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I have unreviewed a page you curated
[edit]Thanks for reviewing Martin Zielke, DGG.
I dream of horses has gone over this page again and marked it as unpatrolled. Their note is:
Was intended to be a AfC draft.
Please contact I dream of horses for any further query. Thanks.
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I dream of horses If you reply here, please ping me by adding {{U|I dream of horses}} to your message (talk to me) (My edits) @ 03:56, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- I dream of horses, where is the current text of this material.? You seem to have produced circular redirects. DGG ( talk ) 04:31, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- At Draft:Martin Zielke. I dream of horses If you reply here, please ping me by adding {{U|I dream of horses}} to your message (talk to me) (My edits) @ 04:41, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- I dream of horses I consider it good enough for mainspace; I think it has adequate sourcing for notability to pass AfD, and being likely to pass AfD is the criterion for accepting. I therefore accepted it, If you disagree, the next step is AfD, and we will find out what the consensus is. . DGG ( talk ) 08:54, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- That's fine. I can be overly cautious as to what should be/remain in mainspace, so it makes sense to have some checks and balances. I dream of horses If you reply here, please ping me by adding {{U|I dream of horses}} to your message (talk to me) (My edits) @ 09:15, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- I dream of horses I consider it good enough for mainspace; I think it has adequate sourcing for notability to pass AfD, and being likely to pass AfD is the criterion for accepting. I therefore accepted it, If you disagree, the next step is AfD, and we will find out what the consensus is. . DGG ( talk ) 08:54, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- At Draft:Martin Zielke. I dream of horses If you reply here, please ping me by adding {{U|I dream of horses}} to your message (talk to me) (My edits) @ 04:41, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2019
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2019).
Articles for Creation[edit]Your comments on the Force theory draft are well taken. Is there some way I can find other people who would want to work on the article? I won't have much time to do so for the foreseeable future. Themane2 (talk) 23:13, 4 March 2019 (UTC) The "No Nazis" essay[edit]Hello DGG, It's me again. I'm the same IP editor who was commenting in this discussion. Could you please take a look at this? [1] [2] There seems to be an attempt to shut down discussion about this issue, and I think it needs to be discussed. Thanks, 2601:42:800:A9DB:7C8C:99A8:4EE9:72F1 (talk) 05:35, 7 March 2019 (UTC) AfD of interest[edit]A few years ago you commented (not voted) in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Interface: a journal for and about social movements (2nd nomination). Now it is at AfD again, and I'd highly value your opinion in this borderline case: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Interface: A Journal for and about Social Movements. Cheers, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:43, 8 March 2019 (UTC) Request[edit]Dear DGG, I'm grateful for your detailed critique and have tried to rewrite the article Draft:BrainStorm Cell Therapeutics following you suggestions, is it ok now ? Tzahy (talk) 14:49, 12 March 2019 (UTC) Patten[edit]Re Mr JT Patten, can you please explain why it appears promotional? And what can be done to improve the page? He is one of the more highly respected individuals in US intelligence strategy, noted in the publication references and co authorship to those currently on Wiki pages. There was also mention of his being self-published by you. He has been published by Kensington through Penguin Books, which is also referenced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DonovanBlack6 (talk • contribs) 04:37, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
About: Cigniti[edit]Hi DGG,
Draft:Lee McClure revision[edit]Hi DGG, You declined my first submission of the Lee McClure article on Feb 26. I found your objections clear, and I've revised the article to attempt to address them. Your comments were broad, not addressing particular sections much less sentences - probably the draft erred too pervasively to merit that. I wonder if you would briefly look over the new draft, and at least indicate if any passages are still problematic. I realize I can't really ask you to perform a "pre-review", but it would be helpful to see if I understood the scope of your objections. At the top of my list of worries: the 2nd and 3rd to last paragraphs of the "Opposition" section, which recount dialogs that really occurred, and which more than one person corroborates, but for which there's no published reference. I also wonder if the amount of detail in certain sections could be deemed excessive. Thanks in advance, Twangist (talk) 02:53, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
NPR Newsletter No.17[edit]Hello DGG,
Six Month Queue Data: Today – Low – 2393 High – 4828 Go here to remove your name if you wish to opt-out of future mailings. Page Curation resizing[edit]Hi DGG! I mentioned you on a page related to your request for a resizing feature on page curation windows in the toolbar over at meta:Talk:Community Tech/Page Curation and New Pages Feed improvements. I wonder if you could take over that conversation and discuss exactly what you had in mind. Cheers, — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)(click me!) 22:13, 17 March 2019 (UTC) March 20: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC March 23: Asian Art Archive/New York Public Library[edit]
Deletion Policy Proposal[edit]I was hoping you might consider tweaking your proposal offered in the X5 discussions and submitting to WT:DEL since a bit of an amorphous discussion on the issue has started and I think your proposal might help bring some structure and a useful idea to it. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:13, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
University of Southern Maine - edits needed - DGG - thanks!![edit]Hi DGG: You recently communicated with a member of our university about our Wiki page, and we have some serious edits needed, and you offered to help us. Our greater University of Southern Maine community has expressed great concern (from current students, to alumni, to faculty and administrators, to community supporters) that our Wiki page does not at all reflect the university as it is in 2019, and it's missing information/facts about our programs, campuses etc. in addition to needing to be updated with current information. And the current page's History section is not only out of date, but it's highly unbalanced. So our team has taken time to go through and edit (with cited sources) much of what’s occurred since the period in 2014 when yes, the university did go through budget crises and staff/faculty layoffs. We’re not asking for that to be removed from the page, but we do request that it be set in context as past history and edited to not take up three pages of content (when other universities with much graver controversies such as Michigan state have only a few paragraphs on their pages). We understand Wiki is not a PR page, so we’ve kept it to facts that anyone can look up. And information that people researching the university would want to know about it. So if you can, please review this document, and if it meets with your approval, please add the text from this document to edit the University of Southern Maine's Wiki page -- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dA5IL0VP5wzTsgjfHfSbS9Vc6doVUVQCEgvVgcuonj4/edit?usp=sharing -- we’d greatly appreciate it. Please let me know any timeline for getting the changes made, and please contact me (or Alan Bennett at USM with whom you communicated earlier) for anything else we can do on our end. DVPortland (talk) 19:00, 21 March 2019 (UTC) You are certainly correct that the negative material in the article is greatly overemphasized and given undue prominence. I shall deal with that in the next few days; I must apologize that i did not get to this sooner. (And I will subsequently try to update the article a little). But the reason we strongly discourage those associated with an institution to write about it, is not just that they will introduce unjustified praise, and remove justified but negative material, but they will fail to understand what shows importance or even quality from the perspective of an encyclopedia . Though you recognize that WP is not a place for PR, the suggested additions include phrases like
This is entirely jargon, with trite catch phrases that have been overused to the point of meaningless, phrases that every educational organization in the world likes to use about itself, and that nobody rational pays the least attention to. Its at least intended as straight undocumented praise; whether the actual effect of writing such material is to reflect positively on the institution is another matter. The most absurd of it is the attempt to show progress:
Dear DGG - your response, albeit perhaps a bit harsh, is actually greatly appreciated. By all means, ignore anything that smacks of PR hyperbole. Not being experienced Wiki editors, we were pulling things from newspaper articles and our own website to use at least as a jumping off point (mea culpa -- yes, our current President waxed poetic in the local newspaper - quite over the top, as noted)... I'm not being sarcastic when I say thanks for the eye-opening information about how this works! So please feel free to use any facts that appear in the document that can be updated/included or use them for your own research (some of the programs on the current Wiki page, are no longer even programs we offer at USM, and some things that really should be included or listed more prominently, aren't on there right now). Provable, legit progress has been made at USM, and we hope the page can reflect that. Also, is the history of how someone was hired, really that important to include? That section just seems a bit off kilter and the bulk of the history section, seems like the opposite of PR hyperbole, it looks like someone with a negative agenda had at the site, which we hope could be balanced by accurate current information. Many thanks for your assistance here! — Preceding unsigned comment added by DVPortland (talk • contribs) 20:15, 27 March 2019 (UTC) Please comment on Talk:Slavery[edit]The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Slavery. Legobot (talk) 04:23, 22 March 2019 (UTC) Women in Red April Events[edit]
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 20:33, 22 March 2019 (UTC) via MassMessaging Hi DGG, could you take a quick look at this guy and tell me if you think he might meet WP:NPROF? I'm not sure he does, but I'm the first to admit I'm
Speedy deletion declined: Daisy Tanwani[edit]Hello DGG. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Daisy Tanwani, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: per WP:CSD, I'm assuming that Ritchie333 also checked (and decided against) whether other criteria apply when he declined the G11. Thank you. SoWhy 11:14, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: GiveBack GiveAway[edit]Hello DGG. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of GiveBack GiveAway, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: currently at AFD with ATD suggestions, so clearly not uncontroversial enough for speedy deletion. Thank you. SoWhy 11:15, 25 March 2019 (UTC) Speedy deletion declined: Astral Airways[edit]Hello DGG. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Astral Airways, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: as the parent company of AirSWIFT and subsidiary of Ayala Corporation, significance is indicated (at the very least, it can be merged to either article per WP:ATD). Thank you. SoWhy 11:21, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
A kitten for you![edit]Thank you for reviewing my page (Speaker of the Ethiopian House of Peoples Representatives). DropTheDove (talk) 21:29, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
ESMO Corporation[edit]The creator has denied being paid to write the article ([4], [5]) but I found off-wiki evidence that shows they are employed by this company and another that they have created a draft for. To avoid running afoul of WP:OUTING, could I email you a link? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:36, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Nadiem Makarim[edit]
Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion[edit]There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. The thread is Abhijeet Safai-- advocacy & COI. Thank you. ∯WBGconverse 15:40, 27 March 2019 (UTC) UNESCO edit-a-thon articles[edit]Hi, I kindly request you to consider taking a look at this list of articles created during an edit-a-thon at UNESCO on International Women's Day, earlier this month. List is at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Women_in_Red#The_articles. KCVelaga (talk) 00:14, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion[edit]There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. The thread is Abhijeet Safai-- advocacy & COI. Thank you. ∯WBGconverse 15:40, 27 March 2019 (UTC) UNESCO edit-a-thon articles[edit]Hi, I kindly request you to consider taking a look at this list of articles created during an edit-a-thon at UNESCO on International Women's Day, earlier this month. List is at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Women_in_Red#The_articles. KCVelaga (talk) 00:14, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
just so you know[edit]This was far from optimal, but it wasn't an ad. The machine is historically important, but largely superseded by postwar technological advances; I'm not sure anyone's manufacturing them any more, much less selling them. DS (talk) 15:07, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
Copyright violation of a problematic article[edit]No idea what you were thinking when you created Jean-Claude Jitrois (April Fool's?), but not only did you write a totally unattributed translation of a French Wikipedia article, which is not allowed and a copyright violation; but you also decided to copy an article with multiple tags indicating that it was considered a problematic article on frwiki. Why would you knowingly add an article that reads like an ad to enwiki? The sources often don't support the statements (e.g. "Jean-Claude Jitrois becomes then Jitrois : The stretch leather" is sourced to [6], where the only mention of Jitrois is "Le Combat Leggings de Jean-Claude Jitrois, moulant mais pas trop, entre rock et biker avec ses jeux de Zip asymétriques." Ending the article with the "sentence" " E [11]. " also shows a lot of care. If it hadn't been a copyvio, I would have moved it to draftspace. As it stood, I just deleted it. Fram (talk) 08:05, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
So basically it is a complicated edit conflict. You didn't check the full history either, or you would have seen there was a draft already. (You would of course have seen it had you moved the article to draft) I intend to make the corrections on the draft, and move it back. You can then choose between AfD or an apology to me. DGG ( talk ) 17:34, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
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