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Old City of Gaza, Old City of Nablus
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- ... that both the Old City of Gaza (pictured) and the Old City of Nablus have been repeatedly damaged by Israeli invasion and bombardment?
- Source:
Awad, Jihad (2017-01-15). "Conserving the Palestinian Architectural Heritage". International Journal of Heritage Architecture: Studies, Repairs and Maintenance. 1 (3): 454. doi:10.2495/ha-v1-n3-451-460. ISSN 2058-833X.The old city of Nablus has suffered, probably more than any other Palestinian city, from the massive invasion by Israeli forces during the second uprising which started in 2000. Many restoration projects were previously completed by the municipality but unfortunately destroyed by the Israeli bombing of the old city. Many buildings were heavily damaged by Israeli rockets during April 2002. A project was carried out by UNDP and funded by the Japanese government to rebuild the houses. Then in December of 2003, many houses were again damaged during Israeli military activity. This kept recurring: buildings were repaired and then damaged.
Mraffko, Clothilde; Forey, Samuel (2024-02-14). "Israeli bombs are wiping out Gaza's heritage and history". Le Monde.fr. Retrieved 2024-09-29.Whether the Israelis act intentionally or not, "the result is effectively the erasure of a heritage and a history. Symbolically, this is important because this is one of the ways in which people are attached to their territory," warned Benoît Tadié, former cultural adviser to the French consulate general in Jerusalem between 2009 and 2013. He takes as an example the Old City of Gaza, which, like much of the north of the enclave, is now a vast field of ruins. "It wasn't just a site, it was also the heart of today's city. The hammam and the Pacha's Palace were extremely popular places. The museum also served as a place of education for schoolchildren," explained Tadié.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Abdul Ahad Azad and Template:Did you know nominations/Sun Jianai
Created by Onceinawhile (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. Nominator has 80 past nominations.
Onceinawhile (talk) 09:57, 29 September 2024 (UTC).
- @Onceinawhile: Not a review, but there are massive amounts of unsourced content in both articles and "International Journal of Heritage Architecture: Studies, Repairs and Maintence" is coming up as deprecated/predatory on WP:UPSD. What makes it reliable?--Launchballer 22:24, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Launchballer. All the sources are in the bibliography - let me add in-line citations throughout where they have been missed. I will confirm when done.
- On the Jihad Awad source, I am confident that it is reliable - Professor Awad is
full professor of architecture, currently head of architecture department at Ajman University
, and this paper (a conference submission) is cited in his official University biography page. He subsequently published an article covering a similar topic here. The statement is not difficult to source elsewhere if needed. Onceinawhile (talk) 20:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
WIT Press conferences are scams. That source must absolutely be replaced. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:34, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Onceinawhile: Please address the above.--Launchballer 00:18, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Launchballer thank you for bringing this to my attention. I have removed the source referred to above and replaced it with this: Abujidi, Nurhan; Verschure, Han (2006-07-01). "Military Occupation as Urbicide by Construction and Destruction: The Case of Nablus, Palestine". The Arab World Geographer. 9 (2). Allen Press: 206. ISSN 1480-6800.
Given the large number of frequent Israeli army invasions of the Old Town, the so called Operation Defensive Shield in April 2002 is considered the heaviest single operation. It caused damage to 47.5% of the housing blocks that structure the Old Town's urban fabric… During other invasions, a shift in the mechanism and location of destruction is evident. Highly focused, limited-scale demolitions targeting specific sections of the city were identified. The size and scale of destruction are not always determined by the type of invasion. For example, the scale of destruction resulting from the overnight incursion of January 2005 was larger than that of the short-term invasion of January 2004, which lasted 10 days. Moreover, a repeated rhythm in invading and destroying the same buildings during the several invasions was registered over the past four years, with each invasion accompanied by destruction, looting, and vandalism.
- Onceinawhile (talk) 23:02, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- That's fine. I still see unsourced content in both the articles though.--Launchballer 11:53, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks @Launchballer: I added the remaining sources. Both articles are ready for a full review.Onceinawhile (talk) 14:27, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- You're just in time, I was about to mark this for closure! I will review this within the next 24 hours.--Launchballer 14:28, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Long enough, new enough. I don't see any reason why this might deserve a maintenance template, and the hook checks out and the QPQ is done. This is fine, although I would invite promoters to read Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 203#Negative Israel hooks.--Launchballer 11:30, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- You're just in time, I was about to mark this for closure! I will review this within the next 24 hours.--Launchballer 14:28, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks @Launchballer: I added the remaining sources. Both articles are ready for a full review.Onceinawhile (talk) 14:27, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- That's fine. I still see unsourced content in both the articles though.--Launchballer 11:53, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Launchballer thank you for bringing this to my attention. I have removed the source referred to above and replaced it with this: Abujidi, Nurhan; Verschure, Han (2006-07-01). "Military Occupation as Urbicide by Construction and Destruction: The Case of Nablus, Palestine". The Arab World Geographer. 9 (2). Allen Press: 206. ISSN 1480-6800.
- @Onceinawhile: Please address the above.--Launchballer 00:18, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
@Onceinawhile, Launchballer, AirshipJungleman29, Gatoclass, and Chipmunkdavis: I've reopened this following discussion at [1] there was a bit of disagreement, but IMHO the article does not satisfy WP:DYKCOMPLETE, and CMD notes that the hook fact is not directly mentioned either. — Amakuru (talk) 21:11, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Amakuru: understood and thanks for this. I agree with you, and was thinking about this history section when drafting and reviewing. From memory, the chosen areas of history followed the Arabic article versions. It's a difficult balance, faced by all our Old City and Historic district articles, as we don't want to duplicate the entire pre-modern history section of the much more fulsome main articles. Most such articles provide a light overview of the history, and instead focus on the cultural and architectural legacy.
- I will have a go at building out - grateful for your comments. Onceinawhile (talk) 07:52, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Onceinawhile: thanks. I do know what you mean... It's tricky to know how to balance content across intertwined topics. In theory each article is standalone, but we don't want redundancy all the same. A broad-bush overview of the major points across the centuries would be sufficient here anyway. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 08:08, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Onceinawhile: The nomination has already timed out as of today, so if the issues can't be addressed promptly then unfortunately the nomination will be closed as unsuccessful. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:02, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi thanks for the ping. I finished Amakuru’s suggested improvements at Old City of Gaza two days ago, and have just finished at Old City of Nablus. Perhaps Amakuru could take a quick look and confirm if any further comments or changes are needed? Onceinawhile (talk) 09:00, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Narutolovehinata5: Amakuru’s request to build out the history sections were completed within 2.5 days, and that was a week ago. Despite a ping here, and two messages on their talk page, I have yet to hear back from Amakuru. I assume they are busy with other things. Could we now re-promote the nomination? Onceinawhile (talk) 23:24, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi thanks for the ping. I finished Amakuru’s suggested improvements at Old City of Gaza two days ago, and have just finished at Old City of Nablus. Perhaps Amakuru could take a quick look and confirm if any further comments or changes are needed? Onceinawhile (talk) 09:00, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Onceinawhile: The nomination has already timed out as of today, so if the issues can't be addressed promptly then unfortunately the nomination will be closed as unsuccessful. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:02, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Onceinawhile: thanks. I do know what you mean... It's tricky to know how to balance content across intertwined topics. In theory each article is standalone, but we don't want redundancy all the same. A broad-bush overview of the major points across the centuries would be sufficient here anyway. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 08:08, 27 November 2024 (UTC)