Template:Did you know nominations/Sticky Vicky
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The result was: promoted by Montanabw(talk) 03:31, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
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Sticky Vicky
[edit]... that Sticky Vicky retired after performing for more than 30 years in Benidorm in a show that included pulling out several objects from her vagina?
Created by Triplecaña (talk). Self-nominated at 16:43, 19 April 2016 (UTC).
new and long enough, interesting hook cited in the article, good to go. Javier Espinoza (talk) 02:28, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
I copyedited the article for English grammar, but User:Cowlibob indicated in this post that much of the article is a direct translation of Spanish-language sources. @Javier Espinoza: are you able to verify that there is no copyvio or close paraphrasing in these sources, or is there another editor who knows Spanish who can verify this? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 18:21, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hello Yoninah, as for the hook, there is no copyvio, the article is close to copyvio, but it has the right sources for it. Javier Espinoza (talk) 19:37, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Jaespinoza: I'm sorry, I don't understand your last two statements. "The article is close to copyvio"? Does that mean it's copying the sources? What does "having the right sources" mean? Copyvio doesn't just apply to the hook, but to the whole article. If something isn't Wikipedia-worthy, it isn't DYK-worthy. Yoninah (talk) 21:10, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- There is no copyvio in the Spanish article per this It may need more rewording and copyediting in the English version I'm afraid but I've done the best I can. Thanks Cowlibob for his/her help.Triplecaña (talk) 22:18, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- I meant that i think there is no copyvio. Javier Espinoza (talk) 02:16, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
The article needs further copyediting: there are sentences that are hard to puzzle out and the narrative doesn't flow well in places. (The paragraph about the Sticky Vicky lawsuit is one that needs attention.) I would advise a request to the Guild of Copy Editors. Triplecaña, is this article a translation of a pre-existing article on the Spanish Wikipedia? BlueMoonset (talk) 16:22, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
- It is. Copyedit requested. Triplecaña (talk) 21:13, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Jaespinoza:, @BlueMoonset: Copyedit done by the Guild. Triplecaña (talk) 14:13, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
The article has been suitably copyedited, so it's time for a re-review. The hook fact about "performing for more than 30 years in Benidorm" does not appear in the source given (footnote 3), which was published in 2007, 8 years before she retired, and says she had performed for 20 years. (It is also unclear how the page creator could extrapolate the 6 million viewers from this source, which was printed 8 years before she retired.) The rest of the hook fact is sourced to a Spanish-language source and cited inline. Yoninah (talk) 21:28, 18 June 2016 (UTC
- I removed the sentence as it seems a way to high number taking into account that the places where she acted had a seating capacity of 100 tops. I extrapolated and I feel it was a mistake. She started performing at the beginning of the eighties. About the number of years, some sources say 35 years (The Mirror) but I beleive she acted for more than 30 but less than 35. There is no exact date on printed press about the actual start of her career in Benidorm. Triplecaña (talk) 13:28, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you. I removed the "seen by thousands of people" line because that was also unsourced. How about revising the hook as follows:
- ALT1: ... that as part of her magic act in Benidorm, Sticky Vicky pulled ping-pong balls, eggs, handkerchiefs, sausages, and razor blades out of her vagina? Yoninah (talk) 14:48, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
- Seems fine to me. I corrected this "tied together with a string. Clarification: the shaving blades are like this one image. Thank you for your time. Triplecaña (talk) 15:07, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
- Those are razor blades. I corrected it in the hook and source. I also took out "tied together with a string" for more punch. Yoninah (talk) 21:41, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
New reviewer needed since Yoninah has proposed the ALT1 hook. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:42, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
- Those are razor blades. I corrected it in the hook and source. I also took out "tied together with a string" for more punch. Yoninah (talk) 21:41, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
