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Is SelTrac technology are using in UAE?
[edit]Hi, All Recently I haired that in Dubai (UAE), they have launched a metro trains and they are using SelTrac to operate the train system without human interference. is this true ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.229.235.42 (talk) 09:24, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Thales Rail Signalling Solutions
[edit]VCC (disambiguation) says SelTrac is by Thales Rail Signalling Solutions, but no link of this appears in article SelTrac. -- Tomdo08 (talk) 16:54, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Dubai Metro Signalling & Train Control System - Seltrac S40
[edit]I just found this PDF on IRSE website that describe Dubai Metro's SelTrac S40 quite well. It should be good reference to add information about main components of SelTrac system to this article, including SMC, VCC, VOBC, STC and others. sabre23t (talk) 01:52, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
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New Seltrac Lines to be Added or removed
[edit] | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
I have a COI as I work at Thales dealing with Seltrac.
The main objective of this edit is to complete the list of Seltrac references and correct/ amend some inaccurate information on this page.
Below you can find all Seltrac references that needs to be added to this page as well as sources to back up this adding.
| Seltrac line to be added | Supporting Reference |
| South Korea Bundang Line | https://www.railway-technology.com/uncategorized/newsthales-wins-signalling-contract-for-sin-bundang-line-extension-in-south-korea/ |
| Chile Santiago Line 6 | https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/transportation/press-release/santiago-de-chile-brings-new-reality-urban-mobility-thales |
| Chile Santiago Line 3 | https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https://www.railjournal.com/passenger/metros/santiago-metro-awards-contract-to-caf-thales-consortium/ |
| Morgantown Personal Rapid Transit | https://www.metro-magazine.com/10038348/thales-to-upgrade-w-virginia-u-personal-rapid-transit-system?force-desktop-view=1 |
| DOHA – Red line | https://www.railway-technology.com/projects/doha-metro/ |
| DOHA – Gold line | https://www.railway-technology.com/projects/doha-metro/ |
| DOHA – Green line | https://www.railway-technology.com/projects/doha-metro/ |
| NYCT Queens Boulevard Line | https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https://www.railjournal.com/signalling/siemens-and-thales-chosen-for-new-york-cbtc-project/ |
| Shanghai Line 14 | https://www.railway-technology.com/news/thales-sec-transport-secures-signalling-contract-shanghai-metro-line-14/ |
| Toronto Finch West LRT | https://www.railwayage.com/news/thales-seltrac-selected-for-finch-west-lrt/ |
| Wuhan line 3 | https://www.railway-technology.com/projects/wuhan-metro/#catfish |
| San Franciso
Lines J (Church), K (Ingleside), L (Taraval), M (Ocean View), N (Judah), T (Third St.) |
https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/THALES-4715/news/Thales-Group-Wins-Contract-from-SFMTA-for-Train-Control-Technology-38580647/ |
Below you can find Seltrac references that needs to be amended or removed due to contract cancellation, termination or resignalling.
| Seltrac line to be removed | |
| Canadian Pacific Railway – BC North Line | This line has nothing to do with Seltrac as it is mainline and not urban line, so that’s need to be removed |
| Edmonton Light rail transit | This contract was cancelled, so please remove this reference.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmonton_Light_Rail_Transit |
| Sao Paulo Metro Line 17 | This contract was terminated in 2019, so please remove this line.
https://dbpedia.org/page/Line_17_(São_Paulo_Metro) https://en.byd.com/news/byd-officially-signs-deal-for-the-sao-paulo-metros-line-17-project/ |
| London Piccadilly line | This bid was cancelled, so please remove this reference.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piccadilly_line |
| Manaus Monorail | This project was awarded to BYD in September 2020, so please remove this line
https://www.railjournal.com/regions/central-south-america/sao-paulo-to-resume-work-on-monorail-project/ |
Below you will find lines/incidents to be removed
Seltrac Incidents
In the 2021 Kelana Jaya LRT incident while it is true that the line used Seltrac , the main cause of the accident was human error thus it is not technically a seltrac incident.
This source provides a full run down of the events occurred and concludes that the main cause of the incident was the driver who moved the train towards the wrong direction. This is the same reference used in the wiki page for the incident.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Kelana_Jaya_LRT_collision
The wiki page also highlights how the main cause of the accident was human error.
If this is considered a seltrac incident then under the same logic one could argue that this could be a rolling stock incident. Thus why should we consider it is a Seltrac incident and not a rolling stock incident.
Based off this reasoning we ask that this incident is removed from the Seltrac incident section. Melmorjani (talk) 13:32, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- I was going to reply saying that information on operators who use this system is something that readers ought to go to the company website to find. But after spending 10 minutes trying to find that type of a list on the company's website I came to the conclusion that that it doesn't exist, or if it does, the company goes out of its way to make it very difficult to find. Nevertheless, I still feel that this information would fall under WP:NOTDIRECTORY, so I hesitate to add anything beyond what is already listed in the article. I did remove the items you asked to be removed. I also removed all unreferenced text within the article, as well as the advert maintenance template. The article as it stands only has three references, and they're all to the company, which is a very poor state to be in. If better references aren't found I'm afraid the article might find itself at WP:AFD. I would urge the COI editor to find additional references that come from reliable, third-party sources. A check of the New York Times didn't bring anything up so I understand that the road ahead is an uphill one. But sources must exist somewhere for anyone willing to take some time to search for them. Regards, Spintendo 12:16, 5 August 2023 (UTC)