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Former featured article candidateMe at the zoo is a former featured article candidate. Please view the links under Article milestones below to see why the nomination was archived. For older candidates, please check the archive.
Good articleMe at the zoo has been listed as one of the Social sciences and society good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Did You Know Article milestones
DateProcessResult
April 12, 2011Articles for deletionNo consensus
April 26, 2011Deletion reviewEndorsed
July 31, 2014Articles for deletionKept
April 13, 2024Good article nomineeListed
May 6, 2024Peer reviewReviewed
July 9, 2024Peer reviewReviewed
September 10, 2024Featured article candidateNot promoted
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on June 29, 2024.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that YouTube co-founder Jawed Karim has updated the description of his video "Me at the zoo" on multiple occasions to criticize the website's business decisions?
Current status: Former featured article candidate, current good article

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 22:55, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jawed Karim
Jawed Karim
Improved to Good Article status by Davest3r08 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Davest3r08 >:3 (talk) 01:06, 14 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Davest3r08: Everything checks out here. Just waiting on the one QPQ. Nice work! 🐱FatCat96🐱 Chat with Cat 16:04, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

With YouTube Rewind 2018: Everyone Controls Rewind (nom) in prep 5, this should not be scheduled until the next prep 5.--Launchballer 17:09, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Videos attract huge views, and I recommend waiting until we have an answer.--Launchballer 10:24, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: I've replaced the video with an image of Karim. It's going to take a while for a consensus on the upload's copyright to form anyways. 🌙Eclipse (talk) (contribs) 18:12, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I won't use that image per WP:DYKIMG. Just noting here that, while the hook should technically have an end-of-sentence citation, ALT0 is clearly a summary of the rest of that paragraph and the alternative's potentially a {{clump}}, so I'm minded to IAR - but is there a source available?--Launchballer 18:26, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

- @Launchballer, Davest3r08, LunaEclipse, and Schwede66: I've removed this from the queue again, as it doesn't look like the issue of the video's copyright has been resolved yet. I think before this runs, we need to either (a) remove the video from the article, or (b) ascertain that there's a consensus somewhere that its copyright status is valid. As far as I could tell from the discussion last time, we were minded to reject the video's certification given that Lapitsky recorded it, not Karim. I'd think without definitive knowledge that Lapitsky's intention was to release it under that licence, and with it not even being under that licence any more anyway, this is pretty dubious...  — Amakuru (talk) 20:11, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've added my 2c to the discussion on Commons. That said, I'm not sure that's quite the right venue for that discussion; it should have been put up for deletion. Schwede66 21:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@LunaEclipse, Schwede66, Rjjiii, Kentuckian, and Amakuru: Just noting here that I have nominated the video for deletion on Commons.--Launchballer 10:25, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, this nom has stalled for way too long. I've removed the video from the article for the time being. lunaeclipse (talk) 22:24, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I wish you the very best of much-needed luck at WT:DYK if you wish to go down that avenue. For now, let's get this back into Approved. I recommend promoting this no earlier than prep 4 just in case the Commons discussion returns a 'keep' vote, so that the video can be substituted back in.--Launchballer 18:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox image

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Should we use the video's thumbnail in the infobox instead of the video itself? $456,000 Squid Game in Real Life! has done so already. TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 13:41, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll add it and see what happens. TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 20:50, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
UPDATE: It turns out the video is freely licensed. This archived page specifically states, "This video is published under the Creative Commons Attribution license." See this deletion discussion. Sigh... TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 16:53, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The video is not freely licensed. Per the DYK discussion above, it was released by Karim under the CC licence at one point in the past, but he isn't obviously the copyright holder. It was filmed by his friend Yakov Lapitsky and, unless it was explicitly released to Karim in some way, it isn't the latter's video to release. (It's also no longer under the CC licence incidentally). I've reverted back to the fair-use thumbnail for the time being.  — Amakuru (talk) 20:10, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
CC licenses are irrevocable. - Sebbog13 (talk) 18:59, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They're only irrevocable if the person who released them under that licence was the actual copyright holder. In this case it doesn't seem that he was. A release by Yakov Lapitsky is required, the one by Karim in his YouTube is channel is irrelevant.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:24, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Copy Edit

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TrademarkedTWOrantula, I saw on the GOCE requests page that you are open to feedback. I didn't notice any particular trends in errors but I am happy to explain anything if you have questions. I did change a number of sentences from passive to active voice. Passive voice isn't incorrect, per se, but active voice is often clearer and easier to read, especially when talking about something concrete like who recorded a video. SilkPyjamas (talk) 17:02, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]