP.) Under my former username foobarnix I wrote up several of the minor plays hoping that others might expand them. You have done that. There are still several red-linked plays in the list. If you have any ideas for how to improve the depth of coverage of McNally and his plays, let me know. Source material is sometimes hard to find.--Toploftical (talk) 17:21, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Here is a link to some minor plays with a bit of synopsis.--Toploftical (talk) 18:20, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Amateur and/or school musicals

Can you add anything to this new section?: Musical Theatre#Amateur and school productions -- Thanks for any help! All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:06, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

I will take a closer look after, at the very earliest, March 23. Right now, I have nothing to add, except maybe in the See also section, add Amateur theatre. Thanks for asking. Flami72 (talk) 10:33, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

I look forward to your closer look. In the meantime, I don't think we want to add to the See also section, because we already linked it in the text, and I don't think we should do both. -- Ssilvers (talk) 10:53, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Oh, ok, I did not see that link (still can't see it, these new glasses are not working!) Of course the section could mention the MTI "Broadway Junior" versions but that comes a bit too close to advertising, I guess. ([[2]]). Flami72 (talk) 11:10, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

I have tried to minimize the references to the commercial licensing companies. I suppose we could mention the big ones once each in the article somewhere. We mention kids' versions around the text where footnotes 14 and 15 appear. When you look more closely at the amateur/school section, also please look at that text let me know if we should move and/or clarify it, or improve the referencing regarding the kids' versions. -- Ssilvers (talk) 11:18, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Bernadette Peters Edit

Hello,

I just received your message regarding an edit that was made to the aforementioned article. I had no prior knowledge of this edit and I have never contributed to wikipedia. I don't know even know who Bernadette Peters is but thank you for bringing this to my attention.109.77.41.59 (talk) 14:30, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Hmm, it's a puzzelment!Flami72 (talk) 20:16, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

TFAR

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Ok by me. Flami72 (talk) 20:39, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

The Invisible Barnstar

		The Invisible Barnstar
		I hereby award you The Invisible Barnstar for your tireless contributions to Wikipedia — especially those relating to musical theatre. Day in and day out you strive to improve Wikipedia through referencing and generally cleaning up articles that have needed attention for a long time. Many of these important contributions are easily overlooked, but fear not, for your efforts are truly appreciated. —Mears man (talk) 15:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Kennedy Center Honors

Nice job with Kennedy Center Honors, Flami! -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:32, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations! (Bernadette Peters)

Congratulations, Flami. Your work on this article has been excellent, and it deserved to be recognized with the GA promotion. I personally think that to bring this article to FA level, it needs some expansion - more reviews and statements about her by directors and peers, for instance. But who knows, I leave it to you whether you want to go further at this time. Do you have any other articles that you think are close to GA level? If so, I'd be happy to look at them and see if I can help. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:12, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I never thought I'd say this, but I actually enjoyed the process and learned some good things. I have no desire to go further with the article, nor do I have any others in mind which are even approaching this level. Now for a brief summer-time partial break. And, for the record, many thanks, etc, etc, to Ssilvers. Flami72 (talk) 12:16, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		For coming so fast to respond to my {{fact}} tags on A Chorus Line and Mara Davi! I didn't expect for the citations to be found within hours of me tagging them! Excellent work. hbdragon88 (talk) 23:04, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Some stuff

You can put these on your userpage if you like.

This editor is a Veteran Editor, and is entitled to display this Iron Editor Star

This editor is a Tutnum, and is entitled to display this Book of Knowledge

--Ssilvers (talk) 21:54, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

• Ahh! So many thanks...Flami72 (talk) 00:15, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

You get to switch to the Bronze star when you pass 2.5 years and 12,000 edits.  :) -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:53, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Peer approval

		The Copyright Cleanup Barnstar
		For your diligence in looking out for and addressing copyright issues in theater articles. Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:36, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I've seen you pop up at CP a couple of times, and I just wanted to let you know that your attention to these has been noticed and appreciated. :) And if you prefer "theatre", feel free to alter my usage. :D --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 16:36, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Pleased, rewarded, and gratified. (theater..theatre..theatah..tomato..tomahtoe..:D). Flami72 (talk)

Thank You

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		I award you this Barnstar for always being there to correct my edits and do all the nitty-gritty work with my references that I wouldn't know what to do with otherwise! Thank You very much Mark E (talk) 13:10, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for The New Yorkers

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Kristin Chenoweth

Regarding Kristin Chenoweth and headaches caused by flash photography...I seem to recall an episode of NPR's Fresh Air where Chenoweth discussed some of the problems caused by Ménière's disease, and she talked about how she would occasionally literally have to lean on other performers to keep from falling over onstage. However, there wasn't anything in her interview -- or in the Ménière's disease article, for that matter -- which talks about headaches or photophobia. I suspect the edit you reverted was, in short, complete non-WP:RS bollocks, for lack of a gentler term coming to mind.

So, for your adept catch of said bollocks...

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Cookies, I love cookies! and finally I get one...Flami72 (talk) 22:57, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Leave It to Me!

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Thanks

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		Thank you for all the kind, clear and concise edits that you make on WP:MT and elsewhere. Thomprod (talk) 17:16, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

An unexpected pleasure! Nice way to end the year, thanks. Flami72 (talk) 18:55, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Clue (musical)

Hi there! Thanks for helping with this article. I'm almost certain the user you're dealing with is a member of the production staff for the musical and I'm cautiously aware that they may be indadvertedly promoting the show with his edits. I've got an eye on the situation but would appreciate your help in making the plot section and so on more encyclopedic (read: shorter and more concise!). Thanks! — foxj 21:41, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Timing is everything. I am about to go on a wikibreak (school) which will last until mid-December, and while I may be able to do some odds and ends of editing, I simply do not have the time (or, frankly, the energy) to devote anything like what I think is required for the Clue article.Flami72 (talk) 22:10, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Vandal?

This IP vandalized The Pirates of Penzance. Are his edits to musicals vandalism too? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.179.160.135 All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:37, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

I do not think this is THE "Broadway Hoaxer" because he geolocates to Rhode Island, City: Middletown, just too far removed from Brooklyn; and, the BH simply does not vandalize something like Pirates. That said, I will investigate his edits but not before Sept 22. (I am on a school break, even more so today, I must run now.)

RE Urinetown edits. No vandalism here, just inappropriate bolding of character names per WP:BOLD (?). I do not like the somewhat arbitrary separaion of "Lead" and "Supporting" character". He would be a lot better off--and so would we-- if he used the "preview" function and, of course, "edit summary".Flami72 (talk) 10:41, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Continuing my analysis of IP 98.179.160.135 per request: Lend Me a Tenor, added character descriptions, this is not vandalism. Used inappropriate bolding (see above), which I corrected. The IP did not use the edit summary feature, but that is not vandalism. More in a few days.Flami72 (talk) 10:29, 20 September 2012 (UTC) Into the Woods--added statement in lead re Ben Wright's performance (the "brought acclaim" sentence). I had already deleted that as being unsubstantiated. Is this vandalism or overly enthusiastic fan or some other motive? I cannot read into the IP's motivation. Again, no edit summary.Flami72 (talk) 11:03, 20 September 2012 (UTC) Le Médecin malgré lui edits. I have no comment on the IP edits on this article, I am simply not able (or qualified) to analyze his edits.Flami72 (talk) 11:09, 20 September 2012 (UTC) Curtains (musical)-- moved lead character description (in character list) from first position to later in the list with no explanation; also added character. I am not able to tell whether this is vandalism (that is, moving character description); there is no edit summary to explain the IP's edits. I have moved the descripton back to first position. Flami72 (talk) 11:29, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

I am ending my analysis/investgation of IP 98.179.160.135. I do not see a pattern of vandalism; actually, I do not see clear and obvious vandalism on any article (I have not looked at Pirates). I do see a (probable) new editor who does not know (or has not read/absorbed/cared about) the many Wikipedia guidelines. I suspect this is probably the situation with many new editors, and there may even be some studies or literature on new editors and their sucess (good edits) and failure (bad/vandal/misguided edits). But, this is not my area of expertise and not my interest at present. As I have been saying, I am on a school wikibreak and so must close out for now. (Note to ssilvers: you know I am always around if you need me!)Flami72 (talk) 12:01, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look. I looked at the IP's edits to Le Médecin malgré lui. He made a mess of it and broke the image link, but also added (unreferenced) content. It is not vandalism - I think you're right: just an enthusiastic newbie. I had reverted his edits to Urinetown, but if you find any of them helpful, feel free to reinstate them. -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:47, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

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Edit warrior

Hi, Flami. Are these edits by our friend alright? All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 07:49, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

In my opinion, the edits you question are not the problem. The problem is that the character descriptions are almst direct copies from the MTI site. I have rewritten them somewhat. The other larger question is whether there should be character descriptions at all, or in such detail. I will not address that, I have no further interest in this article, as my time (and mental energies) are very limited. Oh, and thanks for asking! Flami72 (talk) 11:01, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. At some point we should try to raise a consensus about the character descriptions since they affect the Musicals project generally. I think that separate character descriptions are unnecessary: If a character is not important enough to describe in the plot summary, than a separate description of that character is not encyclopedic. If people want more detail, they can click on the MTI link, but Wikipedia should WP:NOT be an audition guide. -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:02, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Shrek - The Musical

Maybe you don´t know, but Rio is the third largest market for Musical Theatre, behind New York and London. Why does the Brazilian cast shouldnt be cited? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.122.139.201 (talk) 04:12, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Oops, just noticed this. Will respond after my wikibreak (either in Dec 2012-Feb 2013 or in May 2013-September).Flami72 (talk) 12:38, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Who says that Rio is the 3rd biggest market? How does its size compare with NY and London and the 4th biggest market? User 189.122.139.201, how can we take this comment seriously, and make new policies based on it, without references to WP:Reliable sources? -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:04, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

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Done. Flami72 (talk) 12:36, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of The Mineola Twins

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Broadway Hoaxer?

Take a look at the edits of User:116.124.69.188 to Wicked (musical). Although it's a domain that the BH has never used, the edit certainly seems similar, as is ignoring my post om their talk page. The IP geolocates to South Korea, I think I remember reading something about socks using an anonymizer from there. What do you think? Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:09, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Oh boy...I just have no idea how someone uses another ISP. I wonder if the New York BH has the abilities/knowledge required to do this? Personally, I would treat User talk:116.124.69.188 like any new IP, not familiar with Wikipedia, determined to make his points, uninterested or unable to communicate. I would not want to dilute the wonderful work that you (and others) have done to identify and stop the real New York BH by adding others who are not so clear. Perhaps a new category within the list? "Suspected" or "Not clear but suspicious" ??. (I will not be very active on Wikipedia until May 2013 but will certainly try to follow this situation -- that is the BH.) Flami72 (talk) 12:32, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

By the way, it looks like Richard H. Blake did perform as the Wicked Fiyero in Korea in 2011, as IP 116.124.69.188 wrote. See [[3]]. Did IP 116.124.69.188 also place Blake in the London Wicked ?? (My computer is running slowly [and is overheating] so I may not be seeing everything.) Flami72 (talk) 12:49, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

I didn't doubt the Korean claim (I myself took a show with its off-Broadway stars to Seoul), but London is a different matter. The US-UK exchanges are carefully controlled for non-stars, and I cannot find any evidence that Blake performed the part in London. I may have missed it, but my search was pretty extensive.

I am also coming to the belief that this is not the Broadway Hoaxer, thanks pointing me in that direction. Beyond My Ken (talk) 15:43, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikibreak

It looks like everything at wikiland is moving along swimmingly and so I will now take a real break, may be back in May 2013. And to all a good night. (Is that a copy vio? :)) Flami72 (talk) 10:37, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

I had some spare time this week, but will be extremely busy now, altho' school is out soon, and will probably be back after mid-July. (Did I just sign up for a summer reading group??)Flami72 (talk) 11:44, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

The King and I is at FAC

Hi, Flami. The King and I has been nominated for FAC. It would be great if you could take a brief unbreak and take a look at the article and give comments at the FAC. Thanks for any time you could spare! -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:14, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Never mind - promoted now. Miss you.  :-) -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:44, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Spelling: Theatre District, New York

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Done.Flami72 (talk) 11:40, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

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DYK discussion

Please comment at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#67th_Tony_Awards_date_request.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:27, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks so much for asking for my comments. However, I am unable to comment since I am not familiar with the policies/guidelines/politics of the DYK process. All I can offer is to write a new article for Hands on a Hardbody (which is essentially written now, just needs a new article for the musical portion, plus standard links, categories, basic items).Flami72 (talk) 17:52, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes we need a separate article for the musical. I hope to see you create it soon. See the new discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Proposal_for_a_day_of_67th_Tony_Awards_nominee_DYK_hooks. I understand that you may not want to comment if you are unfamiliar with some of the issues.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:49, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

New article for Hands on a Hardbody (musical) written. I'd like to add a few things, but I am off to school in a bit, will look at the article (and some of the links for the creators and such) tonight.Flami72 (talk) 12:19, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Are you interested in making articles for any of the other nominees?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:22, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Although my school (OSHER-type) is over as of May 8, I do not plan to be very active on Wikipedia this Spring/Summer/Fall (for a variety of social, travel, education and private reasons). I do like to help out during award season, which is why I did some work on some articles, but I simply must take a break for the immediate future. The only article I might like to make is for Rob McClure, but I will not be free until Friday mid-day or Sunday, May 12.Flami72 (talk) 11:30, 7 May 2013 (UTC) To add: I have a few minutes right now, I'll start McClure.Flami72 (talk) 11:57, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

I see you helped clean up Keala Settle‎. Do you have any content to fill it in. It is barely 900 characters of readable prose and needs to be 1500 for DYK.-_TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:02, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Settle: I added some review quotes and minor details. There is one really good recent interview in Playbill, I may get to it later today. (Tony Tiger--I will let you worry about word count, as I am not/do not intend to be involved with DYK). Flami72 (talk) 12:29, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Added the material from the Playbill article. I am finished editing Settle.

Actually, with the exception of 2 more events (Tony host on May 9 & Drama League Special award on May 19 [17]) I am essentially finished with editing until mid-September, for personal, travel, recreational, and educational reasons.Flami72 (talk) 11:14, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

I was hoping someone would write the article for The Testament of Mary (play), but since no one had, I started it. Now I'm on a break!.Flami72 (talk) 13:05, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

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Done. Flami72 (talk) 19:58, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Award enumeration

Please comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Theatre#Award_enumeration.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:51, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi, many thanks for the additions to the Rob Howell stub. Are you also interested in London theatre apart from Broadway? I sure could do with some help! --Peripatetic (talk) 13:42, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Wow! Thanks for noticing! To be perfectly honest, I generally do not write about London theatre or British performers/creatives. I added to Howell's article because he is nominated for the Tony Award, and I wanted to make sure he had a nice article. I work almost exclusively with US theatre, performers, etc, and also with US awards. I live in the US (I guess that's obvious by now), so it's easy for me to keep up-to-date on what's going on here.

As I have been writing, I mean to take a break from writing on Wikipedia until mid-September, but I do enjoy the awards season here! So, I suppose the answer is, sorry, I am now really, really on my break and even later I prefer to stick with what I can do best, which is stay with the US-based theatre. (Oh, yes, I have been to London perhaps 6 times and have gone to much West End theatre, wonderful memories!)Flami72 (talk) 15:57, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

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Drama League Awards

I must say that I am sad to see these lesser awards touted in our articles. According to the aritcle that you cited, nearly every single play of the season had a nominee for the League's Distinguished Performance Award, making these nominations nearly meaningless. Similarly 8 plays (and five revivals) were nominated for best non-musical play, so the nomination is not very exclusive. I really think that including the Drama League Awards does not add much to the articles, and that is why we did not include it in the list of awards that might be included in the WP:MUSICALS article structure page. I think that TonytheTiger has done a great disservice to us by pushing to have the lesser awards included, as it just makes the articles cruftier. In the meantime, I moved the information into the "Awards" section, as you had put it in the reception section. Actually, the "awards" section, should really be part of the reception section. Just my opinion. -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:39, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Why not say this to TTT, do not rant at me! I added the DL to the reception section specifically to keep it out of the awards stuff but simply to show the reception'.

I will now retire from Wikipedia, this stuff is childish nonsense, I have better things to do.22:58, 17 May 2013 (UTC)Flami72 (talk) 22:59, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you. By all means, delete the above. -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:17, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Ack! What was I thinking? Well to start, humble apologies to Ssilvers, a fine editor, for my incivility. No the issue is not childish nonsense. Yes, tell TT, your eloquence speaks volumes in this debate (but I do not wish to be further involved). I do have better things to do and, I really do need a break, will start now. (But will make several exceptions, namely: the Drama Desk awards on May 19 and Broadway Barks in July; maybe Tony Awards.)Flami72 (talk) 10:14, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

No apology necessary. You do more good work on musicals than anyone else, and I am always happy when you pop up on my watchlist, because I know that there will be some useful new information there and a good reference to a RS. -- Ssilvers (talk) 12:26, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

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FYI

• Mel Mercier won Drama Desk Award for Outstanding Sound Design and is nominated for Tony Award for Best Sound Design.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:31, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
• Also, {{DramaDesk PlayFeaturedActor}} looks odd with one redlink.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:22, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
• Some other drama desk award categories were won by subjects with no articles: Choreography, Lighting Design, and Outstanding Revue.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:16, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Noted, but I do not think that I will be writing new articles for any of the above red-linked. (I plan on spending my summer at the pool, at the movies, gardening, having lunch out, walking, reading for my book club, and most importantly, preparing for 2 trips, which I will not further announce over these airwaves but may post pics. Then its back to school (Osher-style) until December.)Flami72 (talk) 10:30, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

O.K. I'll try to tempt you nonetheless. Valisia LeKae is a new article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:41, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

I added some details and more references to Valisia LeKae and formatted the existing references, as well as adding the standard templates on the Talk page.Flami72 (talk) 17:29, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

O.K. but it is still only 1124 characters. If you want a this to be eligible for a DYK main page appearance, 1500 is the minimum.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 12:19, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

As I think I may have mentioned previously, I do not know anything about the DYK process/policies/guidelines. I have nothing futher to add on the Valisia LeKae article; I did the edits to bring the article to some minimum standards (I cannot articulate those standards, they are just my own personal standards). I do not wish to be involved with editing for the sake of a DYK, that is simply not why I edit on Wikipedia. So, to make this long story a lot shorter, and I hope I have made myself perfectly clear -- I will not be adding to the LeKae article. Flami72 (talk) 12:41, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

I looked over the Valisia LeKae article again and I have added to it; not for the DYK reason but because it needed something to show why this relative newcomer received the Tony nomination--that is why I added 2 review quotes.Flami72 (talk) 11:37, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Terrence McNally works

Hello again Flami72. I just wrote a stub article for the Heggie/McNally opera Great Scott. I put in pretty much all I could find. But the page needs fleshing out in the style of, say Three Decembers or Dead Man Walking. I invite you to enhance the article if you are so inclined. (otherwise I will eventually get around to it when I have more time.)

I have a question for you. We have Category:Plays by Terrence McNally and Category:Screenplays by Terrence McNally. Now take a look at Category:Opera libretti by writer. Do you think there should be Category:Libretti by Terrence McNally? If your think this is good idea, I will take care of it. (I suspect that the use of the very fancy libretti as opposed to the perfectly acceptable librettos has inhibited the creation of such categories. For example, there is such a category for Jules Barbier but inexplicably none for W. S. Gilbert.)--Toploftical (talk) 18:55, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

RE: Category for Libretti by Terrence McNally--I am hopeless with categories, and so do not want to even dare to presume to comment on this!

RE: Great Scott article. I am also hopeless on opera articles (and I have seen many operas in my time...). I will, nevertheless, take a look at the article and see what I can do, or at least comment on. However, this week is an extremely busy time for me, so I may not get to it before April 30, at the earliest.

Thanks for asking! Flami72 (talk) 21:56, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

I read the Great Scott article and also read several other opera articles. I realize that I am completely unqualified to write about opera and so will not be adding to or commenting on the Great Scott article. (Today, on my birthday, I declare that this old dog cannot learn many new tricks.) Flami72 (talk) 13:56, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

The Black Crook

Do you think this is legit? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Black_Crook&type=revision&diff=727859560&oldid=724952537 Thanks for any advice. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:03, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Answered at talk page on Musical Theatre. Flami72 (talk) 20:37, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:02, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Peters

Wow, thanks for all the hard work! I'll try to get to it in the next couple of days to see if I can find anything for the dead links. Playbill seems to have moved a lot of their urls, which sucks for us! -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:54, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

What a tedious exercise!! I think that I either updated the deads or put in a new ref, but have at it! I'm done, will watch the little pumpkins parade tonite... Flami72 (talk) 21:57, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

I just gave out candy to lots of little monsters (I was dressed, of course, as the Count!) I'll take a look at Peters as soon as I can get to it, and see if I see if I see anything else, but you did a huge amount of work. Thanks so much! -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:42, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I had an edit conflict with you, so please make sure my edit didn't mess up anything you did, and please let me know if I made any other mistakes. -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:41, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Looks good on a very quick look-see. Later today or more likely in the next few days I'll check more closely.Flami72 (talk) 11:27, 23 November 2016 (UTC) (RE: Bernadette Peters Flami72 (talk) 11:59, 23 November 2016 (UTC))