User talk:Elliskev/Archive 3

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No Problem. Have a good one. Jwalte04 21:33, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Civilized Question

Wouldnt the fact that people are going to protest his funeral, be enough to mention in the article beings in pertains to him? Just curious.

I think it's worth mentioning on the Westboro Baptist Church page, but what makes it so notable that it deserves mention on Falwell's page? These people have protested at 100s of funerals. --Elliskev 00:33, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Jerry Falwell

You claimed the Falwell talk page is reserved for discussion on how to improve the main article. Either you didn't bother to actually read what others had posted, or feel "Doctor" Falwell deserves additional protection from my specific opinion.

I would call your attention to "Wikipedia is not censored." I did not edit the primary page, nor did I add any inaccurate information. My opinion probably constitutes original research (sic), but placing said opinion in a DISCUSSION FORUM seems the best place for it. I hope more people will realize what an evil piece of flotsam Falwell is an add verifiable information to that end.

I hope someday you'll be adult enough to tolerate information you disagree with to be posted in a public forum. Until then, stay off of my comments. Thanks,--Legomancer 21:06, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but you are wrong. If you read the link that I provided, you'd see that. --Elliskev 21:09, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

A contradiction is not an argument. It's just kind of a place-marker in the conversation. Would you like to add something meaningful behind your "nuh-uh?"--Legomancer 21:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I have no interest in an argument or a debate. A simple, dismissive contradiction suits my purposes just fine, thanks. --Elliskev 21:14, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

And speaks volumes about you, too. That notwithstanding, I've re-added the gist of my comments on the Falwell page - with your suggestions in mind. At your leisure, give it a once over and see if it suits your agenda, excuse me, purposes.--Legomancer 21:19, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Check out what I added as #7 on the main page and see if the basic template is agreeable. Thanks--Legomancer 02:25, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Don't mind User:Legomancer. He's got his own agenda to push. You're doing good work keeping the article balanced. Rklawton 22:35, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Hassellbeck edit

Hi. Just a note; removing the 'of' in '...complained of how the media would...' made the sentence ungrammatical. I've since changed it to 'complained that the media'--Lepeu1999 20:05, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Oops. Thanks. --Elliskev 20:19, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Reply to "Your Attitude"

You add it then, seeing as you're so insistant that he is a nice guy (look at his contributions, he's obviously a vandal)CBFan 16:12, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Edmund Burke Fairfield

Hi, I was wondering if you could rate Edmund Burke Fairfield. I removed the stubs from the article, but not the talk page. I think it is above a stub now. Maybe start class, but I don't rate articles. Jjmillerhistorian 00:28, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Done. I classified it as a start. I didn't change the WP:BIO classification, as I'm not really involved there. --Elliskev 14:33, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks rating the article, sorry it took me awhile to get back to you I haven't been on here much lately. Jjmillerhistorian 16:34, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Strang and Beaver Island Articles

Thanks so much for rating the James Strang and Beaver Island articles. I did a lot of work on each, and it was nice to see them "move up" (as it were) from "Start Class." I was especially interested in seeing how the Strang article would do; did you see any areas it should perhaps be improved upon when you rated it?

Thanks again! Have a great day. Ecjmartin 15:03, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Strang Article

Thanks so much for replying to my message about Strang. You gave me a good place to commence in trying to bring this article up to "good article" status. I'd really like ultimately to see it become a "featured article," as I think Strang was an extraordinary person (even if I don't believe in his religion, I still think he was most interesting!), and I would like to see more people able to read about him.

Thanks again for your comments and help! Ecjmartin 20:12, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Strang Article

I took to heart the suggestions you made in regard to the Strang article, and made extensive revisions both to the text itself and to add 70-odd references to it. Some time when you have a moment, if you are interested, could you take another look at it and tell me what you think? I'd be interested in your opinion before I re-nominate it for a new review/rating--but only if you have the time! Thanks! Ecjmartin 03:23, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

My Revert on the Current Events Page

It was done to revert a vandalism that somehow got stuck on there. It didn't show up on editing, so I had to revert. Hope you didn't think I was a vandal. Arbiteroftruth 01:46, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Strang FA Nomination

Question: Prior to your nominating the Strang article for FA status, I had submitted it for two peer reviews, one just as a general peer review (a few days ago, from which I received one reply with good editing suggestions), and the second just this afternoon from the Wiki Biography group. Since I know FA candidates are not supposed to be in any kind of active Peer Review process, what impact would this have on its FA candidacy? Thanks! -- Ecjmartin 02:16, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Amish school shooting

An article that you have been involved in editing, Amish school shooting, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amish school shooting. Thank you. A. B. ^(talk) 22:03, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes

leave up to date information ion the shooting to us inhabitants of omaha, not you outsiders.--Cody6 (talk) 22:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

metric

it may be a US article but not every one reading it is in the united states. God bless Western Australia User:Silverhorse —Preceding comment was added at 02:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

That's true. I added the {{convert}} thingy to display both systems. Because it is a US article, the US system is used first and metric is given parenthetically, per WP:MOS#Which system to use. --Elliskev 14:23, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

ITN photo proposal

Hi,

You weighed in on the irrelevant ITN photo recently. I wrote a proposal at Template talk:In the news#ITN photo proposal if you'd care to comment or support it.

Thanks!

Tempshill (talk) 17:03, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Mitchell Report

I'm thinking the same thing. — BRIAN0918 • 2007-12-13 20:15Z

Report article

It's okay. I'm sorry if i came off as condescending. I wasn't trying to be. I was trying to get you to have a clear head about what i and the other wikipedians were trying to say to you. It's kinda ironic that after all the arguing, we basically went in a huge circle! Haha. Let's get to work, shall we? ^_^ dposse (talk) 22:06, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

The View

What are these threats about? Wikipedia is open to all. The comments made are not defamatory in any way. They are evidenced by the contents of the show and continue to be. This is censorship that you are applying. talk —Preceding comment was added at 03:53, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Rollback

Hello Elliskev, I've granted rollback rights to your account. The reason for this is that, after a review of some of your contributions, I can trust you to use rollback correctly by using it for its intended use of reverting vandalism: I do not believe you will abuse it by reverting good-faith edits or to revert-war. For information on rollback, see Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback and Wikipedia:Rollback feature. If you do not want rollback, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Good luck. Acalamari 23:21, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll be careful. --Elliskev 13:23, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. :) Acalamari 17:19, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

C

Your revision to C has been undone. The citation (from the creator of the language) does not use return 0;, nor is this necessary. This has been cited and has been discussed over and over again. Please be more careful. --Yamla (talk) 14:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I noticed it myself and undid my own. However, edit summaries on your part would be more helpful than admonishments to "be careful". --Elliskev 15:09, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I did see that, and thanks. I just revert these edits; that is, the edit by the user adding "return 0". Given the citation and the comments all around the hello, world, they are clearly blatant vandalism. The admin revert tool does not have a comment feature.  :( --Yamla (talk) 15:12, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

AZorin

Just reported the user to WP:AIV - thanks for helping revert him Travellingcari (talk) 18:24, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

No problem. I noticed your report on WP:AIV as I was on my way to do the same. :) --Elliskev 18:25, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

and banned, thank goodness. What a waste of Wikispace s/he was Travellingcari (talk) 18:55, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

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Talk Page / AGF

Regarding this concern, I appreciate the note. Several articles I frequent are constantly barraged by POV pushers who attempt to insert characterizations of people / organizations / information, which is a violation of WP:NPOV (even if it is subtle). In retrospect, deleting the comment may not have been the best way to handle the situation; it was probably due to explaining the same point within the last 36 hours elsewhere. I should have just explained why such language is counterproductive. Thanks again. /Blaxthos ( t / c ) 20:19, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

On second reading, I think it's important to note that the editor is not questioning the reliability of the source, but rather he is simply issuing his opinion on the critics (a big difference). I'll remind you (as I did the editor) that we don't want to use Wikipedia to characterize criticism, hence the reason I initially deleted the comment. Hope this clears things up. /Blaxthos ( t / c ) 20:23, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Either way, it's better to respond with a response than a deletion. --Elliskev 20:28, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

March 2008

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Thank you. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 16:02, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

What? Can you be more specific? --Elliskev 16:07, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

LOL

On User talk:Alexis29, you said:

"Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to America, you will be blocked from editing."

4.242.147.147 (talk) 17:15, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

That is funny. --Elliskev 17:16, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

no prob

I am using huggle, which is why I am so fast. Huggle can allow someone's speed to rival Cluebot's speed. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 18:24, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Apology

I apologize for the edits made by this IP. This is an office computer, and someone was running an illegal program, designed to edit wikipedia, to include vandalism on random pages. I would like to thank you for catching this, and I will go through the history of this IP and, if it is still unfixed, undo all edits by this computer. Thank you very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.247.44.123 (talk) 15:39, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

99.235.45.4

........Who Are You, And Why Are You Messaging Me ?!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.235.45.4 (talk) 23:26, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

response here --Elliskev 23:33, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Promotion & Relegation within the United Soccer Leagues (USL)

Why is there not any promotion and relegation between divisions 1 & 2 of the USL?

Every other country in the world has at least got some promotion within lower-divisions if they are run by the same organisation (i.e. the SFL in Scotland). Please could you respond to my userpage, thanks Dreamweaverjack (talk) 16:54, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply, it answers my question perfectly. Dreamweaverjack (talk) 17:37, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

A Response Concerning a Recent Edit on Mark Ronson

Hello, I wish to kick off by quoting your recent message to me:

"Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered vandalism and immediately reverted. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the work of others."

My response is that I should dearly like to improve Ronson's work, but unfortunately it is impossible. He has taken many of the greatest songs ever written and reduced them to awful jazzy cover versions. The man totally lacks originality. Because of his pathetic existence scrounging off the work of others his work must be destroyed now for the good of mankind, as it degrades the original artists. I reiterate that his covers are so atrocious that improving them would be pointless. Thank you for your time.

xx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.69.42 (talk) 16:22, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

User:Realist2

I think I should point out that if Realist doesn't want to reply to your messages on his talk page, he is not obliged to. He is also entitled to delete messages, it just shows he's read them. Some WP:AGF might be useful here. Mentioning it on WP:ANI doesn't help. Thanks. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 23:46, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

There's more going on than that. I specifically mentioned it ANI because he's fanning flames of discord. Good editors are getting emotional and sniping at one another. He's egging it on with misrepresentations and character assassination. I gave him a chance with a not-so-subtle warning. I'm not going to pursue it, because I think bringing it up at ANI served my purpose. --Elliskev 23:52, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

OOPS didn't mean to drop in on your little chit chat. Realist2 (talk) 00:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate conversation. You are more welcome than you know. --Elliskev 00:09, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

• The whole thing is a difficult problem, and keeping cool is recommended. Less is usually more in these types of things. That's all. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 00:04, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree. That was my point from the beginning. My original message to him (on his talk, not at ANI) was "drop it". It was a warning to refrain from referring to other involved editors as "right wing christian nuts" or something along those lines. It was an attempt to get him to disengage. Tempers were running high. The last thing that discussion needed was a call to arms (what was it? "Wikipedia needs to crush dissent"?). --Elliskev 00:09, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Far from spreading the fire, if you had bothered to look deeper you would see im the only one actually talking to him on a personal level, trying to get him to change his ways by befriending him, lol im the biggest liberal you will ever come across, but ive been nice to him, be friended him when no1 else would, he probably hates my race but im a member of a community and so i have an obligation to guide him. Ive been above all of you, but you were all to obsessed with the bitching to realise that there is a person there you are talking about, a person that actually seems gutted that he is about to be removed from the project, you know he might even change his language to stay at wikipedia, If so the community has achieved 1 good thing. You should have paid closer attention to my edits with this user before condemning me. Realist2 (talk) 00:26, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I've read every one of your edits regarding this issue and countless others besides. I disagree with your handling of this. Without getting into character analysis, I stand by my assertion. --Elliskev 00:30, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Stand by them all you like, i was trying to do something big, change a person, make a conservative feel welcome and befriended by a minority liberal. Blocking a person doesnt change them it only makes them angrier. Lucky ive been around racism and racists long enough to know that banishing them doesn't change them. They need to be intergrated and befriended and slowely changed. You lot carry on but you wouldn't have achieved anything, primarly because you dont understand the human condition that is bigotry (not you specifically rather that rabble at the discussion). Still i dont expect most to understand, they havent changed racists whereas i actually have. Realist2 (talk) 00:40, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm sure you're legendary. I still stand by my assertion that your noble attempts were less helpful (and more harmful) than you're able to admit. Wikipedia needs to crack down on these wierd beliefs before be become conservapedia isn't the kind of language I would expect to see in civil discourse. That's exactly why I left the message that you deleted. How in hell could something like that possibly restore civil discourse? My message to you (which you decided to delete) was simple. Drop the rhetoric, stop playing both sides, stop the antagonism, and let it be. --Elliskev 01:32, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

2008 unrest in Tibet

Thanks for your edits and comment. I personnally think that pro-independance are pushing the Independance issue in this article, and almost totally avoiding socio-economical issue. Sadly, USA and European based newspapers will probably make the same easy biaise : write down "Free Tibet ! Dalai Lama ! Independance !" is far more easy and profitable than look the socio-economic situation of all current China and so... of Tibet. Accordingly, source toward socio-economic situation's importance may be difficult to provide. We face the limite of the "citation need" policy. Anyway : thanks for your edits and comments ;) Yug (talk) 15:12, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

march 2008

Hi,

I did not think it was necessary (because i thought it was glaringly obvious) to write an edit summary nor to explain but here goes. Please keep in mind that I edit current events daily (the vast majority of the time INSERTing news). Please also note that I did indeed watch the (15 minute) "film" this morning. (1) First, this is a matter that pertains only to (a small part of) the Netherlands. Topical or regional interests are discouraged by wikipedia guidelines. (2) Is a 15:00 commercial really worth noting? (3) We NEVER list the release of ANY film, by any director, let alone someone who has just created their first film. Doing this is akin to advertising the film, which is also discouraged by wikipedia guidelines. (3) It can be argued the "film" is a blatantly racist effort by a blatantly racist man. I'm sure i could put together all sorts of wacky quotes from the Bible to make Christians sound insane coupled with pictures of the crusades, spanish inquisition etc which really is all this guy did. (4) We do not publicize it every time one of these al-qaeda characters puts out one of their long videos (some of which are much better quality than this!) rallying against USA and showing images of IEDs.

Basically what I'm saying is that it appears you are only adding this item in an attempt to advertise the video. This is strictly against WP guidelines. Also, it is really only of topical interest to one man's constituency in the Netherlands. I hope this helps. I will use an edit summary when removing this item from now on. Have a good day WikiTony (talk) 13:19, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi again,

Thanks for the lovely message and warning on my talk page. FYI, no i am not edit warring, just repairing vandalism. Also, I did not "resort" to associating you with the film. I listed FOUR concrete reasons and THEN questioned your motives and i never said you were involved in the film, only that it seemed you were advertising it in an inappropriate place. And regarding edit summaries, perhaps no edit summary is better than "What the hell..." as you so eloquently wrote. Perhaps you should check out WP:Civility. Now, I could tell you what you could do with your "warnings" but that wouldn't be very civil, would it? Have a great day! WikiTony (talk) 22:34, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I apologize if you took offense at the word 'hell' in my edit summary What the hell was wrong with that?. I can't decide if it's a lack of tact on my part, or a need to "grow a pair" on yours. I'll presume, for the sake of civility, that it's the former... --Elliskev 00:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Tunguska event and UFO sighting

Have you heard ever anything that UFOs were sighted in the Tunguska event. This information is present in the article List of UFO sightings. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 14:44, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I've never heard that before. I have a passing interest in UFO-related articles. I'm intrigued by the well-sourced accounts. I added "citation needed" tags to the list because I'm guessing at least a few are BS. I'd have deleted everything without a source, but I figured this way would be better. --Elliskev 14:53, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Let it be

According to the discography on The Beatles page, it is the thirteenth album. Why is it the twelfth? Thanks. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 20:03, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

The reason for my revert had to do with chasing vandalism by User:69.122.103.174. The edit history for this IP shows multiple vandalism edits within a short period of time - all today. I checked that edit against The Beatles discography and decided that it was also vandalism. Turns out that the count is either 12 or 13, depending on who you ask. So... I guess I was wrong. That particular edit, taken by itself, was not vandalism. Please revert me, if you think 13 is correct. --Elliskev 20:25, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

That's OK, there are some anon editors who insist on going round inserting deliberate misinformation into Beatles' articles. To avoid the problem in future, I've taken the numbering out; it's not really that important, since the albums were released differently in the USA anyway, and they're probably not in step anyway. Cheers. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 20:32, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Smart move removing it. Thanks. --Elliskev 20:36, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Wayne Nelson Corliss

See WP:NOT#NEWS. Individuals aren't really notable through one event. And (unfortunately) this guy hasn't done anything unique enough to give him an article. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 21:09, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm aware of that. I was explaining to you my rationale for deleting it; that's all. Cheers! - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 21:13, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Understood. But again, it was all relating to one non-notable event. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 21:14, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

OK. I just really think this one was close enough to line to warrant AfD, instead of a speedy. It'd be fine if the community made the call, I just don't think it was so cut-and-dry that it should have been done unilaterally. --Elliskev 21:16, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

music honorifics

Hi Elliskev,

Sorry about the mess up on the headers in the music honorifics article. As for the wikilink of the performers, I'm doing that to do away with the "see also" ahead of each performer. I'll hold off for a moment, but let me know your thoughts on that one. Hiberniantears (talk) 00:20, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree with doing away with the see alsos. I see your undergoing a bunch of edits banner. I'll let you at it. :) --Elliskev 00:21, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm out now, but just realized User:DeadEyeArrow placed the inuse tag so they could rework the references... Doh! Hiberniantears (talk) 00:32, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

! :) --Elliskev 00:33, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Could you hold for a second Elliskev? --ÐeadΣyeДrrow (Talk - Contribs) 00:43, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Yep. I'll stop. I saw the tag, but didn't see you. I'll wait til the tag comes down. --Elliskev 00:43, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm done now. I tried to get the intervening edits, but ya may want to go check if I missed anything. --ÐeadΣyeДrrow (Talk - Contribs) 01:02, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank You Very Much ELLiskev

Thank You Thank you Thank You for fixing up this page. The last time I made a page was List of Best Selling Remix albums. Things were different a year and a half ago lol. Sorry if i made a mess for asking for a lot of help but I knew the page was a dozze. So its better know and still not perfect but its a start for a good page. So lets keep on working on it to make it WIKIPEDABLE (Thought of that myself lol). Kelvin Martinez (talk) 05:52, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey. No problem. --Elliskev 12:28, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

God comment on Jesus talk page

I was trying to delete the trolling comment on that talk page from that Bells guy. I don't know how much you have been on thsi article, but I've seen enough trolls to know that this is a pathetically characteristic troll who only posts to grab attention. Next time, please delete the comment rather than pointless trying to prove a point thee neither care nor have the ability to understand. Thanks, Tourskin (talk) 17:16, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I saw the deletions and reversions and guessed, correctly, that he could be proven to be a troll. I've seen enough trolls get well-meaning editors caught in the WP:AGF/WP:BITE/WP:3RR trap... --Elliskev 17:19, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

YAY!

Thanks for editing Tim Pawlenty!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've been waiting for weeks for others to comb it. .:davumaya:. 18:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

No problem. :) --Elliskev 18:39, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!!

Thanks for the support!!! Check it Out Honorific titles in popular music with any feedback Talk:Honorific titles in popular music Kelvin Martinez (talk) 13:06, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

MJ FA review

Just to remind you, the Michael Jackson article is still on FA review. You left some comments quite a while back which I resolved. Not sure if you have done a full review or you were stuck on the fence but you still have the opportunity to comment or help me improve the article correcting minor glitches which would be very appreciated. — Realist² (Speak) 15:32, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the reverts

On various articles in May, but I noticed you removed "is a" here, which resulted in the article having an incorrect lead sentence for over two months. I only noticed it now because Washburn is apparently about to be dealt to the New York Yankees. Cheers, Enigma ^message 08:06, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Oops! --Elliskev 13:35, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

ITN

On 30 July, 2008, In the news was updated with a news item involving the article(s) 2008 Chino Hills earthquake, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting news item involving a recently updated or created article, then please suggest it on the In the news candidates page.

--BanyanTree 22:32, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

For the courteous notification re: the 2008 Olympics attack on American nationals AfD. Good form. DickClarkMises (talk) 21:11, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

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You have violated the 3RR rule

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Jim Furtado (talk) 18:18, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

1 1=2. --Elliskev 18:20, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

You have done several revets during the last 24 hours possibly 4 or 5 during the last 24 hours if not more here is one, and there are several more http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2008_South_Ossetia_War&diff=230850474&oldid=230850354 Jim Furtado (talk) 18:23, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Good example. Why don't you go read WP:3RR? --Elliskev 18:25, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

If you continue with you revert war I will report you so please stop doing it Jim Furtado (talk) 18:27, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

What are you talking about? If you're going to report me, go report me. --Elliskev 18:30, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I see that you've reported me. It would have been nice to let me know. I've responded. --Elliskev 15:47, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

First you say go ahead report me and when I do you say it would have been nice if you had told me, You asked me to report you so I did, also please stop editing the result of the report, you may write what ever you want in a response but you may NOT change the result, only admins may change the result Jim Furtado (talk) 23:56, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: South Ossetia

You could've fixed it yourself, you know, instead of undoing. Seeing as I only edited the lead section, it would've been easy to find the problem. Sceptre ^(talk) 18:22, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. You're probably right. I didn't mean to imply that there was anything wrong with your edit. Just thought it would be easier to get it quickly so you could make sure it was fixed correctly. --Elliskev 18:24, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

On further reflection, I'll go another step. I reviewed the edit and it would have just as easy for me to fix it. My mistake. --Elliskev 19:17, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

New Warning

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Jim Furtado (talk) 00:42, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

You have now reverted the War in South Ossetia article 3 times during the last 24 hours if you do it again you will be reported Jim Furtado (talk) 00:42, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I dispute the assertion. --Elliskev 00:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Totally understand

You had said in another discussion, "The frustrated bitching just made me feel better about it." Just wanted to let you know I totally understand. :-) My comments in that discussion concerning the 3RR-issue shouldn't be interpretted as a rebuke. croll (talk) 02:07, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Gotcha. It's one of those "walk away" things. One of those "SERIOUSLY?! Am I seriously getting upset about this?" things --Elliskev 02:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Article about war reporting

Hallo. I'm a journalist writing for Austrian Newspaper "Falter". I'm working on a story about war reporting on Wikipedia (focused on South Ossetia War). I would like to ask you a few questions via email about this subject (concerning neutrality and propaganda on Wikipedia). I would be really pleased, if you agreed to answer my questions. If you are interested just send me a message via my Wikipedia profile Best regards, Wueddens (talk 14:33, 12 August 2008 (UTC))

Date format

dd/mm is a re-direct to mm/dd ... for example 12 August re-directs to August 12. --Tocino 17:40, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

See my response st Talk:2008 South Ossetia war --Elliskev 17:44, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

You did not come off as harsh. I hope I didn't either. --Tocino 21:09, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Nope. Not at all. --Elliskev 21:25, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Well

I guess I see some rational thought processes occurring, however minor they might appear to me to be. I am speaking about some of what you said.

Lately Rambling Man is going a little crazy. I am requesting a little assistance from you. I don't care for "wars" on here, no matter how minor they seem. Crashingthewaves (talk) 13:46, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Did you tell him I said this? Wow, people on here need new hobbies. I think he is totally inept and incompetent. Yes, if you are reading this RM, congrats. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crashingthewaves (talk • contribs) 13:52, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

I guess the only help I can offer is to pint you to WP:CIVIL. Other than that, I don't know what you're expecting from me. --Elliskev 14:02, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Alpena, Michigan

Thank you for your prompt attention. Happy editing and assessing. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 14:09, 19 August 2008 (UTC) Stan

St. Helena Island Light

Thank you for your prompt attention. And the positive feedback. I've been creating or redoing (slowly) all of the Michigan lighthouse articles, and it is good to know we are on the road to improvement. Best to you. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 14:14, 19 August 2008 (UTC) Stan

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Metric units

Hi,

Thanks for your comments at MOSNUM. Have you considered using my handy tabs script? I use it to add metric units in just one click and also to delink overlinking of dates. If you would like to use the tabs, simply go to your User:Elliskev/monobook.js and paste in:

importScript('User:Lightmouse/monobook.js/script.js');

Press 'Save'. Then clear your cache according to the instructions. Go to a page that you want to edit and press the 'edit this page' tab (as you usually do). Then you will see some new tabs appear beside the usual 'history' and other tabs. For example, the tab called 'all dates' will delink all dates. Regards Lightmouse (talk) 17:37, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Very handy. Thanks! --Elliskev 17:51, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Do you have a doc page? --Elliskev 17:53, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Would

Alright, kindly refrain from continuing the nonsense I think you are doing, please? Thunderstruck45 (talk) 14:13, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Ummmm. What? Sorry. I don't think I know what you are referring to. --Elliskev 15:05, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

See Talk:2008 attack during the Olympics .:davumaya:. 18:38, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Ahhhh. Thanks. --Elliskev 18:45, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppet case

You may want to comment at this discussion as your talk page was involved, Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Crashingthewaves.Nrswanson (talk) 00:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

inserting unsourced defamatory content

placing his known middle name in the article does not represent what you are stating. it is a known fact that hussein is his middle name. this is in no way an unsourced defamatory content —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pancakelizard (talk • contribs)

Changing his religion to Muslim without supplying a source... --Elliskev 17:19, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

is this good enough? http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_barack_obama_muslim.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pancakelizard (talk • contribs) 17:25, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

No. Please read WP:RS, WP:BLP, and WP:POINT. --Elliskev 17:27, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

another link. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pancakelizard (talk • contribs) 17:27, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

No. Not that one, either. The first link you provided specifically calls the rumor false. The second specifically says that he denies being a Muslim. --Elliskev 17:30, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

OMG people are STILL trying to insert that religion thing into his article? Several debates later I guess it doesn't stop. Btdubs, I'm pretty sure some RNC, we will receive a lot of unwanted attention so put TPaw, MN-Mpls-StPaul, MSP Airport, and anything you can think of on watch. .:davumaya:. 19:21, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Alaska Republican Gubernatorial Primary Election, 2006

Will you create this article? It is red link in Sarah Palin. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 14:12, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Done. Quick and dirty. --Elliskev 14:29, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

YAY!

He's not VP, sad for Minnesota but good for my revert button :) .:davumaya:. 17:25, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Sarah Palin and User:Young Trigg

I just responded to your comment over at the talk page for User:Young Trigg. You can feel free to respond here if you have any other comments that don't directly relate to advice to that editor.   user:j    (aka justen)   19:20, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Was anything controversial added? Was anything added that did not include a citation? It looks to me as if this editor is doing a good job; within the rules. Much better than most other editors of that article. --Elliskev 19:36, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

You'll notice that the conflict of interest guidelines specifically acknowledge that editors with a potential conflict of interest can help make important improvements to articles. I said as much in my post to User:Young Trigg's talk page. However, some of that editor's edits have since been viewed as particularly favorable, and have since been reverted or reworded. One more time, hence why {{uw-coi}} is written the way it is, and hence why I added a specific introduction to help clarify the reasons for the template.   user:j    (aka justen)   19:42, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Whatever. It was a rude post, doesn't assume good faith, and wasn't warranted. --Elliskev 19:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate your taking the time to elaborate on your concerns, but I'm afraid they're just not based on the facts in this situation. In any event, I wish you well in your future editing. Take care,   user:j    (aka justen)   20:08, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not obliged to elaborate my concerns. I'm not the one who posted an unwarranted notice to a new user. However, I believe that my concerns were addressed. --Elliskev 20:29, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I was thanking you for elaborating on your concerns. I'm striving for neutrality in this article, I'm not interested in "tilting" the article in any direction, except to help ensure it's neutral. You seem to believe that I'm somehow against Sarah Palin, and you couldn't be further from the truth. I want the article to be neutral, not negative, not positive.   user:j    (aka justen)   20:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I removed my little rant. I didn't mean to insinuate that you were trying to tilt it. However, I'll admit, it did come across that way. That's exactly how I would have read it. I apologize for that.

I just don't think that Young Trigg's edits warranted slapping down the COI rules. That comes across as accusatory and bitey. An assumption of good faith would be "Thanks for the great additions. I noticed your user name is similar to one of Palin's children. Are you a member of her family?" If the answer is yes, then comes the COI notice. Am I making sense? --Elliskev 20:57, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

(←) Certainly you're making sense. I just disagree.  :) But the template has actually been written to specifically not bite. Beyond that, if User:Young Trigg was an established editor, I would have presumed they were familiar with the conflict of interest policy. But the account appears to have been created specifically as a single purpose account, with some very advanced experience with Wikipedia, and some very deep knowledge of Sarah Palin, hence the conflict of interest notice. I truly appreciate your taking the time to express your concerns to me, but, again, if I see what may be a conflict of interest, I'm not going to hesitate to share our policy with that editor, regardless of whether I agree or disagree with their point of view.   user:j    (aka justen)   21:06, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

pro-life and pro-choice

You mention on the Palin discussion page that there has been wikipedia discussion on the use of the labels pro-life and pro-choice. Can you point me to those discussions? Thanks! Olorinish (talk) 15:10, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure. I infer consensus by the fact that the Abortion article refers to the sides as pro-life and pro-choice. We also have articles with those titles. --Elliskev 19:39, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

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I provided some information on Sarah Palin concerning her wolf bounties. The name of the judge who ordered her to stop offering the bounties is : Alaska State Superior court judge William Morse. I could not go back in to edit the name of the judge in the article. QuantumRedWolf (talk) 16:49, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Elliskev:

I have reverted your reversions. Your changes do not improve the article. For instance your abrupt reference to "The specialized biting ability allows bullfrogs . . ." is a non sequitur. The reader has no clue what is this biting ability. My version-- and I did the research-- properly introduces this specialization of the bullfrog feeding motor pattern. Another example: you replace "posterior" with "behind" the female's forelimbs in the description of amplexus. Anatomists and animal behaviorists avoid such ambiguous terms. Here "behind" could be taken several ways, whereas "posterior" only one. Please refrain from damaging what is clear and unambiguous. Thanks for your cooperation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fer-de-lance (talk • contribs) 09:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Merge proposal

Please see WT:Only_make_links_that_are_relevant_to_the_context#Break 1 for the current discussion. I'm letting everyone know who has a comment on the relevant talk pages. Obviously, we're not going to push anything through without a full discussion of every issue, including whether to merge at all. My sense is that there's wide agreement on all the big points, but the devil is in the details. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 18:39, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

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wow?

life what! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mckennant (talk • contribs) 12:49, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

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You're just trying to confuse me, aren't you?

Now I understand--I saw the intermediate version, where you proposed merging the article from itself, and assumed you meant "SmallBASIC"... scot (talk) 22:04, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

LOL. Yeah. I saw the SmallBASIC article, followed it to Microsft Small Basic, then later checked to see if Small Basic redirected to either, and found a third article. I wasn't sure, at first, to which of the others it belonged. --Elliskev 01:22, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

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Natasha Richardson

I don't want to revert you but I think you made a mistake. The is exactly correct because it is for such cases. And there are sourcing reporting death, New York Post for example. I got to go offline now but you might want to change that article with that information. Regards SoWhy 21:21, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

That link is a report of a rumor, not an official confirmation. If and when there is an official confirmation, we won't have to rely on reports of unnamed sources or gossip columnists. --Elliskev 21:24, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Binghamton

Super speedy date fix, ty :-)  Chzz  ►  18:57, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Binghamton shootings

Nice work on the move - I wanted to do that too.

When I did the rewrite for tense, I had 8 - eight - edit conflicts!

Cheers,  Chzz  ►  20:09, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Heh. I had to try the date format three times before it took. --Elliskev 20:12, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

User page

Are those two redlinks pages you are suggesting for creation? Daniel Christensen (talk) 20:14, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. I have a week off coming up and thought I'd see if I could get at least one of them started. --Elliskev 20:15, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Temporary injunction and your use of my monobook script

Hi Elliskev,

I am pleased to see that you have used my monobook script in the past; I hope you've found it useful.

I have to let you know on your talk page that ArbCom has announced a temporary injunction against the "mass delinking of dates". You can still delink dates on an occasional basis; however, you may wish to be cautious and use the script only for its non-date functions until the issue is resolved by an RFC poll. You may wish to express your view on autoformatting and date linking in the RFC at: Wikipedia:Date_formatting_and_linking_poll.

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James Barrett

Is that Colonel James Barrett you're refering to? Daniel Christensen (talk) 19:36, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes. --Elliskev 02:45, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Edes

Is that the publisher of the American Revolution times you're refering to? Daniel Christensen (talk) 19:38, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes. --Elliskev 02:45, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Found plenty of good info on Edes, but I think the article on Barettes farm is enough for him; couldn't find anything on him specifically. Daniel Christensen (talk) 04:22, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Edes references

Help me get Virtualology.com off the blacklist, it's a great site and a good references for Edes. go to Wp:Blacklist; find my entry on the cite under requested removals. The site isn't spammy at all. Daniel Christensen (talk) 04:22, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Confusion

Hey, Elliskev. I need you to answer me immediately when you can. I don't understand, but I've noticed that Mississippi, Georgia and Iowa are no longer marked as states with the swine flu. What's going on? Is the problem solved in those states? It seems like that's the only possibility, because I noticed the map has recently started showing signs that the swine flu may be receding. But the question is: is it? Bob.--75.4.132.69 (talk) 01:57, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

I'll point you to Georgia, Iowa, and Mississippi. I can't answer your question of the status of the flu in those States beyond what those links can tell you. Sorry. --Elliskev 02:03, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

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Radioteletype - two questions

I was reviewing your changes to Radioteletype and I do not understand how you can say that the PC software necessary to emulate a teleprinter isn't "special". If the PC has a soundcard, custom software needs to be written to receive or decode AFSK signal, buffer it, manipulate issues such as different speeds, stop bit lengths, unshift on space option and normal / reverse, and finally display the output on the PC's screen. Alternately, there are similar issues if the PC is front-ended with a terminal unit that hands off the data stream at EIA level. I don't know how a standalone PC would be handle this without custom or "special" software.

In checking the Internet, I was able to locate this webpage --> http://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Software/RTTY/ that lists a number of custom programs that will allow a PC to emulate a teleprinter. MMTTY and MixW are good examples of this type of custom software.

Therefore, please elaborate as to why you removed information from Wikipedia's article on Radioteletype related to a PC emulating a teleprinter, specifically changing "...either the entire family of systems connecting two or more teleprinters or PCs using special software to emulate teleprinters over radio, regardless of alphabet, link system or modulation..." to "...either the entire family of systems connecting two or more teleprinters or PCs over radio, regardless of alphabet, link system or modulation..."

In addition, I see that you deleted a paragraph of information (Slow by modern standards) from this same article with a note "...unreferenced and without reference to a relevant standard for keyboard-to-keyboard communications..." I suggest that it be better to add the appropriate reference to factual information rather than deleting this information. Alternately, you could add "citation needed" versus a straight deletion of information.

I also don't understand your "keyboard-to-keyboard communications" reference. Are you of the opinion that Radioteletype was chiefly "keyboard-to-keyboard". If so, I have to offer a different opinion as news and weather distribution in a point to multipoint configuration were good examples of commercial Radioteletype, all of which ran at machine speed usually via paper tape. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wa3frp (talk • contribs) 00:29, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

It's been a few days since I asked these questions and I see that you are active on Wikipedia so I assume that you either missed my question or you choose to ignore it. I am leaving this follow-up and if no reply in a week, I'll revert your changes to radioteletype.Wa3frp (talk) 03:00, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I haven't been on in a while. My removal of the word "special" was because it doesn't make any sense to me. Isn't ALL software "special"? Anyway, go ahead and revert my changes if you disagree with them. --Elliskev 20:20, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Can you help!

I know you've done some work on List of Honorific titles, Can you give your opinion on it on this. page .http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_honorific_titles_in_popular_music_(2nd_nomination) ITalkTheTruth (talk) 09:54, 22 August 2009 (UTC)