Talk:Little Rock Nine

Clarification on section "The Lost Year"

The sentence "Even though Faubus's idea of private schools never played out" should be changed to: "Even though the school board's plan to open private schools was blocked by a court injunction...

(source: https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/1998/sep/27/little-rocks-lost-class-1959-recalls-turbulent-yea/ "the school board tried to lease its buildings to a corporation that would run them as private, segregated schools. Within hours of the plan's formation, a panel of the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals issued an injunction blocking it.")

The same article also states that teachers were bound to be at school during closure by virtue of their contracts. This is more precise than stating that "The teachers were completely under Faubus's control" (Little Rock Nine Wikipedia article). Or, if the Faubus's control extends further, it would be interesting to hear more about that.

--Atg205 (talk) 09:23, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

 Done. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 08:50, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

WHERE'S THE ARTICLE???

A copyright issue should not shut down the entire article. Just remove the disputed portions. There is no way the entire article was lifted from another work. Obviously this constitutes vandalism with the intent of making the entire article inaccessible to anyone researching the topic and I'm guessing this was done by someone motivated by racism. I THEREFORE DEMAND THAT WIKIPEDIA IMMEDIATELY INVESTIGATE THIS OBVIOUS VANDALISM AND RESTORE THIS ARTICLE!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:9500:ff00:8e:c181:172e:81c9:6b5d (talk) 23:40, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Current copyright concerns

The identified source, archived here, from which this article is suspected of being copied, is dated November 14, 2012. This source is structured much like a Wikipedia article itself, with a lead section, subheadings, an image/caption, and a referral to a "Main article". The past version of this article as of that November 14, 2012, date yields the same content as this 'source', though it is the result of thousands of Wikipedia edits up to that date.

It thus seems clear that the "Ro Ho" editor at the originalpeople.org site copied this Wikipedia article at that date rather than someone having copied its content the other direction. It is unfortunate that a Wikipedia editor later used the old copy of this article as a source (for one sentence), but I am confident that is what happened, and that this copyright violation concern may be resolved accordingly. The source should be removed from the article and its sentence marked with a 'citation needed' template or removed entirely.

I write this with the hope that "an administrator, copyright clerk or OTRS agent" will read my findings and take them into account upon resolving the issue. —ADavidB 02:51, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 July 2022

https://peabodyawards.com/award-profile/little-rock-central-high-school/

AS WE SEE IT: "Little Rock Central High School" (1979) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9e-cgUa-fE 70.189.223.151 (talk) 01:57, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

please review these two external links...the "as we see it" documentary received the peabody award...please add the youtube external link to the article...the pbs documentary is of value to researchers and scholars...thank you 70.189.223.151 (talk) 11:24, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.Fbifriday (talk) 07:39, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

The photo with New York City's mayor Wagner

One question: the issue around The Little Rock Nine took place in 1957, according to all sources I know the mayor of New York City Wagner died in 1953. How is it possible that this photo was taken? — Preceding unsigned comment added by YOG'TZE (talk • contribs) 21:15, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Wagner's son, Robert Jr, was mayor of New York from 1954 to 1965. I've updated the link to point to the correct Wagner article. —ADavidB 22:08, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 December 2023

I would like to add a new subheading under "Aftermath" titled "Little Rock and Foreign Affairs". The body of text underneath it would be as follows;

The Little Rock Crisis took place amidst a Cold War world. Civil rights historian Mary L. Dudziak argues that President Dwight D. Eisenhower and the US Federal Government’s primary concern was the world’s perception of the USA. US Secretary of State, John Foster Dulles was particularly aware of the foreign impact, telling Attorney General Herbert Brownell over a phone call that “this situation was ruining our foreign policy”. Dulles was asked by Brownell to look over a draft of the President’s Arkansas speech following the crisis, where he suggested Eisenhower “put in a few more sentences in this draft speech emphasising the harm done abroad”.

Mary Dudziak uses other evidence such as US Department of Justice briefs and propaganda to show the global implications of Little Rock. The crisis came partly as a result of the Brown vs Board of Education case. US Department of Justice briefs gave only one reason for involvement in cases like this; that segregation harmed US foreign relations. They argued that the existence of discrimination had an adverse effect on relations with other countries, especially countries in the third world who had been targeted by the Truman Doctrine. Evidence of US propaganda can be seen in the booklet The Negro in American Life, which was translated into fifteen languages and distributed to many countries. It set out to turn the shame surrounding discrimination, piled onto the USA by Soviet propaganda, into an advantage. It boasted of the progress that could be achieved in American democracy.

The impact of foreign policy, foreign relations and America’s international reputation were crucial in the response from Eisenhower to Little Rock, which eventually culminated in his decisions to order the intervention of the 101st airborne division and federalise the National Guard. Jbroom1 (talk) 19:15, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Only one source gives the exact page number, the other two have page ranges listed. Surely the requesting editor does not expect the reviewer to read 75 pages in order to verify these claims.  Spintendo  23:36, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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