User talk:Animum/Archives/2007/October
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Deeceevoice
I don't understand your edits to this user's page? What's so bad about savedarfur.org? It's not like it's excessive or disruptive. I don't think it meets WP:UP#NOT at all. Can you explain your reasons for doing this? futurebird 16:33, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- It falls under WP:UP#NOT since it was lengthy discussion pertaining to non-wikipedia related activities (Jena Six, etc). —[[Animum | talk]] 16:35, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- It seems another user revered it before I had the chance. I doesn't look there there is much support for your interpretation of WP:UP#NOT. Lengthy discussion? More like a list of links. futurebird 16:47, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- This is completely in the category of "if you don't like it, don't read her user page." --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 16:59, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- It seems another user revered it before I had the chance. I doesn't look there there is much support for your interpretation of WP:UP#NOT. Lengthy discussion? More like a list of links. futurebird 16:47, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- Don't break the 3 revert rule, Animum. futurebird 17:01, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- You could always MfD it Animum? I can fully understand your point that it is being used as a soap box. It's basically an advertisement for some charities that Deeceevoice likes. Ryan Postlethwaite 17:14, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- Don't break the 3 revert rule, Animum. futurebird 17:01, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Before you do something as extreme as editing someone's user page (let alone nominating it for deletion) you really need to try talking to them. If you don't like what someone has on their user page, talk first. When a member of the arbcomm uses rollback on your edit, you really should stop and think about what you are doing. Talking to another editor should always be the first option if you find content on their user page objectionable. Guettarda 04:05, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'm a little disturbed to discover that Animum is an admin. futurebird 04:50, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Eh. We've admins who have done a lot worse things. Luckily, this one was caught quickly, and corrected; I'll assume in good faith that something like this will not happen again. There's a time and a place for boldness; this was honestly mistaken for one of those times. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 05:07, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'm a little confused, given this. Animum could have deleted it unilaterally, and the action would have been perfectly legitimate - "Any administrator may delete any offensive material from her user page at any time". Daniel 09:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Bull. "This" doesn't mean it's open season on my user page. No way this made any sense. No way it was in any way appropriate. deeceevoice 10:17, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Listen, I've never even heard of nominating a user page for deletion. Animum tried that after repeatedly removing removing the links. It's one of the most absurd stunts I've ever seen on the wikipedia. That's not what nominations for deletion are for. These actions came out of the blue, without any discussion. In short, I don't see how these actions can be described as anything other than rude, overly, aggressive and abusive none of which would be remarkable on the wikipedia ... if this user was not an admin. But, the user is an admin. futurebird 11:51, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Excuse me, the userpage is against WP:USER! You can't link to charity funds from your userpage. We aren't myspace. Userpage MfD happens all the time and I personally think this is a prime candidate. aminim should maybe have asked you to remove it rather than remove it himself, however, he is in effect correct in his actions. Ryan Postlethwaite 11:57, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'm a little confused, given this. Animum could have deleted it unilaterally, and the action would have been perfectly legitimate - "Any administrator may delete any offensive material from her user page at any time". Daniel 09:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Eh. We've admins who have done a lot worse things. Luckily, this one was caught quickly, and corrected; I'll assume in good faith that something like this will not happen again. There's a time and a place for boldness; this was honestly mistaken for one of those times. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 05:07, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'm a little disturbed to discover that Animum is an admin. futurebird 04:50, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
So, are you saying that nominating a user's page for deletion is a good idea when they have material on that page that you tried to remove twice and other users (not the user in question) objected to you removing? The rules are always subject to interpretation. I suppose I object so strongly because I have things on my own user-page that could easily be removed for the same reasons. It's flimsey. futurebird 12:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- I removed the heading section twice before I read the rest of the page, which is why I MfD'ed it after removing the top section; upon reading it, I thought the page served no intention other than to recruit for charities, rant about a block, and attack an editor with whom Deeceevoice was in conflict with. —[[Animum | talk]] 20:54, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Your feelings about the rant seem to be personal. There is no reason to try to delete a user's page over personal feelings. Honestly, it's not what I expect from admins. I'm saying that, not to be mean to you, but to let you know that I was shocked and hurt to see an admin acting in the way you did. futurebird 00:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Out of respect for Jpgordon and Raul654 (see MfD), I will consider this issue dropped if everyone else is willing to (and even if not everyone else is willing to, I'll still abstain from commentary). —[[Animum | talk]] 01:12, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Your feelings about the rant seem to be personal. There is no reason to try to delete a user's page over personal feelings. Honestly, it's not what I expect from admins. I'm saying that, not to be mean to you, but to let you know that I was shocked and hurt to see an admin acting in the way you did. futurebird 00:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! :D
Thanks Animum/Archives/2007/October | |
I would like to thank you for your participation in my successful RfA, which passed with a tally of (44/10/5)[1]. Whether you supported, opposed or were neutral in my RfA, I appreciate your participation and I hope that we can continue to work together to build a stronger and better Wikipedia. | |
Regards, nattang 04:15, 3 October 2007 (UTC) |
Thankee
Your friend left drool all over my talkpage, but I forgive you both. :) ~ Riana ⁂ 12:01, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
"El Wanabí" article deleted
Hey, hope you're doing good. Some time ago you deleted a page about the song "El Wanabí" (from Puerto Rican rock group Fiel a la Vega) under the basis that it wasn't significant. However, this is very subjective considering that the song is indeed still very famous and popular in Puerto Rico and within the Latin communities in the United States. Taking in consideration the criteria roughly established in the Notability page, "El Wanabí" is notable. As of today, the song is easily recognizable by most people, it's been covered and used in several TV commercials, the band itself has released several versions of the songs, and other artists have also covered it. Just wanted to say that. I really don't know if there would still be an archive of the page somewhere. Take care. Thief12 15:10, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
The new warnings...
I believe you change the script recently, User:Voice of All/Adminwarnings/monobook.js, and I don't think it is IE compatible (Note: I use FireFox and IE, bue I mainly use IE for fighting vandalism for technical reasons). Can you change the script a little to make it IE compatible? PrestonH 18:28, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- I've undone your edit. I completely lost the admin warning tab after your change. I'm not sure why that happened, though. Nishkid64 (talk) 20:17, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm, it was just a rearranging of the way text should be placed inside the editform, so I don't see how that could have messed up the script's overall functionality; however, I'm not an elite JavaScript h4x0r, so I won't audaciously argue. —[[Animum | talk]] 00:43, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Smile
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Congratulations
Here you go: User:Dillio411/hidden/bigbox/animum User:Dillio411/hidden/userbox/animum --Dillio411 01:21, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Polar bear semi-protection
Hello Animum, thanks for semi-protecting Polar bear. Is there an expiry date set for this semi-protection? Where can I find it?--Yannick 04:19, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, you can look here. *Cremepuff222* 13:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
*Freaked out*
Just to let you know Animum, your well made "Happy Editing" sign on your userpage freaks me out that you retired every single time I visit your page. (Please take this as a compliment to your knowledge in templates). --Hirohisat 紅葉 02:15, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- Don't worry ... Animum has a loooooong way to go before he hits retirement age. :) Newyorkbrad 02:25, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- Unlike you, old man. ( Just joking. ) —[[Animum | talk]] 22:39, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- Unless you, Newyorkbrad, commander of the universe, let him age early :]. --(Review Me) R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 03:35, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'm just glad he changed the color scheme of the template on the top of this page. *Cremepuff222* 00:52, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- What is this? The Spanish Inquisition? —[[Animum | talk]] 01:36, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'm just glad he changed the color scheme of the template on the top of this page. *Cremepuff222* 00:52, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
My recent RfA
Thank you for supporting my RfA, which unfortunately didn't succeed. The majority of the opposes stated that I needed more experience in the main namespace and Wikipedia namespace, so that is what I will do. I will go for another RfA in two month's time and I hope you will be able to support me then as well. If you have any other comments for me or wish to be notified when I go for another RfA, please leave them on my talk page. If you wish to nominate me for my next RfA, please wait until it has been two months. Thanks again for participating in my RfA! -- Cobi(t|c|b|cn) 01:38, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Happy Editing
This Wikipedian would like to congratulate you on your 9500th edit. Happy Editing! The UserboxerComplain/ubx 21:21, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Vandalized by Friends of Nathan Summers
My userpage was vandalized by {User:Vitusbrothers} who have stolen my Avatar which is an original piece of artwork that I own copyright for. The avatar was used to create a video that was posted on Utube and then linked to Nathan Summers site "Rocky Radio" by Summers, and then posted on my userpage without my permission. I am attempting to contact Utube but I am requesting that both parties be banned from Wikipedia. This is a one sided attack by vandals who's only reason to sign up for wiki is to harrass me.--Amadscientist 22:18, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
- Since this is primarily an off-site matter, I'm going to elect to leave it up to YouTube; linkspamming is bad, but it seems your primary concern is the avatar. —[[Animum | talk]] 23:50, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
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This user has copied you userpage, and is stating that he uses your signature, i left a message on his talk page due to the fact that he stated he was an admin when he was not, he rm the userbox without conflict. Thought you should know about this user. Tiptoety 00:54, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Signature
Hey Animum, could you give me a hand with my signature? I want it to look like this...
...but when I try to set it in "My preferences" it comes up as an invalid HTML code. I honestly aam not very good with HTML. HarrisonB —Preceding comment was added at 01:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
- Use the following code and you should be fine:
<font face="Gill Sans MT">[[User_talk: HarrisonB|HarrisonB]]</font> - <small>[[Special:Contributions/HarrisonB|Conributions]]</small>
—[[Animum | talk]] 01:27, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, thankyou so much! As I said before, I am not good at HTML so thankyou! HarrisonB - Conributions 01:31, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks
For the revert. I've also blocked that IP for a week for harassment. For some reason, there's a person who uses different IPs to harass a user called Chris Chittleborough. Acalamari 17:28, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think it would: about three or four IPs are used to vandalize, and blocking the range may shut out good editors. Acalamari 17:40, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks
Thank you for the usertalkpage revert. It was very much appreciated. AngelOfSadness talk 17:52, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
User talk:Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116hydrachloroflourad.
It's ok, no need to panic I only created the account to see how quickly those sorts of accounts are dealt with for a future essay, if possible could you delete the account? Zanusi 18:16, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'm afraid it's impossible to delete accounts, but I can delete the user and user talk pages. —[[Animum | talk]] 18:17, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- Close enough. Best regards, Zanusi 19:18, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Script
I was trying to make a script (like the one here just to test edit my userpage. Why didn't my script work? It is located here. Thanks! UncleGiggo 15:25, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
PS: If you are an admin go ahead and edit my monobooks yourself. Please respond on my talkpage.
- I tried. I clicked edit on my userpage and no new button was there. Any suggestions? UncleGiggo 15:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
- Yes. Would the button appear where my TW stuff is? Maybe put the code in your book so you can see whats happening. UncleGiggo 15:55, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
- Its driving me nuts! UncleGiggo 16:09, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
- Mmm yes, you probably have too many tabs. —[[Animum | talk]] 16:33, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
- Its driving me nuts! UncleGiggo 16:09, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
- Yes. Would the button appear where my TW stuff is? Maybe put the code in your book so you can see whats happening. UncleGiggo 15:55, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Gasp
animum slaps ClueBot
How dare you hurt ClueBot!!!! :) UncleGiggo 16:28, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
- :-0 You're in that channel!? I just now noticed that. :-P —[[Animum | talk]] 16:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
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Slow down damn you
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That's now five times in a row you and your speedy admin reverts have beaten me to a revert. Slow down and let the rest of us have some ;) Gscshoyru 00:08, 22 October 2007 (UTC) |
- Hehe, if you think I'm fast, take a look elsewhere. —[[Animum | talk]] 00:09, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, I know he's fast. But he's a cyborg so it doesn't count. You're a regular human, I think. Gscshoyru 00:10, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- Whatever you say… —[[Animum | talk]] 00:11, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- No, you misunderstand. He's a cyborg in real life. Sitting there, plugged in to the internet, he can revert faster because he is the computer. How else can you explain his speed? Nice monobook, by the way... I need to take a look at some of the useful scripts out there besides twinkle, eventually... Gscshoyru 00:15, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- There are useful scripts besides twinkle? ;-) Well hopefully these two cyborgs I know don't conspire to revert all vandalism. :-O (Just thinking of it gives me chills) —[[Animum | talk]] 00:19, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- No, you misunderstand. He's a cyborg in real life. Sitting there, plugged in to the internet, he can revert faster because he is the computer. How else can you explain his speed? Nice monobook, by the way... I need to take a look at some of the useful scripts out there besides twinkle, eventually... Gscshoyru 00:15, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- Whatever you say… —[[Animum | talk]] 00:11, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, I know he's fast. But he's a cyborg so it doesn't count. You're a regular human, I think. Gscshoyru 00:10, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
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- Why thank you for informing me. :-P —[[Animum | talk]] 00:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
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Hello!
Hi! After randomly clicking on various user pages, i eventually made it to yours. So,hi. how do you put pictures on your user page? I've been trying to do that for like ever! Oh, and by the way, I LOVE how your name is in different colors. Yay, difference!Ichliebezuko 16:02, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- Hey there, Ichliebezuko. You seem interested in userpage design, so I recommend checking out Wikipedia:WikiProject User Page Help and Wikipedia:User Page Design Center. That should answer most of your questions. *Cremepuff222* 16:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks...
For the revert. What the hell did I do to that guy?? - Rjd0060 23:44, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- No problem. :-) I honestly have no idea. —Animum (tc) 23:48, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- Must have been something. I was the only person. I think you reverted the redirect, but somebody else reverted this. Wierdo's. - Rjd0060 23:50, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- No worries now: DS blocked him. —Animum (tc) 23:51, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- Must have been something. I was the only person. I think you reverted the redirect, but somebody else reverted this. Wierdo's. - Rjd0060 23:50, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
He vandalised again. You may want to block them. - Shudde talk 00:19, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
A Reply to my warning
It was not vandalism, though I suppose its understandable that some might take it that way. If you will read over the article, you can clearly see the opinionation inside it, or at least I could. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.117.27.21 (talk) 01:06, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Your bot
Here I made a suggestion to that user since he was the one to bring it up on said WikiProject . That idea was nagging in the back of my mind for a while since it seems to me like a good idea. So what do say, can it? « FMF » 03:32, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Indefinite anon block
20:16, October 23, 2007 Animum (Talk | contribs | block) blocked "68.116.201.53 (Talk)" (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite (vandalism) (Unblock)
Per wikis blocking policy, only open proxys may be indefinitely blocked. Also, this is a first block, if anything a 3 hour anonblock would more than suffice. Is there a specific reason you made the anonblock indefinite? -- Avi 02:18, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, and it was a reason of which I did not have control. I was testing DerHexer's admin.js for a while per his request, which caused the indefinite blocking of the IP. I'll converse with him over it the next time he comes onto IRC. Regards, —Animum (etc.) 00:16, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Ha!
You're in grade eight? Well, I'm in grade nine! So ha! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maser Fletcher (talk • contribs) 23:49, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- Heh, be that as it may... (even if I am not the age specified in the thread) —Animum (etc.) 00:20, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- You and Anonymous Dissident, of course! IP editor for a long time. Started as a vandal (which Persian Poet Gal actually hardblocked for two days a month ago), began to edit articles related to Family Guy, and finally decided to register an account. Maser Fletcher 03:36, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- And I'm pretty sure you're thirteen. Maser Fletcher 03:38, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- What! It's not like I'm dealing with a thirteen year-old administrator who's stereotypically nerdy (top of his class, massive amounts of time on Wikipedia, etc.) or something... oh, wait. ;) Maser Fletcher 03:42, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
The last judgement
Dear Aninum,
When reverting the move of The Last Judgement (Bosch) to The Last Judgment (Bosch) [1], you accidently moved it to The Last Judegment (Bosch) (e and g switched). Perhaps you can correct the error? I cannot do it myself, as The Last Judgement (Bosch) has two edits in its history [2]. Cheers, --Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 13:44, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Done —Animum (etc.) 00:11, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you
For reverting vandalism to my user page. --John 23:02, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Flash Memory
The IP you blocked is back again making edits to this article I have placed a warning here . BigDunc 20:19, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
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My (KWSN's) RFA
Thank you for supporting my recent (and successful!) RfA. It passed at at 55/17/6. Kwsn (Ni!) 01:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Heh
[3]. Acalamari 19:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- Uh, erm ... yes. Well, this is awkward. (I don't really, btw. :-)) —Animum (etc.) 23:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)