User talk:Anthony Appleyard/2005

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Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
Multi-Licensing Guide
Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Area 51

Hi. Your edits to Area 51 seem to have zapped a bunch of content [1]. I guess you're doing some kind of a reorganisation, so I don't want to tread on that by reverting you. -- John Fader (talk | contribs) 19:02, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Mokele mbembe

Hi Anthony. Just a heads up: a factoid you contributed to Mokele mbembe has been moved out of the article pending verification — see Talk:Mokele mbembe. Kind regards, — mark ✎ 09:03, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Lod

Could you please see my question on Talk:Lod about your recent edit to Lod? -- Jmabel | Talk 00:04, May 17, 2005 (UTC)

"DAM, Da Arabic MCs" in Lod: I didn't add them to the article, and I don't know enough about them to write an article, but that one citation seems sufficient to me. Do you think not? -- Jmabel | Talk 05:45, May 17, 2005 (UTC)

Roman clubs

Anthony, is the Roman clubs your own work, or is it copied from somewhere? It reads like it was cut from the middle of something -- there is no context, and the use of "we" is odd. Rick K 07:38, May 29, 2005 (UTC)

Ah. Thanks for responding. I did slap a cleanup-tone header on it. Rick K 21:09, May 29, 2005 (UTC)

tyagaraja

Did ye translate the lines in the article on Athreya. It was good. I've also written an article on Pingali Nagendra Rao. Feel free to add to it. bye User talk:Tyagaraja

History of the Arabic alphabet

I reverted your making this a redirect page... if you really must you can do a VfD and request that it becomes a redirect page... but, if you read fr:Histoire de l'alphabet arabe you will see that there is plenty of material for it... and I am attempting to translate some of it (but it is above my level). The article definitely has merit even if it takes a while to become as well done as the French article. I am actually writing on the Fr talk page of User:Vincent Ramos because he helped to supply the images for the French article and hopefully he will help to translate it (or at least help me recognize the image fonts so I can put them on EN. I know for now it's just a insignificant stub... but it does have purpose. gren 22:44, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Miracidium

Thanks for changing miracidium; I couldn't believe that there was no page for this, given the prevalence of schistosomiasis, so I wrote it and just got back to it today after checking everything. I had written it after reading peer review work on schisto on EntrezPubMed, and I then later, after more reading, understood that miracidium applied to all Trematoda and not just schisto miracidium. Having a gap in the database like miracidium, which relates to schistosomiasis, didn't seem to me to be very good for the Wikipedia, so I just wrote it. Thanks for correcting the error. I wish I knew more about medicine and biology so I could expand the article myself. Cheers.--McDogm 01:17, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Arabic inscriptions

Thanks for an excellent piece of work. - Mustafaa 21:12, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Rugby naming

Regarding your changes to the naming part on the Rugby article. A few months back I took out a load of history books about Rugby from the library, and there seems to be little agreement between them about the origins of the name. The Drochebrig explanation seems to be as common as the Hrocburgh one. I dont know whether you've been in the town centre recently, but there is a plaque about the history of Rugby, which says the name is derived from Drochbrig. So basically I think we should present each theory as being theories rather than presuming that one is correct, as it appears that neither is universally accepted. G-Man 19:40, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Competition is needed at User:Tparker393/Team Game 1

Game of chess? Nathan256 29 June 2005 18:24 (UTC)

Vigilante

Would you be able to add a source or at least give a little more detail on the "Examples of wrong people attacked by vigilantes"? Without even a year or an identified part of the world it is really hard to verify it. Cheers! -PullUpYourSocks 4 July 2005 21:31 (UTC)

Aldehyde

Anthony,

Do you have sources for your derivation of the word? I teach organic chemistry, but I have never come across such a derivation, I'm interested to find out. Thanks, Walkerma 02:59, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Wildfire

I am somewhat puzzled by your edit on Wildfire (disambiguation) that reads: "The word wildfire originally meant a medieval substance somewhat like napalm." What was that substance? In what respect was it "somewhat like napalm"? Shouldn't we have an article on that substance, then? Rl 08:44, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer. I commented the line out for now. It is too interesting a claim to let it go unsourced. Rl 09:29, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Your images

I was wondering, what program do you use to create your wonderful images, such as Image:Aps protei ida71 00.jpg? Blender, maybe? --ZeroOne 10:45, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Buck Rogers merge with XXVC

I feel that XXVC should have its own page, as it was a long article that could have been split up on its own. XXVC is largely different than all other Buck Rogers settings and merchandise, so it really seems out of place on the main Buck page. I appreciate the chronological order of the new Buck page, and I think that the link to XXVC could be places in an appropriate place on the timeline. -KertDawg 2005-08-18

Frog (disambiguation)

Wikipedia is not a dictionary, and this is not magically invalidated for diambiguation pages. Your recent FROGS entry, in its present state, is little more than a dictionary definition. If you feel this subject is important, then either (a) create a stub for it, then link to the article from the disambiguation page (b) incorporate it into a relevent article, such as rebreather - you can then link to this on the disambiguation page in the manner I had before you reverted the article.

I STRONGLY urge you to read Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages). Furthermore, you may want to consider providing edit summaries that provide a rationale for changes you make, instead of reverting with no explanation.

(Note: someone else has since reverted Frog (disambiguation) to my version) —jiy (talk) 10:29, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

Dredge

You're absolutely right that I wiped out your changes, as I see from looking at the history more closely, and I wanted to apologize for being so careless and stomping over your work. Hopefully we can get this straightened out without much difficulty. siafu 18:46, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Existence

You can not possibly know that no raygun exists. Are you privy to every secret experiment every government has done? Even if you are why should anyone believe you? Please find relevant sources and quote or reference what they say: "So and so says such and such" Please see featured articles for examples for how to do it right. If all that is too much trouble, then just don't contribute debatable things; like "there is NO X". WAS 4.250 19:21, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Your response was better than I could have imagined. Please seek me out if you have any future problems. Your contributions are wonderful. WAS 4.250 22:54, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Anu (disambiguation)

I was going to suggest you have a look at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages), but I see that someone else has already made that suggestion. — Pekinensis 18:47, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Melbourne High School Unicorn

Hi, you uploaded a cleaned-up GIF version of Image:Unicorn.jpg. However, at the same time, I completed my [exhausting] cleanup work on that same picture, and uploaded it as Image:Melbourne High Unicorn.png. Would it be OK if I IFD'd the one you uploaded and used mine instead? Mysid (talk) 10:31, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Article size

131.211.210.12 07:32, 29 September 2005 (UTC): from the Help desk: If a page is considered too long, hit the edit link and it will tell you the length in kB directly above the editing frame. You could copy the text and put it into Notepad, then save it and check the size. Otherwise, it's probably not too long. also see wikipedia:article size for more details. --Ballchef 07:03, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Lupin's navigational popup script also lists the size of an article when you hover over a link. See WP:TOOLS#Navigation_popups. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:25, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Hexagram

I undid your move of hexagram. This because the polygon meaning of this word is by far the most used. And by the way, when you create disambiguation pages, the most important thing is to fix the links, so that they point at the correct place after the move. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 22:58, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Goshawk

I undid your move of Goshawk. This because the bird meaning of this word is by far the most important, and the source of the other two. When you create a disambiguation page, the most important thing is to fix the links, so that they point at the correct place after the move; in this case your move created many unfixed double redirects.

I've set up Goshawk (disambiguation) which achieves what I think you intended, and a {{otheruses}} link from Goshawk jimfbleak 20:22, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Species

Please note that all bird species lists are in taxonomic order, to show relationships, not alphabetical - the only exceptions are the alternative lists for the massive parrot and hummingbird families where an additional alpha list makes species easier to find. thanks, jimfbleak 08:10, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Ginger Snell

Your edit summary at Eye, Peterborough read: "I can't see why not put in a short note about the diving school." However, my edit did leave a short note about the diving school - there was one, it was based at the brickpit, and it isn't there any more. Adding the name (presumably his nickname, as per your comments at Talk:Frogman) of the person who used to run it in the early 1970s is not particularly helpful, especially when this would appear to have been done in order to back up your argument at the abovementioned talk page. Regards, CLW 08:12, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Image:IDA71 for stub.jpg

I see that you uploaded this image, your own creation. However you have not specified the license. (The CC license on your user page specifies text contributions, not images.) If you wish to release it as free content, please indicate this on the image page by tagging it with, for example {{GFDL}} or {{cc-by-sa-2.5}}. Thanks! --Tabor 00:09, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Buck Rogers

Anthony, can you document the Buck Rogers Westerns? I would certainly be open to undeleting the page, but I don't find anything at imdb other than the science fiction movies and one other character named Buck Rogers but it isn't a Western. User:Zoe|^(talk) 07:53, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

KKK

From Wikipedia:Disambiguation: Disambiguation serves a single purpose: to let the reader choose among different pages that closely relate to various meanings of a particular term. ...The considerations of [{WP:NOT|what Wikipedia is not]] are not magically invalidated for disambiguation pages.

From Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not: Articles about companies and products are fine if they are written in an objective and unbiased style. Furthermore, all article topics must be third-party verifiable, so articles about very small "garage" companies are not likely to be acceptable.

In my opinion, there is no need to disambiguate an obscure Scottish falconry supplier from the other uses of KKK. If there were a separate article about KKK Scotland, then the disambiguation might make some sense. I don't see the need for that separate article either, unless there's a lot of verifiable info about KKK Scotland that isn't apparent to Google. (The other company in the list, the German KK&K, is a 100 year old manufacturer with over 80M euros market cap.) --Dystopos 15:02, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Floods in the Netherlands

Hi Anthony. I'm not sure what is meant by "...but both in the Bay of Biscay at south west of the United Kingdom were depressions." and I don't want to reword this in case I change what you meant - should the "at" be "and to the" (and perhaps insert "there" after "Kingdom")? Thanks, CLW 17:34, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Mk 37 Mod 0 Underwater Assault Rifle

Hi. I saw your article on the Mk 37 Mod 0 Underwater Assault Rifle by way of Category:Computer and video game weapons. I was just wondering what computer and/or video game this weapon appears in. ~ Hibana 01:17, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Missing image tag

Dear Anthony,

thank you for contributing Image:Workman pickaxehandle 01.jpg to Wikipedia. I would like to notify you that you have forgotten to mark it with an appropriate copyright tag. You already have experience with uploading images, so I don't think you need any more advice.

Thank you. Regards, Mike Rosoft 17:38, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Image:Jetpack with wings.jpg

Hi, you've created and uploaded this pic which I like but you forgot to tag a licence, e.g. {{pd}}. For further information please check Wikipedia:Image copyright tags. I would like to upload it towards Wikimedia Commons and these guys are very quick deleting it if there's no proper information... Well, thanks in advance and BFN, -- Scriberius 03:00, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Turan

Some unknown user is vandalizing the article Turan, totally messing up the article with non-verified and wrong information, mostly Pan-Turkist propaganda ("Sumerian was a Turkish dielect", etc). I saw your comment in the article Sumerian language. Maybe you know how to deal with vandals. -213.39.200.218 23:05, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Russian Combat Frogmen

Hi Anthony! So, as I wrote you, information about Russian "frogmen" had many mistakes. Could you write me at "point(at)internet(dot)lv"? If this e-mail does not work, plese, note it here! Alex North, 13:56, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Cyrillic alphabet

| А || а à| Б || б á| В || в â| Г || г ã| Д || д ä| Е || е å| Ё || ё | Ж || ж | З || з ç | И || и è| Й || й | К || к | Л || л ë| М || м ì| Н || н í| О || о î| П || п ï| Р || р ð | С || с ñ| Т || т ò| У || у | Ф || ф | Х || х | Ц || ц ö| Ч || ч ÷| Ш || ш | Щ || щ | Ъ || ъ | Ы || ы û| Ь || ь ü| Э || э | Ю || ю | Я || я ÿ

Source ref for Gas chamber

Hi. I've added a source reference for the diesel engine. I'm not saying that petrol engines were never used, its just that I can only remember reading references to diesel. If you have a source, go ahead and add 'petrol or' before the word 'diesel' in the article. Best Regards, --Squiddy 10:09, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Character set issues in Russian commando frogmen

The Cyrillic text in your recent additions to Russian commando frogmen is unfortunately unreadable in most browsers due to character set issues -- for example, one Cyrillic text reads as "Âîäîëàç-ðàçâåä÷èê" -- see the article mojibake for a description of what has probably happened. Can you please cut and paste the correct text in using a Unicode-friendly browser such as Firefox? -- Karada 12:08, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

OK, as far as I can tell, the new text is in Windows-1251 encoding (http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/sbcs/1251.mspx), but the high-bit bytes appear to have been interpreted as ISO 8859-1, then converted to Unicode. However, the previous Cyrillic text is still correctly encoded as Unicode. -- Karada 12:16, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

I am slowly working through the job by copying-and-pasting Cyrrilic letters one at a time from a copy of the Cyrillic alphabet that I found on page Cyrillic. Anthony Appleyard 12:25, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi Anthony; I wrote a quick program that (I hope) does the job correctly, and I've pasted the translated result in -- I hope this works OK. -- Karada 12:34, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

СПАСИБО

What language is that program in? Any chance of you sending me the program? Thanks. Anthony Appleyard 13:05, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Sure: it's in Python, here it is: I just cut-and-pasted the input into the program source (reduced to example text here for conciseness). Existing Cyrillic characters are preserved, but mojibake gets fixed, albeit in a crude way. Note that it will munge any character in the codepoint range 128 - 255 into Cyrillic, so since accented Latin characters may be munged, you will need to review the output: I could modify the program to spot accented Latin letters within Latin words, if it was ever needed as a common tool, but couldn't be bothered for this one-off program since I could see by inspection that there weren't any such characters in the first place. -- Karada 13:47, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
data = u"""
SpN ''PDSS'' (Противо-Диверсионные Силы и Средства, Protivo-Diversionnyye Sily i Sredstva = Anti-diversionary forces and means) are units of a special purpose anti-sabotage divers' units, appeared in the Soviet Navy in the end of 1960s to counter possible attacks of [[frogmen]]. They were formerly known as:-
* OB PDSS, (î) ÑïÍ ÏÄÑÑ, /îòðÿäû/ Ñïåöèàëüíîãî íàçíà÷åíèÿ ïî áîðüáå ñ ïîäâîäíûìè äèâåðñèîííûìè ñèëàìè è ñðåäñòâàìè, /otrjady/ Spetsial'nogo naznachenija po bor'be s podvodnymi diversionnymi silami i sredstvami.
* ÎÁ ÏÄÑÑ, Îòðÿäû ïî áîðüáå ñ ïîäâîäíûìè äèâåðñèîííûìè ñèëàìè è ñðåäñòâàìè, Orrjady po bor'be s podvodnymi diversionnymi silami i sredstvami.
"""

import string

def convert(ch):
    if ord(ch) >= 127 and ord(ch) <= 255:
        ch = chr(ord(ch)).decode("windows-1251")
    return ch

data = string.join([convert(ch) for ch in data], "")

open("frogmen.txt";;, "w").write(data.encode("utf-8"))