User talk:Black Kite
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Palestine-Israel articles 5 arbitration case opened
[edit]You offered a statement in an arbitration enforcement referral. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel articles 5. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel articles 5/Evidence. Please add your evidence by 23:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC), which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel articles 5/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Party Guide/Introduction. For the Arbitration Committee, SilverLocust 💬 06:14, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
Request for Administrator Review
[edit]Hello, I kindly request administrative review of the ongoing content dispute on the Shahi Jama Masjid (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) article. This matter is particularly sensitive due to current incidents (2024 Sambhal violence) surrounding the site, Which caused 5/6 deaths.
The user Upd Edit (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has made edits asserting that the mosque was built over a Hindu temple, citing certain historical books (not freely accessible) and Indian media sources. However, the reliability of these sources are questionable. Additionally the issue is further complicated by the following factors:
- Hindu petitioners lack historical evidence to substantiate their claims and so they have demanded a 'survey' of the mosque.[1] This suggests that the citations provided by the user is not trustworthy.
- The applicability of the Ancient Monuments Protection Act, 1904 and Places of Worship Act, 1991, which prohibits altering the character of places of worship.
- The potential risk of misleading readers by including speculative pre-Islamic claims without proper verifiability.
Moreover, the user Upd Edit (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) appears to be acting intentionally disruptive, as their contributions are solely focused on this article. Despite multiple reverts by other editors, they continue to persist, causing significant disruption.
1. Moved page to wrong title
2. reverted
3. reverted
4. reverted
5. reverted …
While attempting to preserve the article’s integrity, I inadvertently breached the WP:3RR rule.
It should also be noted that Upd Edit (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) reverted edits of 4 individual users more than 5 times prior to this.
Another user, Kautilya3 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), has also been involved in the dispute. But, I have concerns about their neutrality due to the content on their userpage indicating their religious affiliation. This raises questions about potential bias in their approach. - (Personal opinion)
Given the complexity and sensitivity of this matter, I believe administrative oversight is necessary to ensure neutrality and adherence to Wikipedia's policies.
Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to your insights. - Cerium4B • Talk? • 15:34, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- Till a day ago, your user page claimed your name to be "Abrar", a Muslim name. Let's say that it would have been bigoted of me to claim that you are biased because you are ...
- All the books that I cited are available online and at Libgen / IA. If you feel that my sources are unreliable (they are not), why not discuss at the talk page despite multiple requests (1, 2, 3, and 4)?
- Of the four editors, CipherRephic had mistakenly rollbacked my edits (per their own admission) and Jannatulbaqi had no issue with my edits except the move (again, per their own admission). That leaves two: you and another editor who never showed up at the talk-page like you.
- On an aside, Indian legislation does not determine how our articles are written; Wikipedia policies do. If you believe that the claims in the article are unverifiable or not supported by reliable sources, you are free to discuss at the talk-page. Additionally, I did not make edits "asserting that the mosque was built over a Hindu temple"; I added the entire spectrum of views espoused by reliable scholars incl. those of Howard Crane who held that no temple existed at the site. Upd Edit (talk) 16:57, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
RangerRus
[edit]Can you please take a look at what I added to the ANI thread.--v/r - TP 16:55, 2 December 2024 (UTC)