Talk:Lady Gaga discography/Archive 4
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Single Sales Grossly Under-represented
Many of Gaga's singles are much lower than they are in actuality. For instance, 'Bad Romance' has sold nearly 5 million copies in the US, whereas on this Wikipedia page, it is reported to have only be a Platinum record. Can someone edit this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.120.234.38 (talk) 03:43, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- Can you please provide a reliable source to prove this? Adabow (talk · contribs) 06:33, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
BOTW IS PLATINUM IN US ADEDD IT !!!!!! GO AND SEE IN GAGADAYLY OR BILLBOARD OR PEREZ HILTON!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.1.221.91 (talk) 14:34, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Pokerface reach 6 million downloads
gagadaily.com has published an article saying that Pokerface has reach 6 million paid downloads, becoming the 3rd song in history to do so. Does this count as 6x platinum? calvin999 (talk) 00:31, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
- Not until RIAA is updated. Decodet (talk) 00:35, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Born This Way is #1 in Germany
http://top40-charts.com/chart.php?cid=12 http://www.worldcharts.co.uk/world charts/germany.htm http://www.charts.de/song.asp?artist=Lady GaGa&title=Born This Way&cat=s&country=de —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.7.104.229 (talk) 16:42, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
- It's been updated. Thanks. Yves (talk) 17:32, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
'The Fame' Sales - 16,500,000
According to Entertainment Weekly, Lady GaGa's album sales for 'The Fame' stand at 16.5million worldwide. This takes into account different Asian markets which are harder to track. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.7.104.229 (talk) 17:23, 21 March 2011 (UTC) http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20470317,00.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.7.104.229 (talk) 20:47, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- This is the amount of albums she has sold, including sales for The Fame and sales for The Fame Monster. Decodet (talk) 22:12, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
The fame in France
The french sales and certification for the album "the fame" need to be updated. Actually the album is diamond in France (and not 2x platinum anymore). It's written on the official site : SNEP. The diamond status is given when sales are exceding 500,000 copies as it's written on the same page.
The sales where - in fact - higher than 535,000 copies as of the end of december 2010. Charts In France
Bliss59 (talk) 18:02, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
- thanks for bringing this up. — Legolas (talk2me) 15:25, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
The Singles
I think The Singles compilation album should have an article. Even though it is a small improvement, it will make Gaga's discography more complete. Any thoughts? Zpenguin23 (talk) 15:41, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- I believe it fails WP:GNG as it lacks coverage in reliable third-party sources. Adabow (talk · contribs) 04:44, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- I agree. As a box set compilation with no new material, there would be hardly any background to the article, and as far as I know, it did not receive much in terms of promotion. And as stated above, an album requires coverage in reliable sources to meet notability guidelines. Yves (talk) 04:50, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Born This Way #1 France
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_number-one_hits_of_2011_(France) BTW is listed as hitting #1 in digital and physical charts and on the SNEP chart... http://www.disqueenfrance.com/fr/page-256084.xml (she is #3 this week, it says last week she was #1). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.7.104.229 (talk) 03:56, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry. The source we currently use for all French positions does not support that. Yves (talk) 05:24, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Actually, the IP is right Yves, Hung Medien takes so long to update the french charts that we have to wait for sometime. — Legolas (talk2me) 12:33, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Or does Lescharts interpret both the physical and digital charts and take an "average" of the two? Adabow (talk · contribs) 19:46, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- No, it prints the physical only since digital is still not incorporated into the msain chart by SNEP. But Lescharta is usually one/two weeks old. — Legolas (talk2me) 06:05, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Or does Lescharts interpret both the physical and digital charts and take an "average" of the two? Adabow (talk · contribs) 19:46, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Actually, the IP is right Yves, Hung Medien takes so long to update the french charts that we have to wait for sometime. — Legolas (talk2me) 12:33, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Judas
The chart peaks are in the song article, but aren't in the discography. e.g ARIAA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.99.187.1 (talk) 15:50, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
The Edge Of Glory
This is a promotional single please add it! The Edge of Glory
- New threads are placed down. — Legolas (talk2me) 12:01, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Template
"Hair" is not added to the promotional singles section in the template at the end of the article 119.153.29.136 (talk) 17:12, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- "Hair" does not have an article at present. Hence not added in the template. — Legolas (talk2me) 17:27, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
chillin single...
yeah, chillin is a single, but lady gaga is only featuring in it, like every other artist they have list single as a main artist and and as a featuried artist, like christina aguilera has it. chillin should be change to as a featuried artist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.154.109.218 (talk) 09:02, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- This has already been discussed. See above. Yves (talk) 18:24, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- There was no consensus on the above section Yves, I do believe that "Chillin" should be put back on the main table. — Legolas (talk2me) 14:30, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
- Is it not? Yves (talk) 16:32, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
- There was no consensus on the above section Yves, I do believe that "Chillin" should be put back on the main table. — Legolas (talk2me) 14:30, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Isn't it obvious that some pressed Gaga hater wanted "Chillin" to be put in the main singles list because they can't stand the fact that Gaga has never had a single chart lower than #6 in the US? #justsaying —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.188.205.66 (talk) 09:54, 14 March 2011 (UTC) How about having a seperate section like Kesha? Divide the singles tab into two sections. singles as a "main artist", and singles as a "featured artist" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.153.112.209 (talk) 14:48, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
- Please read the above discussion first. Adabow (talk · contribs) 20:35, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
What above discussion? Why is this even a discussion? There is a reason that everything lists her as a featured artist including this table and the cover art. She sn't the main artist. It's not her single. This is ridiculous.
I'd like to bring this back up, this should be moved from the main singles to the 'Other Charted Songs' section. It is no different to Video Phone, it is a featured single, so why is it being shown in the main singles section? It is not correct. Buxton87 (talk) 10:43, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Actually, after looking over the discography again I think a new section should be made for singles as a featured artist. I don't know why Video Phone is listed as not a proper single as it was released as a stand alone single, so can a new section be made for singles as a featured artist where 'Chillin' and 'Video Phone' can be moved to? Buxton87 (talk) 10:46, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- The answer is no. Gaga's only featured single to be released commercially is "Chillin", which is not moved into a separate table since its just unnecessary to create another table for a single entry. "Video Phone" the original version doesnot feature Gaga, she was only featured in the remix, which wasn't commercially released as a CD single. Hence it is not a Gaga single. — Legolas (talk2me) 13:32, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
What about 'other charted songs'? Isn't that why that's there in the first place? For extra singles that aren't part of her main discography? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.20.128.166 (talk) 23:34, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
SALES???
So recently on the UK television show Graham Norton, he told her about some "statistics." Those statistics were album and single sales and he says: "69 million singles sold and 23 million albums sold"
If this is being televised to millions of people I think they're going to believe that and that I'm guessing those are the OFFICIAL NUMBERS.
Change.
The video is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oMF3ttjnA4 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.149.142.11 (talk) 06:15, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- YouTube is not a reliable show and neither is show presenters. — Legolas (talk2me) 07:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
You don't seriously believe those numbers? Many artists couldn't even do that in the 90's. --84.119.28.117 (talk) 19:27, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
There are two newspapers from Uk claming she sold 22 million album. I think they are ussing Graham Norton as a source because those sales are inflated. Billboard said this week tha The Fame sold 12 million WW, it is impossible total sales are 22 million because TFM EP soldless than 2 million in US, Japan and canada. I think sales now are a bit over 15 million but 22 is impossible. The MTV source said she sold 13 million in August 2010, it is impossible she sold 9 million since then.--Albes29 (talk) 08:10, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Born This Way
It's Gold in Italy, Sweden and Spain! Please mention that in the certification. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.153.47.242 (talk) 06:51, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
- They are not among the 10 mentioned charts in the article. — Legolas (talk2me) 06:56, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Amazon.com correctly reviews "Born This Way" as Lady Gaga's THIRD STUDIO ALBUM. http://www.amazon.com/Born-This-Special-Lady-Gaga/dp/B004K4AUZW/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1306125810&sr=1-1 Please correct it in the Born This Way album page and name The Fame Monster as her second studio album (GRAMMY AWARD WINNER FOR BEST POP ALBUM), it is obvious that IT IS NOT AN EP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.45.185.249 (talk) 04:48, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
She just said it in Letterman: THIS IS MY THIRD ALBUM. Are you going to continue ignoring the real facts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.45.15.131 (talk) 04:05, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
UK iTunes
EVERY song is charting on the UK iTunes, so get ready to considerably expand the "other charted songs section" lol calvin999 (talk) 12:03, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yes but we need Music Week to publish them. — Legolas (talk2me) 12:14, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yes I know, the album was on released yesterday, obviously not published yet, I'm just saying. calvin999 (talk) 19:22, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from Afraz Rasheed, 28 May 2011
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Please mention that lady gaga's song Born This Way is 2 times platinum in the US and that it charted in france at number 1.. Also the fame has sold 2,540,000 copies in Uk it should be 9 times platinum... And pls check for other errors as well.. Do u hate lady gaga bcuz of which u r not changing these achievements...
Afrazrasheed (talk) 21:23, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
- Not doneSources for these changes please. If you dnt have a proper source don't bother using the template again. — Legolas (talk2me) 05:39, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
born this way
Born this way the album just debuted at no. 1 in australia and has already gone platinum. Could someone please make these changes. thank you. 124.176.154.8 (talk) 08:45, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- Added. — Legolas (talk2me) 09:49, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
Single
Add 3-Way (The Golden Rule) as featured artist — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.250.60.19 (talk) 07:47, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Germany
And also Germany!--HusseinIED (talk) 11:38, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- Source? — Legolas (talk2me) 11:50, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- http://www.charts.de/album.asp?artist=Lady GaGa&title=Born This Way&country=de--Blackjacks101 (talk) 11:54, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you Black Jack Daniels :D — Legolas (talk2me) 12:00, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- http://www.charts.de/album.asp?artist=Lady GaGa&title=Born This Way&country=de--Blackjacks101 (talk) 11:54, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Born This Way album sales in Japan
184,000 according to Oricon - http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/rankmusic/88250/full — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.7.104.229 (talk) 15:34, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- Not done Japan is not one of the countries which has its chart/s listed on Gaga's discography, so it would be a bit undue to add the Japan sales here. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:05, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from Afrazrasheed, 1 June 2011
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@Legolas hello i had read about born this way topping french singles on your wikipedia site but now it has been corrected i didnt know about it thats y i told u and i was talking about lady gaga uk sales certifications because adele has sold 2.4 million and she has been certified 8 times platinum by BPI.. heres your wikipedia link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21_(Adele_album) and lady gaga The Fame has sold 2.54million heres the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fame#Chart_performance and it has been certified 4 times platinum.. i dunno why.. i cannot really find any album certifications on the BPI site of any album so i gave refrences to ur wikipedia information... i mean dosent it look obvious that adele selling 2.4 Million has been certified 8 times platinum but lady gaga selling 2.54 million in the Uk has been certifies 4 times platinum... and ill bother using the template again.. okay but then will the fame stay only 4 times platinum... when it should be more...
Afrazrasheed (talk) 08:22, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
- Not done As I said there, record companies apply for certification to BPI, and Gaga's record company hasn't done so, while Adele's has. So 21 is certified 8× platinum while The Fame is 4× platinum. And this is not the correct usage of the template. — Legolas (talk2me) 08:29, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Chart Positions - Born This Way
Born This Way #1 Canada http://www.billboard.com/charts/canadian-hot-100
BORN THIS WAY IS PLATINUM IN UNITE STATES PLEASE SOMEONE CHANGE ....THE ARTICLE IS PROTECTED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO TO GAGA DAILY ...PEREZ HILTON OR BILLBoard !!!!change it!!!!!!!!!!
- CarlosKARUROSU (talk) 05:14, 4 June 2011 (UTC)Focus on finding the news on the source which hands Platinum certifications, the RIAA, which has a searchable database at riaa.com. The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) has NOT certified Born This Way Platinum, as of this writing, regardless of sales.
Update:
As of June 2011, she has sold more than 51 million singles and nearly 20 million albums worldwide source.
Please update ;) ! --79.199.57.134 (talk) 18:01, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hmmm. Lots of more or less realiable-considered sources state figures but an encyclopedia has to give exact sales certifications (platinum, gold, etc.) awarded by official music industry organizations (such as IFPI) to state the sure sales. This is just my opinion. -- Frous (talk) 18:34, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- EDIT on my opinion: An encyclopedia has to specify all the sales certifications, to count the complete sales. -- Frous (talk) 18:36, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Born This Way (Album) UK Certification:
Should it not be certified as 2xGold? It has sold 215,000 copies. http://www.bpi.co.uk/certifiedawards/search.aspx — Preceding unsigned comment added by CharlieStockwell (talk • contribs) 13:04, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- The link you provided shows no result for Born This Way under Lady Gaga. And certifications are not automatically updated by BPI. Recording companies have to apply for it, and Polydore hasn't applied for such. — Legolas (talk2me) 13:52, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- 2x Gold wouldn't exist as a bpi certification anyways. Mister sparky (talk) 00:35, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
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pls add uk charts in Eps bcuz fame monster has reached one even though cherytree and hitmixes have not and also incluse dance/electronic albums chart on studio albums and eps and remix albums.. i know dance electronic albums is not the parent chart but you have written hot dance club songs on katy perrys songs.. so what is the problem if u include it and also even though it has reached the top with the fame it has na so why dont u include.........plz Afrazrasheed (talk) 20:49, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Afrazrasheed (talk) 20:49, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- The Fame Monster did not chart separately in the UK, so it won't be added. Dance/Electronic is a genre chart and not needed. — Legolas (talk2me) 05:55, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
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Can u also tell me what happens if the label dosent apply for certifications and cant the recording associations give them the certifications on their own.. Afrazrasheed (talk) 20:56, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Afrazrasheed (talk) 20:56, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Edit requests are intended to suggest changes to the article. General inquiries should be made at the reference desk. Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 01:49, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- then they don't receive the certification. simples. Mister sparky (talk) 00:39, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Dance in the Dark
Dance in the Dark is listed as promotional even though it was sent to radios and there IS a physical release. It's called The Fame Monster (album). --Mishternagy (talk) 18:49, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- No it wasn't released separately as a single. Quit pulling false facts. — Legolas (talk2me) 05:03, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
Source of Born This Way U.S. sales
The source used for Born This Way's U.S.A. sales say it has sold more than 5 million copies, and that GaGa said it herself. So, if your going to count that as a source you need to change the other sales number saying its sold only 2 million worldwide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.10.96 (talk) 22:05, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- No, we donot take Gaga's words which is what the source reports, For the US sales it is reporting SoundZScan. — Legolas (talk2me) 04:24, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Why is Video Phone not under the "featured artist' section
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Video Phone released as a single? And the single was remixed to include Lady Gaga (just like how Kanye West was added on to the E.T. song with Katy Perry). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.1.167 (talk) 10:15, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- The remixed single was not released as an official single. — Legolas (talk2me) 10:23, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from PonoranM, 1 July 2011
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- Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Not sure what you're looking to change here. Please be specific instead of posting the entire page. Jnorton7558 (talk) 00:37, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- I removed the "request" (the copy-and-pasted article) as it was clogging up the talk page. Adabow (talk · contribs) 01:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Formatting Messed Up
The tables are messed up, screwing with the formatting of the page. Can someone fix this please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.250.232.91 (talk) 22:36, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
The Fame Monster sales.. Source MTV.... LEGOLAS
now can u update that it has sold 5.8 million around the world... and also in her lady gaga page can u change the sales mentioned. also on her fame monster wiki page... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afrazrasheed (talk • contribs) 23:29, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, but the United World Chart is published by Media Traffic, an unreliable source. MTV attributes the sales data to them, so this article's numbers unreliable. Adabow (talk · contribs) 04:20, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Extended plays
It has occurred to me that it is not wholly accurate to lump The Fame Monster with The Cherrytree Sessions and Hitmixes, as the latter two had limited releases. Perhaps those two records could be reclassified as a live album (even if it is only 3 tracks) and a remix album, because it seems disingenous to say she had 3 EPs when The Fame Monster is more of an EP than the other two.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 20:56, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Glory
Glory is up to No. 6 in Germany... Please change this! --79.199.15.116 (talk) 22:49, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
- Source? — Legolas (talk2me) 04:19, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Born This Way Sales
Gaga confirm that BTW sales are more than 5 million not 2 (http://twitter.com/#!/ladygaga/status/83643608376418304) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.250.192.85 (talk) 18:12, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
- Not a reliable source. — Legolas (talk2me) 04:19, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
LadyGaga certifications and sales
Please can you add US certifications and sales to Lady Gaga's singles? I've read on her official site that Alejandro is 2× Platinum US, Born This Way 3× Platinum, Judas Gold, The Edge Of Glory Platinum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Larlepene345 (talk • contribs) 07:46, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
- Provide a source please? — Legolas (talk2me) 07:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Certifications
All of these certifications are on the "Born This Way" album page, but not the Lady Gaga discography page. :)
Australia Platinum[96] Belgium Platinum[133] Brazil 2× Platinum[134] Canada 3× Platinum[135] Japan Platinum[136] Mexico Platinum[123] New Zealand Platinum[100] Russia 4× Platinum[137] Spain Gold[138] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.244.10.77 (talk) 06:22, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
- The Australia, Canada and New Zealand ones are listed on the discography page. The other nations are not listed as one of the ten charts, therefore their certifications are not included here. Adabow (talk · contribs) 06:32, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
LadyGaga certifications and sales 2
Born this way single was released in February and it sold about 2.94 million copies in US, which means it's double platinum. OK, you said we need a source to put it on wiki. But Katy Perry singles have their sales and US certifications? ONly few months after they'd been released, and Gaga's Telephone and Alejadnro from 2010 don't????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Larlepene345 (talk • contribs) 11:07, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
- Record companies need to apply for certifications, they are not automatically updated. Katy Perry's record company has applied for those numbers, while Gaga's haven't. — Legolas (talk2me) 12:51, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Overall Sales
Born This Way has sold 5 million copies worldwide. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/lady-gaga-touches-down-in-sydney/story-e6frf7kf-1226091269635 Someone please change. 120.144.5.180 (talk) 08:27, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
- Hmm, I'm not sure. The source says "Born This Way, is the fastest selling album of the year around the word, her minders say", so the sales could be taken from the word of the record companies. I will wait for other opinions, though. Adabow (talk · contribs) 08:51, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
- Correct per Ada. Not reliable in that context. — Legolas (talk2me) 09:20, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
The Edge Of Glory: Platnium
Hey. Just to tell you Edge Of Glory reached Platnium in both New Zealend and Australia not gold. Reference is in The Edge Of Glory single wikipedia page. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.203.33.77 (talk) 18:08, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
- Read again. — Legolas (talk2me) 18:11, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Sales
There is a seperate column for "Sales" in Katy perry's single section. Why not in Gaga's? 203.99.177.95 (talk) 06:41, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
- Because its unnecessary. And Katy Perry's business in Katy Perry's article please. — Legolas (talk2me) 06:45, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
- Agreed. It's not exactly notable in this case (and I don't find it notable in the Perry discography, but that doesn't have to do with this list). If Gaga's single success were almost entirely driven by digital sales (Glee comes to mind), I would say include it, but as it stands it's just superfluous IMO. –Chase (talk / contribs) 04:51, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Charts
Edge of glory has just reached no. 6 in australia, please change. check the aria charts website for reference. 124.180.109.153 (talk) 08:43, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
- This was already done when I checked. — Legolas (talk2me) 14:37, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from 24.127.235.45, 20 July 2011
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Can the certifications for Born this Way be added here they are the references are on the albums page. Certifications Country Certifications Australia: Platinum Belgium: Platinum Brazil: 2× Platinum Canada: 3× Platinum Denmark: Gold Hungary: Gold Italy: Gold[ Japan 2× Platinum Mexico Platinum New Zealand: Platinum Russia: 4× Platinum Spain: Gold Thank You!!!!
24.127.235.45 (talk) 00:57, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
- Again, the Australian, Canadian and New Zealand certifications are listed here, while the other countries need not have their certs here because their corresponding charts aren't here. Only ten countries are chosen to list here to avoid bloating. They are: US, Australia, Austria, Canada, France, Germany, Ireland, New Zealand, Switzerland and the UK. —Andrewstalk 01:27, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
One Sequin at a Time
I removed this title from the list as it is not an Official Lady Gaga release, not authorised by herself or her record companies. Can anyone prove otherwise? My edit was reverted but the only references are from Amazon.com, Amazon.co.uk and the fact that it charted in New Zealand on their music video charts. This title is not listed on the Official Lady Gaga store or is anything to do with Streamline Records, KonLive Distribution or Interscope Records. I propose its removal if no official reference can be found... Thanks JWAD Communicate|Nicely 12:02, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
- I agree. If this is added then all those other unofficial titles we can find on Amazon might as well be added. One Sequin at a Time is not official. It should be removed. Stephenjamesx (talk) 14:14, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
- If there's no info on Interscope or Gaga's official label in other other countries do not list it, then it can be removed. — Legolas (talk2me) 14:22, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
- I agree. If this is added then all those other unofficial titles we can find on Amazon might as well be added. One Sequin at a Time is not official. It should be removed. Stephenjamesx (talk) 14:14, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from 24.127.235.45, 21 July 2011
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Can an a chart in the singles be added for Italy. Other artists have it why not Gaga?
24.127.235.45 (talk) 01:52, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- See above comment.
- Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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template. Jnorton7558 (talk) 02:19, 21 July 2011 (UTC)- Ten charts are currently used. Any more bloats the table. —Andrewstalk 03:13, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Chart performance
There are 2 more chart positions to be included: No. 103 for "3-Way (The Golden Rule)" and No. 111 for Scheiße... Both charted in the USA and the source is the usual one for Bubbling Under...
Please include ;) ! --79.199.23.73 (talk) 16:32, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, Bubbling Under charts are not included. — Legolas (talk2me) 16:34, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
But why are they included for the UK, when the UK is not even the singer's mother country? --79.199.57.134 (talk) 18:20, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- The UK chart is actually a 200 position chart, not the 75 positions they publish. So those positions are not bubbling under positions, but actual ranks on the UK Singles Chart. — Legolas (talk2me) 05:54, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- you don't know how good it makes me feel to read that somebody non-british actually understands that! Mister sparky (talk) 00:37, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Someone should write US Dance/Club Play peaks to singles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keykeeperer (talk • contribs) 07:29, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from ZeitergeistMP, 21 July 2011
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Hi, Lady Gaga's Judas has received a Gold certification in New Zealand http://www.radioscope.net.nz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=77&Itemid=63 Here is the link ZeitergeistMP (talk) 21:49, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Pre-2008
Listings of pre-2008 songs, e.g. with the Stefani Germanotta Band, seem to be missing from this page, as well as her songwriting credits for Britney Spears, New Kids on the Block, Fergie, and the Pussycat Dolls (according to Lady Gaga). -- Beland (talk) 02:26, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
- Please dont use tags in article talk pages. Pre-2008 songs do not deal with Lady Gaga and there is no confirmation as to the legal credits she received for it. — Legolas (talk2me) 05:28, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
Music Video
why music video for 3-Way (The Golden Rule) that featured Lady Gaga haven't been put into the list of music video? This video is literally to be considered as music video. That song is officially publish eventhough it does not included in any of The Lonely Island's album. This song also already been sold on iTunes. Even wikipedia has page for it. So please put the music video on the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Syukri Abd Rahman (talk • contribs) 12:58, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- Showing a SNL performance does not make it a music video. — Legolas (talk2me) 13:55, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from 72.192.197.226, 15 August 2011
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I believe the Lady GaGa Discography page on Wikipedia should have a column under the "Peak Chart Positions" heading (for her singles) showing her unparalleled success on the US Billboard Hot Dance/Club Songs Chart, of which 9 of her past 10 singles have reached the #1 position. The only song to not achieve this feat was "Just Dance" peaking at #2. I believe this should be brought to the viewers' attention, as she started out as a Dance artist and has a PROMINENT following in the Dance/Electronic music community.
72.192.197.226 (talk) 07:04, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
- Not done Per guidelines, only major charts go on discographies. status ϟ talk 07:21, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Lady Gaga sales
According to the article quoted Lady Gaga has sold just 13 million albums worldwide, so she is not a best selling music artist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikitafalgoon (talk • contribs) 04:13, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
You And I
Debuts at No. 34 in Australia. Source= ARIA --79.199.44.138 (talk) 09:11, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
- You have to wait until ARIA posts this. — Legolas (talk2me) 09:20, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from 24.127.235.45, 3 September 2011
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Edge of Glory has gotten 2x Platinum Certification http://www.ariacharts.com.au/pages/charts_display_singles.asp?chart=1U50
24.127.235.45 (talk) 01:17, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
- Done --Jnorton7558 (talk) 05:25, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
BLACK JESUS † AMEN FASHION
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No. 22 in Spain... http://spanishcharts.com/weekchart.asp?cat=s Please add =) --79.199.16.107 (talk) 22:39, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Born This Way
Born This Way (single) has been certified as Platinum in the UK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_number-one_singles_from_the_2010s_(UK) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.12.84.230 (talk) 07:02, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
- No it hasn't been. BPI only lists Born This Way the album as certified platinum. — Legolas (talk2me) 11:38, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
The Fame
From what I understand, The Fame was #2 in New Zealand, not #1! change it!
Source: http://charts.org.nz/showitem.asp?interpret=Lady GaGa&titel=The Fame&cat=a BrunoBittencourt (talk) 14:19, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Other Songs
Hi. I saw this edit... and i have a question... do somebody have a link to conffirmed that information? Or a photo o something... I really need something that proves that info. Plis, is to es:Scheiße.--NicolásTM (talk) 01:50, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
- Hi I can confirm that those info are indeed present. Both ChartsPlus and Music Week publish the 200 position of the UK charts. — Legolas (talk2me) 03:01, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
- But i don't have that service. For that, they blocked me in es:WP for the peak of Sß in UK! And i have a link to check the info. :( --NicolásTM (talk) 14:32, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from Sportslover1213, 1 October 2011
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Hi, You and I, is Gold in New Zealand here's the link http://www.rianz.org.nz/rianz/chart.asp
Sportslover1213 (talk) 23:11, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
- Marking as answered as you are able to edit the article yourself now, and appear to have already. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 01:20, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
singles
There should be a seperate section for her featured singles,like all the other artists have. 203.99.176.157 (talk) 11:05, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
- I agree. — Legolas (talk2me) 15:14, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
But there isn't any on this article. can you please change? 203.99.176.157 (talk) 15:57, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
Unreleased(leaked) MUSIC VIDEO
There is a music video leaked online in 2010 from the band named The Midway State. The song was a cover but they did make a music video for it and it featured Lady Gaga on the video also for the song. They didn't release the song/video officially but still it's a MUSIC VIDEO and it's rarely happen, so why didn't just put the information into the Music Video section. For me it's a valuable information especially when it comes about music video.
For the video: Don't Give Up
For the proof (Wikipedia): The Midway State
--Syukri Abd Rahman (talk) 15:03, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
- We go for third party notability, find me one. — Legolas (talk2me) 15:22, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Well, I found few websites discussing about this matter but I'll just going to give you 3 possibly reliable websites. Hopefully you'll accept it and by the way I will edit this straight to the music video section and if you think it is unworthy (even though rarely happen) I hope you tell me the reasons to it. Here's the links:
Idolator
Spinner
We Are Pop Slags
--Syukri Abd Rahman (talk) 11:41, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Sales of Born This Way
Born This Way has sold over 5,000,000 by October 2011 and not 8,000,000 exemplares. To chance the points of sales don't make the rise of any sales or it doesen't getting better. So stop to chance the points, thats silly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.44.233.48 (talk) 16:13, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
- Now Digital Spy claim that BTW sold 5 million ( http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a344147/lady-gagas-born-this-way-tops-5-million-global-sales.html ). I think we should find another source because we can't trust a site that first say BTW sold 8 Million and two weeks later say it is 5 million. Mediatraffic is not a reliable source but their total are not far from the reality and BTW sales are around 4.6 million. I really don't trust Digital Spy and we should remove it until we find another relieble source.--Albes29 (talk) 17:12, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Increase sales figure Born This Way
{{edit semi-protected}} The sales figure for Born This Way (album) should be changed from 5 million to 8 million. Lady Gaga tweeted on the 23rd June that the figures were at 5 million. Several sources claim that 7-8 million is the appropriate number: http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/225749/20111005/lady-gaga-biopic.htm "We’re at 7.2 million albums, within a 90-day time span. So that’s very, very substantial." Troy Carter http://adage.com/article/special-report-digital-west/gaga-s-manager-troy-carter-music-tech/229863/ Interview with Carter The 5 millions sales figure was from June, it needs to be changed.
Wikiwiki788 (talk) 05:46, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but as of now I can't see any place where it says 5 million - maybe it's already been changed? If not...if I missed something, please add the request again and say exactly where it needs changing. Thanks, Chzz ► 07:28, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
7 million sales are not confirmed by official organizations, like RIAA and others, so it should not be listed here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.134.219.229 (talk • contribs) 20:30, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Billboard says BTW the album has sold 1.9 million in the USA http://www.billboard.com/#/news/casting-crowns-scores-top-billboard-200-1005437632.story — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.186.228.9 (talk) 04:39, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Who changed the sales again? Lol, BORN THIS WAY never sold 7,200,000 copies. It got still sales between 4,5 and 5 million sales. stop change it, the points don't gettin better in real when you make 7 million sales out of it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cason 14 (talk • contribs) 14:00, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
- Lady Gaga's manager is not a reliable source for sales figures. Seriously, are you kidding me?[1] -- Frous (talk) 11:59, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- From which source did the earlier worldwide sales figures come from? I mean, those that are reported by some "reliable" source such as her label or her manager or such... -- Frous (talk) 12:02, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
Make Her Say
in this link, the uk singles chart, lady gaga is credited as featuring on the song make her say (she sings a acoustic version of poker face in the song) should we not list the song on her discography page?? --91.154.106.236 (talk) 17:40, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
- She's not credited as a featured artist on the Kid Cudi album. They sample her song, nothing more. It shouldn't be here. –Chase (talk / contribs) 19:44, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
- Same case as Rihanna's Cheers I would say. Decodet (talk) 23:41, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
Certifications
You And I is Gold in Astralia... Source = ARIA
Please add! --79.199.62.117 (talk) 11:46, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
Born This Way (Album) is Platinum in the USA. Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/lady-gaga-born-platinum/story?id=13733360#.TsGmyoBcLpU — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.176.146.142 (talk • contribs) 23:43, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- A report by ABC that Nielsen SoundScan says it sold 1.1 million is not the same as the RIAA actually awarding a certification. Wait until the RIAA DB supports the platinum claim. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 01:37, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Sales in Canada
The Fame is certified 7X Platinum in Canada which - according to the CRIA - means there's been 560,000 units sold. But in the "sales" section its only listed as 476,000 units. The same goes with Born This Way, it's certified 3X Platinum in Canada which means there's been 240,000 units sold but only listed as 93,000 units. I'm confused, can someone help me out? - Christianrxx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christianrxx (talk • contribs) 00:10, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
- CRIA certifications does not mean "sold", it means the label "shipped" so-and-so amount of copies. And the sales are listed to the last available reliable source backing them up, so they could be out of date. — Legolas (talk2me) 02:19, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, okay! Thanks - I understand. - Christianrxx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christianrxx (talk • contribs) 16:44, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
Adding Japan
I was wondering if we could add Japan to the peak chart positions and certifications on the page. Gaga is big in Japan - Christianrxx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christianrxx (talk • contribs) 21:19, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
- These 10 charts were selected after much discussions and consensus. I think they are fine as it is. — Legolas (talk2me) 03:15, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
Marry The Night
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Marry The Night is No. 80 in AUS. Source=ARIA Please add! --79.199.40.25 (talk) 16:28, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- Not done Please provide an url showing that the song is at the specified position. — Legolas (talk2me) 16:50, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
Red and Blue
Lady Gaga's first EP Red and Blue which is released in 2006 should be included in the discography. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GEARREX (talk • contribs) 03:09, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
- Not an official release and not released as Lady Gaga. — Legolas (talk2me) 05:04, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
Unreleased Material
Lady Gaga talks about her unreleased material and mentions some like 'Second Time Around' and 'blueberry kisses' which was talked about in the background for her single Poker Face (Lady Gaga song) ... main point is that she has so many unreleased songs, how come they are not mentioned or listed as its own separate page like List of unreleased Michael Jackson material or List of unreleased Britney Spears songs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevie Kay (talk • contribs) 19:37, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Please Reply And Respond to This & Please try to atleast create a page for her Thanks! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevie Kay (talk • contribs) 23:36, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
GUYS!!!! COME ON!!!!! I'VE ASKED FOR THIS GOD KNOWS HOW LONG AGO & I STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN A RESPONSE......WHY?!?!!?!?!!? IT SEEMS REASONABLE TO MAKE ONE SO WHY CAN'T WE?????? COME ONE GUYS..... THAT'S ALL I WANT.......... Stevie Kay (talk) 21:15, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
WHAT THE HELL MAN!!!!! Someone respond to this, like this is something totally needed!!!!! people will want to know songs that are unreleased by not only lady gaga, but also eminem, katy perry, beyonce, ke$ha, and jason derulo; among others too they'll want thier unreleased songs to be known about too so why cant it be done!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevie Kay (talk • contribs) 21:07, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
I love your idea, why don't you find few articles first then we make a page for it. Also, it's better if the song that will be listed is more than maybe 20 songs and please no Youtube link as it unreliable. After that, we'll just see if the Wikipedia's people will accept it or not. Okay. :) -Syukri Abd Rahman (talk) 06:06, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
http://ladygaga.wikia.com/wiki/Lady_Gaga www.azlyrics.com/l/ladygaga.html
these 2 have all the information on the unreleased or leaked songs by lady gaga & out of curiosity..... why cant we use youtube as a source? Stevie Kay (talk) 22:45, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
I don't think ladygaga.wikia is acceptable because many people have access to edit it so it may be unreliable and YouTube is unacceptable because people can cheat by saying it's Gaga the one who sings it.
For example:
Silly Boy : They said this song was sang by Gaga featuring Rihanna but the real artist was Eva Simons.
Optimist : The voice was Nicole Scherzinger voice, not Gaga.
So I hope you understand....BUT WITH ONE EXCEPTIONAL...The video/reference must come from reliable channel. For example:
Lady Gaga Official Channel
Lady Gaga VEVO Channel
Lady Gaga's Label Official Channel
So if you want to find a source about Lady Gaga unreleased materials. I can give you three songs with reliable references:
Stuck On Fuckin' You :
YouTube - LadyGagaOfficial's Channel
Facebook [Information about the song and Gaga sharing the song]
Billboard
Idolator
Take You Out :
Facebook
Idolator
The Improper
and Lady Gaga unreleased COVER with The Midway State
Don't Give Up :
Idolator
Spinner
We Are Pop Slags
--Syukri Abd Rahman (talk) 09:57, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Dance in the Dark was not a single
Dance in the Dark was not a single!!! Is a promotional single. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HC 5555 (talk • contribs) 20:17, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
Germany
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Born This Way is Platinum in Germany... Please add! http://www.musikindustrie.de/gold_platin_datenbank/#topSearch --93.229.107.94 (talk) 19:18, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
- Already done — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 00:54, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 9 January 2012
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According to the year-end world albums chart, Born this was has sold 5,400,000 copies worldwide http://thatgrapejuice.net/2011/12/adele-rihanna-beyonce-dominate-worldwide-year-chart/
Change 8,000,000 to 5,400,000
68.79.94.225 (talk) 02:15, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
- Not done Unreliable sources like thatgrapejuice.net cannot be considered. — Legolas (talk2me) 04:19, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Born This Way - Studio Album Singles
Firstly why has the WW sales of Born This Way been reduced to 6 million when it clearly states 8 million in the information about the album UK 2x Platinum certification needed as 821,000 copies sold, also the singles UK Platinum certification needed for Born this way as "2011 in british Music - Top 20 singles" shows 600,000 sales meaning platinum certification need --> based on sales. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LukeChad (talk • contribs) 01:11, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
- Remember this thing: Certifications have to be applied by the record company to BPI/RIAA/IFPI to get it. Its not automatically updated. Interscope has been too lousy to get Gaga's certifications updated in the UK. Also the worldwide sales vandalism has been reverted. — Legolas (talk2me) 05:26, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
best selling artist? of all time?
the article states " As of October 2011, she has sold an estimated 23 million albums and 64 million singles worldwide,[1] which makes her one of the best-selling music artists of all time." This is a very powerful statemnt, but judging from the data in this wiki there are at least a dozen artists who have sold double or triple or quadruple her "album" amount. so this is misleading and biased.
and I love lady gaga :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.228.222.254 (talk) 23:56, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
lady is a tramp
isnt lady is a tramp a single?? somone has removed it, can somone put it back.
--91.154.107.36 (talk) 14:38, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Dance In The Dark is not a single!
Dance In The Dark is only promo single and was realised only in Belgium, France and Australia. Please, change this! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.105.227.57 (talk) 17:39, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Born This Way worldwide sales
Since nobody thinks same way, removing Born This Way worldwide sales is best thing to do. — 78.127.30.84 (talk) 13:01, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Gaga also charts well in Scotland
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Lady Gaga always seems to chart higher on the Scottish Singles Chart than on the UK Singles Chart. Although the SSC is one of the OCC's charts, it would be helpful to add the chart positions of the SSC in the discography? As it is included in most discographies now.
RyuMacky (talk) 19:42, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Hi RyuMacky. Thanks for the suggestion. However, I'm not entirely clear on what exact change you'd like to make. Could you be more specific? (i.e. Please add this text (X) to this area of the article (Y)). If you need any further assistance, please feel free to re-enable the requested edit template. Thanks! — Jess· Δ♥ 00:45, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Remix Albums
The Remix & Born This Way: The Remix are remix albums not compilation albums. A compilation album releases songs in there original recording. These albums release remixed tracks. Even there articles call them remix albums. LurganShmith (talk) 00:23, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Ireland
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Please add that Born This Way is 2x Platinum in Ireland http://www.irishcharts.ie/awards/multi_platinum11.htm --79.199.34.12 (talk) 16:55, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Already done Celestra (talk) 00:34, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
adding japan
Can we consider replacing Austria, a smaller country, with Japan, a bigger country? Gaga is huge in Japan: The Fame certified million, The Fame Monster 2X platinum with 577,000 copies sold, and Born This Way 3X Platinum with 658,554 copies sold. --Christianrxx (talk) 21:43, 21 April 2012 (UTC)Christianrxx
- Support? Oppose? --Christianrxx (talk) 17:29, 25 April 2012 (UTC)Christianrxx
I definitely support Japan being added. there are a lot of European contries represented, so an Asian country should also be added to give a better picture of 'worldwide' success. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.186.228.9 (talk) 06:29, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
- YES, that is a great point! Thank you! Anyone else? --Christianrxx (talk) 13:37, 26 April 2012 (UTC)Christianrxx
Let's get some more feedback on this!!! --Christianrxx (talk) 19:51, 5 May 2012 (UTC)christianrxx
Born This Way Sales (Mediatraffic.de)
In the 2012 the album sold about 400.000 copies (I controlled on Mediatraffic.de, that reports all the sales week to week) So, in 2011 Mediatraffic counts 5.400.000 million copies sold. This site controls just the Digital Download, if we take in consideration also the Physical sales, I think that we can surely reach the 8.000.000 or less. It's just a supposition. But it's sure that a minimum of 6.000.000 are sold. (Sorry for the bad english, but I'm italian) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Camix95 (talk • contribs) 10:23, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Born This Way Sales
"Born This Way" has not sold 8,000,000 copies worldwide but 4,851,000 copies to be exact. The link reference that announces 8,000,000 is totally wrong. 109.13.203.99 (talk) 20:34, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- Are you sure it isn't 4,851,001 copies (to be exact)? How can you sure? How can we know? Whom should we ask? — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 23:40, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- Because sales have been counting each week since it came out and it does not give 8,000,000 at all, but 4,851,000. For example, "Born This Way" has sold ~35,000 copies last week. But I will let you do the thing you think is the better. 109.13.203.99 (talk) 02:54, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- I only think that relying on published sources is more reliable than what sounds like somebody trying to keep track with a pencil and notepad next to their computer. The point I was trying to make (perhaps a little too subtly or rudely; sorry) was that reliable sources we can cite are preferable to original research. Where do you get the exact number 4,851,000? — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 09:42, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- John, that IP got it from Mediatraffic, a source which is deemed unreliable and a WP:BADCHART by the community, since they do not have any basis of their charts and sales info, its purely fabricated. — Legolas (talk2me) 10:07, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- But it sure sounds exact, doesn't it? Thanks, Legolas. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 10:16, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- Exactly, no worldwide sales can be that exact. Its more of an estimate, with /- 10% I guess. — Legolas (talk2me) 10:18, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- Why wouldn't 8 million copies be the correct figure? International business times is a reliable source — Christianrxx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christianrxx (talk • contribs) 13:57, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- Even when you take sales from each country, you don't get 8,000,000; 5,300,000 max. (PS: I am 109.13.203.99. I am not authed here cuz my Wikipedia username is already taken on the English version.) 109.10.39.223 (talk) 17:57, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- But I don't take sales from each country; that's the job of music industry journalists and analysts. If I do it it, it's original research, which doesn't help us here. You wouldn't want to rely on my figures, would you? I mean, what do I know? And what do you know about my reliability?
- And so we come to you questioning my methodology (as surely you should). Where should I get the "sales from each country"? How do I know the numbers are complete? Are the sales in Argentina included? Japan? India? South Africa? Everywhere? Probably not; that means I might come up with some too-small number (like 5,300,000, for example), instead of the actual worldwide total (which might be, oh, around eight million). But it's not our job to add up sales; we only report what seems reliably sourced data. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 23:43, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- Even when you take sales from each country, you don't get 8,000,000; 5,300,000 max. (PS: I am 109.13.203.99. I am not authed here cuz my Wikipedia username is already taken on the English version.) 109.10.39.223 (talk) 17:57, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- Why wouldn't 8 million copies be the correct figure? International business times is a reliable source — Christianrxx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christianrxx (talk • contribs) 13:57, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- Exactly, no worldwide sales can be that exact. Its more of an estimate, with /- 10% I guess. — Legolas (talk2me) 10:18, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- But it sure sounds exact, doesn't it? Thanks, Legolas. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 10:16, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- John, that IP got it from Mediatraffic, a source which is deemed unreliable and a WP:BADCHART by the community, since they do not have any basis of their charts and sales info, its purely fabricated. — Legolas (talk2me) 10:07, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- I only think that relying on published sources is more reliable than what sounds like somebody trying to keep track with a pencil and notepad next to their computer. The point I was trying to make (perhaps a little too subtly or rudely; sorry) was that reliable sources we can cite are preferable to original research. Where do you get the exact number 4,851,000? — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 09:42, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- Because sales have been counting each week since it came out and it does not give 8,000,000 at all, but 4,851,000. For example, "Born This Way" has sold ~35,000 copies last week. But I will let you do the thing you think is the better. 109.13.203.99 (talk) 02:54, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- Wow, 8 million sure seems to be an inflated figure. Judging, from the fact that this album tumbled down so many charts after the release of Y&I, 8 million is simply too much. It has not even reached 2 million in the US and it is out of the iTunes top 100. It is not doing so well in the UK as well, it recently jumped a lot there considering GaGa performed on X-Factor. Nevertheless, it depends, did the album sell 8 million or ship that amount? If this is true, i will have to say that Adele should be at 18 million then. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 10:29, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, Jivesh, I'll see your Adele at 18 million, and I'll raise to Perry Como at 43 million. Who else is still in? Or should we deal another hand? — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 12:33, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
- Lol, John, you made me drop my tea. Jivesh, John is right. Our core policy in WP is to report what third party verifiable and reliable sources has stated. We canNOT add our own interpretation anywhere. I'm not saying this because I edit Gaga's articles. I'm saying this to point out that peopel are missing our policies probably, which is exactly what John is pointing out. And as I have said countless times, don't even take into consideration what random IPs say about sales. That all comes from Mediatraffic.de and another foul website (I forgot the name). This traffic is all due to teh fan-boys at UKMix and Pulsemusic. — Legolas (talk2me) 12:38, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
- Okay. So it means the album has really old 8 million? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:52, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
- No. It means that because a reliable source wrote this, we do not have the power to veto it simply because it does not make sense to us. In reality, the album is probably around 5-6 shipped, with sold being under 5. As for Adele, 21 is probably at a nice 14 million copies already, bless her.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 12:58, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
- This is certainly one of the things i hate on Wikipedia. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 13:06, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
- Yes well, unfortunately, Wikipedia runs on Verifiability over Truth, so that can at times be frustrating to veteran editors who know what they are talking about. Alas, the only way above it are other contrary sources and/or consensus.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 13:19, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
- This is certainly one of the things i hate on Wikipedia. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 13:06, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
- No. It means that because a reliable source wrote this, we do not have the power to veto it simply because it does not make sense to us. In reality, the album is probably around 5-6 shipped, with sold being under 5. As for Adele, 21 is probably at a nice 14 million copies already, bless her.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 12:58, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
- Okay. So it means the album has really old 8 million? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:52, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
- Lol, John, you made me drop my tea. Jivesh, John is right. Our core policy in WP is to report what third party verifiable and reliable sources has stated. We canNOT add our own interpretation anywhere. I'm not saying this because I edit Gaga's articles. I'm saying this to point out that peopel are missing our policies probably, which is exactly what John is pointing out. And as I have said countless times, don't even take into consideration what random IPs say about sales. That all comes from Mediatraffic.de and another foul website (I forgot the name). This traffic is all due to teh fan-boys at UKMix and Pulsemusic. — Legolas (talk2me) 12:38, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, Jivesh, I'll see your Adele at 18 million, and I'll raise to Perry Como at 43 million. Who else is still in? Or should we deal another hand? — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 12:33, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
So it's official from Billboard.com that Born this way sold over 8 million units. Can't believe it by myself cause the five big markets have sold so less units (US 2.100.000, UK 900.000, GER 200.000, CAN 100.000, FRA 200.00) So all together roundabout 3,5 Million Units. Where has come the other 4.5 Million Sales?? But Billboard is a proper source. .--MontyPhyton 21:47, 9. January 2012 —Preceding undated comment added 20:50, 9 January 2012 (UTC).
- No, Billboard just report what they get from her company or other newspapers. The only fully reliable source is the IFPI (and it says about 5 mil) and the World Chart (same- 5 mil). This article is a joke and it should not be so biassed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.28.138.15 (talk) 22:32, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Considering the amount of mistakes in general articles I read on the internet (journalism these days is very sloppy and lazy) then I weep for the future when we take VERIFIBILITY over obvious truth. the 5 - 5.5 sales figure has been banded about for months, I have never seen this '8 million' and if Billboard said it, they made a mistake, which is annoying as it now means Gaga's wiki page is glaringly wrong on a very big and important fact. The sophomore album is massively important for any big artist and the CORRECT sales figures are very important for music history!. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.186.228.9 (talk) 05:40, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Guys, Gaga don't sell 23 million on the USA or 60 million WW.--Luisrafael7 (talk) 22:59, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Why am I unable to add the Japanese information for her album sales? Japan should be taken very seriously in this department, since it's one of the largest music markets in the world (CDs are much more expensive in Japan and still sell quite a lot). I posted sources with all the information I included, but it seems to have been rejected. Born This Way has sold more albums in Japan than everywhere except for US and UK with 658,000 copies. Source: http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/special/2011/musicrank1219/index03.html Cheeto914 (talk) 21:36, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
True it dropped out of the World Chart with about % million. Thw whole of this article is biassed and 'promotional' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.28.138.15 (talk) 22:29, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Billboard is definitely not a reliable source. I already saw them inflate sales just like here with Beyoncé's I Am... Sasha Fierce. They said it had sold at 1,6 million in the UK which was wrong; it was 1,4 in June 2011. Gaga fans, I respect you love her —I love her— but stop inflating sales. 109.15.46.23 (talk) 01:48, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
You considered the US, CAN, UK, but what about Asian sales? In Japan Born This Way sold 1.000.000 copies, and in Asia Lady Gaga has too many fans (just considering the 50.000 in Jakarta), there are so many regions that are full of fans. So, we can not say that the album sold 4.5, I'm pretty sure that the copies sold can reach 8.000.000 or less, it's a big number, but the copies sold aren't less that Seven Millions — Preceding unsigned comment added by Camix95 (talk • contribs) 10:29, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Dance In The Dark And Eh Eh
Dance In The Dark is not official single is only promotional single which was realise in Belgium (Novembert 9, 2009), Australia (July 26, 2010) and France (August 25, 2010). The same with Eh, Eh (Nothing Else I Can Say) is only promotional single, realised in some countries in Europe and in Australia and New Zealand. Please, change these in discography! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.105.227.57 (talk) 19:19, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Born This Way
1) 'Born This Way' the album has not sold the amount listed in the UK :S 2) 'Born This Way' the single sold 625,000 copies in the UK, so should it not be certified as Platinum? http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/the-top-20-biggest-selling-singles-of-2011-revealed/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.251.100.196 (talk) 08:01, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
in answer to 2 the certification is different in each country depending on population in the UK for a single it is 600k and for an album it is 300k for platinum. for gold it is 400k for single and 100k for album and 200k for silver and 60k for album the UK is the only place that has a silver certification Mikala19 (talk) 14:09, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Unusually low sales on Albums
Hello, someone has obviously changed Gaga's album sales numbers as The Fame has certainly sold over 500,000 copies worldwide and Born This Way has sold well above 250,000. Please can someone revert these back to the original numbers. Thanks --SNTMcentral (talk) 23:49, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Born This Way Sales
The sold copies of the album BTW in 2011 are 6,8 million http://www.vivendi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/20120330_Annual_Report_2011-2.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Camix95 (talk • contribs) 08:23, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Adding "US Dance" to Singles Chart...
Would it be a good idea to add a column in the singles chart to show the peak position of her singles in the US Hot Dance/Club Songs Chart? I only suggest this because all 12 of her singles have reached #1 on that chart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThisGuyTony (talk • contribs) 23:58, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
Yes it would. Someone should add it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.38.160.204 (talk) 02:31, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
It wouldn't be a particularly good idea, because in order to add that to the table formatting, you'd be required to remove the chart info of another country. Would that be a better thing, as opposed to just adding "twelve No. 1's on the US Hot Dance/Club Songs Chart" along with a source in the intro? Homeostasis07 (talk) 01:14, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
I think you should add a column with the US Hot Dance Songs Chart - JJS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.38.160.204 (talk) 15:21, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Beautiful, Dirty, Rich
Beautiful, Dirty, Rich is listed as a single but it was a promotional single.. Shouldn't it be moved to the promo single section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mintblonde (talk • contribs) 23:24, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
4X Platinum in Canada
Born this Way's hit 4x Platinum within Canada as of 13th Febuary 2013.
Here is a link: http://inagist.com/all/302175264220270592/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Talenthiel (talk • contribs) 23:57, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
Adding Japan!
Japan really needs to be added to Gaga's discography. I'm aware that we can only have ten countries on the page that can represent sales and certifications. So, I propose we replace Ireland (a smaller country) with Japan (a much bigger country). I have several reason as to why I believe Ireland should be replaced with Japan.
1) We currently have six European countries being represented: Austria, France, Germany, Ireland, Switzerland, and the UK. Replacing Ireland with an Asian country would give a better picture of Gaga's 'worldwide' success.
2) According to IFPI 2010 data Japan is the largest music market in the world; while Ireland is only the 26th largest. It makes more sense to have the bigger music markets represented versus the smaller ones.
3) We have more data (sales figures and certifications) for Japan than we do for Ireland. Although we have certifications for both countries in studio albums, however, we don't have any single certifications from Ireland. Here's the data we have for Japan; "Just Dance" - Gold, "Poker Face" - Platinum, "Bad Romance" - Gold, "Telephone" - Gold, "Born This Way" - Platinum, "Judas" - Gold, "The Edge of Glory" - Gold. We have album sales figures from Japan - The Fame Monster with 577,000 copies sold and Born This Way with 658,554 copies sold - but there's nothing we have from Ireland.
I know that much discussion about this topic has led to a consensus but I think it's time for a change; and there's nothing wrong with change, right? Does anybody support or oppose this? Feedback would be greatly appreciated :) --Christianrxx (talk)
I'd like to add that Born This Way is one of the only 3 non-japanese songs to top the japan hot 100 and I'm pretty sure her other songs chart high over there too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.59.47.51 (talk) 05:57, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
Cake Like Lady Gaga
shouldn't it be in the special release section? it already has it's own page too — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.59.47.51 (talk) 05:59, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
Malware Link Removal
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Worldwide Born This Way Sales
According to Billboard, which is a VERY reliable source, Born This Way has sold over 8,000,000 worldwide as of October 2011. Please add this information, Thanks.
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/41681/lady-gaga-named-aps-entertainer-of-the-year — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.140.79 (talk) 14:27, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- This is difficult; Billboard is indeed reliable, but more recently published (2012) sources [2][3] say "nearly 6 million". I think that is why two citations are given to the 6 million figure. Adabow (talk) 21:24, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- Those are true more updated sources, but the only problem is that artists' own websites aren't always the best for sources and ticket sale websites aren't very great of sources either. Out of those three sources, Billboard is probably the most trustworthy (it might not be the most recent) but it is the most reliable of the three. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.140.79 (talk) 04:24, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
- It probably is, and it has the backing of Nielsen's measurement services to provide an independent analysis.—Kww(talk) 23:21, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
- How curious. We'll go with Billboard then. Out of curiosity, does Nielsen SS have access to worldwide data? Adabow (talk) 05:46, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- I'd be lying if I said I knew the details of the contracts between Billboard and Nielsen. I think we can trust Billboard not to make up numbers, though.—Kww(talk) 05:49, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- I'm on the fence here tbh. My mind says that Born This Way has not passed 8 million global sales, but I cannot ignore reliable source like Billboard also, the alma mater of music articles. Curious though, have we tried finding out if the Billboard report is not a mirror from any other website? —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 10:40, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- Jake Coyle, an AP writer, gets the byline. He's a listed contributor at Billboard.—Kww(talk) 19:24, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
- Hmm that makes sense then. Billboard would not report a mirror anyways though. We can put it up. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 18:35, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
- Jake Coyle, an AP writer, gets the byline. He's a listed contributor at Billboard.—Kww(talk) 19:24, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
- I'm on the fence here tbh. My mind says that Born This Way has not passed 8 million global sales, but I cannot ignore reliable source like Billboard also, the alma mater of music articles. Curious though, have we tried finding out if the Billboard report is not a mirror from any other website? —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 10:40, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- The issue I have with the Nielsen measurement services rationale is that the Billboard source doesn't suggest or even indicate that the 8 million figure is Nielsen SoundScan-confirmed. I don't ever recall coming across a Nielsen-confirmed worldwide sales figure for an individual album. It's doubtful that they're given access to any such material, aside from the kind of raw data they release every year. Oricon have access to sales figures in Japan only. The Official Charts Company, Music Week and the BPI have access to sales statistics from the UK. BMVI in Germany, etc. I've never come across any of these organisations reporting in detail on sales figures from another territory. There'd be exclusivity issues in doing so: each of these organisations have paid huge sums for the technology and licences to enable SoundScan in their home territories, and they often charge their own members for access to this info. The RIAJ or IFPI wouldn't allow Billboard to swipe their stats for nothing, so worldwide sharing is fairly unlikely. The point being: Billboard is no more a credible source for worldwide album sales than Oricon, or OCC, or BMVI, etc. Homeostasis07 (talk) 19:51, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
- I'd be lying if I said I knew the details of the contracts between Billboard and Nielsen. I think we can trust Billboard not to make up numbers, though.—Kww(talk) 05:49, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- How curious. We'll go with Billboard then. Out of curiosity, does Nielsen SS have access to worldwide data? Adabow (talk) 05:46, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- It probably is, and it has the backing of Nielsen's measurement services to provide an independent analysis.—Kww(talk) 23:21, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
- Those are true more updated sources, but the only problem is that artists' own websites aren't always the best for sources and ticket sale websites aren't very great of sources either. Out of those three sources, Billboard is probably the most trustworthy (it might not be the most recent) but it is the most reliable of the three. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.140.79 (talk) 04:24, 24 August 2013 (UTC)