Talk:Fiji/Archive 1
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Fiji Water
If water is so negligible then how can they export all those bottle water, Fiji Water?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.218.32.157 (talk) 17:43, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Old talk
Does the word Indian in this article refer to people from India or to those of a more native heritage to Fiji? Kingturtle 07:18 Mar 28, 2003 (UTC)
- People from India. The political turmoil in Fiji under George Speight was due more or less to racial tensions between native Fijians and Indian immigrants (see History of Fiji). - Hephaestos
The Indian refers to those people who are of Fijian Nationality but Indian race. (Indian as at the time of coming to Fiji, India, Parkistan and Bangla Desh were one country.) They mainly came to Fiji as indentured labourers over 100 years ago. Few freely consented to the indenture and it was really little better than slavery. In the last 100 years they have settled, farmed and traded helping build Fiji's prosperity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.170.45.59 (talk) 03:29, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm rather curious as to whether there have been any attempts to restore the monarchy in Fiji? It seems that there should at least be a referendum on it, considering the circumstances that led to the country becoming a Republic SoLando 05:48, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- No, there have been no serious attempts to restore the monarchy, although some members of the Great Council of Chiefs suggested the idea when the Constitution was revised in 1996-1997. It is curious that even though it was extremist Fijian nationalists that proclaimed the republic, support for restoring the monarchy has come almost entirely from the Great Council of Chiefs, which 'still' recognizes Queen Elizabeth II as its Paramount Chief, but subordinate to the country's republican institutions, a position that she has apparently not repudiated. Parties representing the Indo-Fijian community, as well as the non-chiefly classes of ethnic Fijians, pushed strongly for the retention of the republic. It has to be recognized that Fiji's constitution was revised at a time when republican sentiment in Australia, with which Fiji has close ties, was at its zenith.
- Interestingly, it was Indo-Fijian politicians like R. D. Patel and Sidiq Koya who first pushed for a republic back in the 1960s, whereas Fijian chiefs like Ratu Sir Kamisese Mara opposed it. When Sitiveni Rabuka seized power in 1987, he initially had no intention of abolishing the monarchy, and did so only when it became clear that it stood in the way of his objectives.
- Although some members of the Great Council of Chiefs wanted to restore the monarchy, the majority recognized that too much water had flowed under the bridge, and that there would be little point in going back. At any rate, the monarchy had failed to prevent a commoner like Rabuka from seizing power - initially in the name of the chiefs, but gradually trying to upstage them subsequently. Indo-Fijians, who had never fully supported the monarchy in the first place, felt that their doubts about it were confirmed by its failure to prevent the 1987 coup which trampled on their rights and imposed an apartheid-like system of discrimination against them. Neither side, apart from a minority of mostly aging Fijian chiefs, saw any point in turning back the clock. Davidcannon 09:54, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)
'Democracy' in Fiji
The article talks about the 'restoration of democracy'...is it really democratic when every time your ethnic group loses the election you overthrow the government?
- No, it's not democratic to do that. Elections are judged to be free and fair only if your own ethnic group wins. To some extent, both sides have been guilty of this, in my opinion (which doesn't belong in the article). David Cannon 11:34, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
There have been Discussions online and in Fiji on the in-ability of Fijian chiefs and the institution of Great Council of Chiefs to arrest the growing problems for their own people. Fijians own 80% of the land, yet have not enjoyed any degree of social mobility. This has created alot of animosity on the landowners perspective. There have been reports of the erosion of Fijian lanuage and culture. Yet the Ministry of Fijian Affairs has not focussed much on culture but props up the chiefly system. What is more important in Fiji, the culture or the institutions?
Fiji blog on current affairs addresses these socio-cultural. socio-political trains of thoughts.
Is this a new paradigm in Fiji politics?
History
Strongly suggest you discount Michener as a reliable and accurate source, as an historian Michener made an excellent novelist!!
The original Vitians were NOT Polynesian, they were Melanesian, arriving from the north-west not from the east. The Polynesian input to the population came later, possibly much later. The very distinctive difference in physical appearance (and language) between that prevalent in the central-southern highlands of Viti-levu (eg Nadroga) and that prevalent in the Lau island group, is because of the heavy Tongan (polynesian) impact in Lau. (and by degrees most coastal areas). The much darker skin, the more compact but very strong wiry frame, endemic to the rugged less accessible interior of Viti-Levu, are typical of the Solomons, New Guinea etc.
The widely accepted (and still maintained by the historians establishment)explainations of Polynesian migration based on a west to east model have always had problems accounting for this and other inconvenient details. Recent DNA studies now support an alternative model of migration from east asia, via Alaska, Canada, Hawaii etc. That is from the east/north-east of Fiji.
Archaeological record places Melanesian settlement in Viti at least 3000 years ago.
Cannibalism in Fiji existed and occured well before any contact with white men, pirates or otherwise. Making a connection between the commencement of cannibalism and contact with white men is just pure fantasy on Micheners part (or anyone elses). Perhaps he needed to blame somebody to preserve some romantic fantasy he indulged himself in?
The Vitians were very ferocious warriors and were known to go on raiding parties as far afield as Tonga to acquire among other things "long pig". Bigredtoe (talk) 00:57, 20 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigredtoe (talk • contribs) 00:53, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
- I'm curious as to when the first Asians actually arrived in Fiji. Was it thousands of years ago, or just hundreds? I'm writing a paper on the place, so the best estimation would be nice.
Fijians first came from Polynesia thousands of years ago. Tracing back to Asia would be alot further back, although there are no reliable estimates.
Here, Asians came to fiji about thousands of years before, however left due to discrimmintational policies from fijian officials, and returned in the 1900's, when were "colonised" by the British.
'***'
As gently as I can... James Michener writes in his book Return to Paradise that as a reaction to European pirates, Fiji went ferociously cannibal for a century or two, and that only fairly persistent Christian missionary work turned them back around. Is it true and is there some academically more suitable reference?
Michener also says some fairly harsh things about the Indians who had colonized Fiji in his day.
national bird
What is Fiji's national bird?
- I don't believe there is such a thing as a 'national bird' or 'national animal' or any sort of national symbol that is formally recognised by the government except for the flag, the coat of arms and the 'tabua' as stated in the government's official website. Of course, Rugby has been the de facto national sport for a long time now. Although, if I remember correctly, the flower 'tagimoucia' was regarded as the 'national flower'. I'll look it up. Erehtsti 14:16, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- well we dont have a National bird but an Animal that is endemic to fiji is the Crested Iguanawhich is the pride oof our country like the kiwi bird is to New Zealand and the Wallaby is to Australia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cometstyles (talk • contribs) 05:25, 9 December 2006 (UTC).
The kula bird is Fiji's national bird. An Eco park is also dedicated to it and other animals both of local and foreign origin called "The Kula Eco Park".
rokothoko not correct pronounciation either
Rokocoko pronounced rokothoko?
not really, most people would pronounce rokothoko with the voiceless dental fricative, its actually pronounced with the voiced dental fricative.
shouldn't we use IPA instead of english approximations for the pronounciation of Fijian words?
- I agree in principle, but the problem is that many readers would not know the IPA. David Cannon 22:57, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
- this has been discussed at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:International_Phonetic_Alphabet#Mixed_feelings_about_IPA
- further elaborated at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(pronunciation)
- i think this discussion has settled it, IPA is a pain in the proverbial but the alternative is inaccuracy and misinterpretation. If I can quote "Ad-hoc pronunciation guides are discouraged. Forms such as "pro-NUN-see-AY-shun" can be read in different ways by people who speak different international variants of English, or whose first language isn't English."
- this one is particularly good:
- It's little bit as though you were saying, "ordinary people don't get the metric system, and they don't have time to learn about them on Wikipedia, so we should use ad hoc descriptions like 'it's about as long as your leg' instead of 'it measures 1 metre'."
- The only problem is i have to learn IPA as well!
- --Xorkl000 11:45, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
I would like to know some of the business customs of the country because i am doing research on it in tech,( if anyone knows any references that would be nice) OK
844 islands - reference?
This is the first i've heard of such a number - 300 odd is the number that i've been hearing all my life, and is the number taucht in schools etc.
Are we including islets to get such a number - if so i think we should revert to the 322 number.
--Xorkl000 07:19, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
- Hi there! I've got two sources this one and also this one - it was the second one on which I based my edit. If it is wrong, I'm happy for you to revert to 322. David Cannon 09:52, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
- The WWF pdf makes it clear - the 844 number includes islets, so the decision to revert depends one view on whether islets should be counted as islands, i vote no, but what is the general practise around here on this? --Xorkl000 03:56, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you for pointing out that it includes islets - I should have read the page more carefully before quoting it. I don't think there is any clear distinction on Wikipedia between islands and islets. Or to put it another way, the general practice seems to recognize that such a distinction exists, but is unclear on where the line of demarcation is. I have no clear mind of my own about it either. If Fiji "officially" counts 322 islets, I now think Wikipedia should recognize that, but point out that there are numerous other islets. May I tentatively propose the following wording: The country occupies an archipelago of about 322 islands, of which 106 are permanently inhabited; in addition, there are some 522 islets.
- sounds good to me --Xorkl000 06:09, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi everyone. I've got in front of me a Fiji Islands Free Visitor Guide 2005 Edition which seems to be endorsed by the Fiji Visitors Bureau (its got their logo and info in the front). It states in two different places that the number of islands is 333. I quote the Minister for Tourism, Hon Pita K Nacuva "We in Fiji have often been told that our 333 unspoiled islands..." and later on in the guide "Fiji's 333 islands are predominately volcanic in origin, with some smaller coral or limstone islets. Of these, only 106 are actually inhabited. At 18,333 sq km, Fiji has the greatest land mass in Polynesia". Notice that the area given is greater than that in the article also. Maybe some islands have been added to Fiji? --Jaredwiltshire 13:12, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Well, I live in Fiji and the number of 'islands' in the broadest sense of the word is 299 at high tide, and 301 and low tide. --Xava
Did the flag just go from a 'defaced pale blue British ensign' to one with a lighter shade of green? Leftist 20:29, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Um I do remember seeing it a light shade of blue a couple of days ago yeah. The colour that it is now is wrong. See http://www.fiji.gov.fj/publish/national_symbols.shtml as a reference.--Jaredwiltshire 13:15, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- I've already voiced my objection at Greentubing's user talk page. Leftist 21:40, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
I don;t agree with the colour too, I think it should be the previous colour. IMO the Fiji govt link above is not exact, e.g. the Union is of the wrong colour. My previous colouring of "sky blue", which is consistent with the other Wikipedia "sky blues", is the one found on the Fiji Civil Air ensign. It was changed due to someone's objection to it being too dark.
See my talk page for a detailed explanation.
Greentubing 21:51, 20 January 2006 (UTC) (with additions)
Get the race right !
Though the government has established that the term Indo-Fijian will refer to the Indian migrants that came to Fiji in the 1900's, this was decided by a Fijian government.
I'm a Indian citizen of Fiji, born and bred, and I find the term Indo-Fijian racially offensive. We are Indians born in Fiji. Not some Fijian race sub-category.
I will appreciate it if people stop refering to Indians as Indo-Fijians. Just because Indians are all over the world does'nt mean we have to converge into another race to make things easier.
(Fiji Indians will do fine)
- thats one view, but the facts are that it is mostly Fiji Indians/Indo Fijians/Fijians of Indian Ancestry that have created this term indo-fijian and asked to be referred as such. Brij Lal was one of the early popularisers of this word, and i think you need to spend some time reading his work and his justification behind his use of the term.
- "this was decided by a Fijian government" - well that is flat out incorrect, there has been no such decision. In fact the current government has a couple of MPs that oppose the use of this term.
- we can not let these articles become battleground for the indian vs. indo fijian debate, let us resist the temptation to get into a revert war and try to come to a concensus here.
- my own view - "Info-Fijian" seems to be the more common term in written english, in wins the google test against "Fiji Indian" by 65,000 to 18,000. Indo-Fijian clearly deliniates these people as full citizens of Fiji, while Fiji Indian implies that what we have a group of people from the subcontinent that just happen to live in Fiji. Indo-Fijian culture and society is a unique product of Fiji, and "Indo-Fijian" is the only word that captures this fact. --Xorkl000 08:36, 22 March 2006 (UTC)-
- You are completly right! The indians were brought to fiji, often forcibly against their own will, and we deserve the right ot be distinguished of our heritage, not some kaviti dominance. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kumarnator (talk • contribs) 03:04, 9 September 2006 (UTC).
- I think the point of the objection to labelling Fijians of Indian descent is found in the context "I was born...in Fiji". Born without equality. Without doubt the label Indo-Fjiian is designed to discriminate between those that are of Indian ancestry and those of indigenous Fijian ancestry. The assumption, and after 25 years living in South Pacific I have found this to be the most common objection to the term Indo-Fijian, is that Indo-Fijians are made to feel lesser than "native" Fijians. Racially lesser, in that those of the "native" ancestry should on grounds of race, and race alone, be accorded privileges over Indo-Fijians, privileges embedded in our out-dated tribal systems that defy democracy and social mobility.
Privilege based on race, supported by a controlling, self-interested tribal elite is of-course a nonesense today and serves as one of the fictions that keep the divisions that periodically erupt into these coups, alive. It is interesting to note that these divisions also exist in other Polynesian nations and that in the last census in the largest of these, New Zealand, many rejected such artificial divisions and called themselves simply "New Zealanders", as opposed to Maori or Chinese or Indian or Fijian or European New Zealanders. In time, it will dawn on others that if national cohension and peace is to be maintained then racial discrimination has to be abolished along with its supporting mechanisms and that the fears that one race will dominate over another need to be addressed in a democractic constitution that treat all the same under the law while entrenching safeguards that still ensure that cultural and indeed individual distinctiveness can flourish. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.13.163.155 (talk) 19:07, 8 December 2006 (UTC).
Britain & Fiji
In Fiji do you guys still like the British? the Queen was on TV the other nite and said she still loves Fiji and misses the lands and people so much..
--[[[User:SunderlandNation|Miller]] 15:24, 27 April 2006 (UTC)]--
Does Fiji acknowledge QEII as soverign? It seems so, but that should definetely be mentioned in the "poltics of Fiji" if so. --V. Joe 02:24, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- No. Fiji is a republic - has been since 1987. The Great Council of Chiefs continues to recognize Elizabeth as its most senior chief - a role she has never repudiated. But that is a position within Fiji's chiefly hierarchy, subordinate to the republican constitution, and does not signify any political authority, any more than her honorary citizenship of the United States gives her any political status there. Were she to visit Fiji, she would be given the seat of honour at the Great Council of Chiefs, could presumably vote as a member of the Great Council (though her vote would count for no more than those of her fellow-chiefs), and would be accorded all the respect due to the Paramount Chief. Fiji's banknotes and national motto still feature the Queen, for emotional and historical reasons : she still has the deep love of the Fijian people, from what I can gather. David Cannon 00:22, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
David, I think the question was a less techical question than the answer. There is widespread respect for the British in Fiji, we never went through an anti-colonial phase, like many other former colonies.
Umm One Sided Much?
Completely over the top with the comments on democracy and elections, something must be done.
- Exactly what comments on democracy and elections are "over the top"? Please clarify. David Cannon 10:30, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Does this article address fijian citizens as Fiji Islanders? I believe that is the correct term, as per the constitution. This term encompases all ethnic groups. The term Fijian is ambiguous in this context...ethnic group v citizenship
hi!!
Hi im kumarnator, and im sort of new to Wikipedia.However, the other day, a native fijian told me that there were no such things as "fiji indians", and that there were only indians and fijians. Anyway, i totally disagree with what he said as the so called "indian" population gave many things things to fiji, such as more than half of schools and land and finally independence through politicians such as Sidiq Koya and R.D Patel. Therefore, i believe i think that all"indians" should be indo-fijian in respect and remebrence to their massive contributions to the country ( even though many natives have stupidly forgotten)!!!!! Anyways, what do you think???? 124.184.232.70 11:02, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- what relevance is this to the article? How are these comments helpful to making it better? I'm proposing that this be deleted. --Xorkl000 09:45, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
As an outsider looking in, I have some sympathy with your opinions. Having said that, an NPOV encyclopedia like Wikipedia has no business taking sides in emotionally charged debates. Race/culture/ethnicity/ etc. is a very emotional issue - not only in Fiji. Just try calling a Scotsman an Englishman - you'd better be wearing something to protect your nose! Wikipedia policy and rules REQUIRE all articles to be strictly neutral. There's nothing wrong with QUOTING various points of view, however, provided that they are attributed to verifiable authoritative sources, and that no one point of view is promoted over any of the others. What to call Fijian citizens of Indian origin (Indo-Fijians or Fiji Indians, for example) is a case in point. David Cannon 12:43, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
hi i dont agree with that person my name is tom —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.150.121.80 (talk • contribs) 26 May 2009
Editing
I edited the article a little bit and have a couple of comments. Reference links should be place at the end of sentences if possible and not link to particular phrases. A lot of words can be deleted by writing active sentences instead of "it is documented that..." I know it sounds harsh, but please know that I do appreciate everyone who contributed to the page. Just something to keep in mind when editing. Xiner 02:39, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- very good edits --Xorkl000 07:41, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Military Dictatorship
Given reports that the military has disarmed police, set up road-blocks and restricted the movements of the Prime Minister - all after having threatened to topple the democratic government. At what time do we say that as a matter of fact Fiji is a military dictatorship? Xtra 11:57, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- It becomes a military dictatorship when the power of the military is not effectively contested. As of 1.50am, the Prime Minister remains at large so there's still hope, but I must admit it's shrinking by the hour. Three Australian warships off the coast of Fiji - and not doing a bloody thing about it ... they just came as spectators to have fun watching the unfolding tragedy. Excuse my French, but it makes me feel sick and causes me to wonder what the commonwealth and the SPF are for. David Cannon
- Nope, as of 7 PM New Zealand time (6 PM Fijian) on the 5th of december, the military and Mr. Bananarama have control of Fiji. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 222.152.101.107 (talk) 06:32, 5 December 2006 (UTC).
- "Military dictatorship" would certainly be prematurely POV at this point, as it implies a certain permanence and at this time Bainimarama's intentions are far from clear. I do however think that this incident certainly deserves its own article; perhaps somebody more knowledgeable than I could write one? VoiceOfReason 08:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- Nope, as of 7 PM New Zealand time (6 PM Fijian) on the 5th of december, the military and Mr. Bananarama have control of Fiji. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 222.152.101.107 (talk) 06:32, 5 December 2006 (UTC).
history
Why is there no history on fiji? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.139.102.182 (talk) 13:25, 7 December 2006 (UTC).
International Bans
Well when People dont know what exactly is happening in our Beautiful Country should not comment on it...Whatever Happened, Happened for a reason and Instead of trying to find out the Real reason for the Coup they start to Ban fiji from the Commonwealth and Pulling their Aid out is not the right thing to do and and these Countries must understand that this is not like the Coup of 2000 where there was Bloodshed and lives were lost but a Peaceful one.No need to Impose Bans on our Country specially trade and Sports cause you Would Only be Hurting the Grassroots People who had No Part in the Coup'. Comet Styles--Cometstyles 05:40, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- how is this relevant to improving the Fiji article? --Xorkl000 07:56, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Current government?
What is Fiji's current government...can it still be described as a Republic with the military in control or is it effectively a military dictatorship/junta now? UKWiki 17:57, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Still a bit early to call it a dictatorship/junta. The military commander has handed executive authority back to the President. (Ratu Josefa Iloilo) [1] And has since been sworn in as the new Interim Prime Minister, retaining his role as the Commander of the armed forces.[2]
- De jure, it means a lot. De facto, it means that Bainimarama's only changed his title and moved his office. The whole manoeuvre is just a shame which leaves complete power in his hands - with the added cloak of pseudo-legitimacy now that the President has formally appointed him. BTW, I downloaded the Presidential address from Fiji Television yesterday. It was very telling. While the President was liturgically reading his statement, a man in uniform (most likely Bainimarama himself) was hovering in the background. I don't think he was meant to be in the picture, but appeared in one corner of the newsreel. Hmm. I'll bet Ratu Iloilo was pressured into reading that statement. David Cannon 01:23, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Potential for Genocide raised
Rather than discuss this on several different pages, please see Talk:2006_Fijian_coup_d'état#Genocide_Potential.-gadfium 23:06, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Check out the facts and structures identified behind genocide.RoddyYoung 23:57, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- The deleted text that gadfium is trying to bury
- With Fiji's Armed forces made up of 99% Native Fijians, in a population divided approximately equally between Fijian Indian and Native Fijian, the international concern and the United Nations interest is firmly on the prevention of genocide as defined by Article 2 of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (CPPCG) adopted by the UN General Assembly in December 1948 and came into effect in January 1951. RoddyYoung 00:04, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- The deleted text that gadfium is trying to bury
- the armed forces are that way because of discrimination?
someone should add something on the discrimination of indians in fiji. are they still banned from owning land? that is like apartheid. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.30.244.211 (talk) 08:14, 11 May 2007 (UTC).
- Indians are not barred from owning land, my own landlord is Indian. I wish he'd come and fix the flyscreens and remove all his crappy furniture, but that's not relevant to this discussion, he's Indian and owns the land that I'm sitting on right now. --Xorkl000 07:45, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Pages to Update
I have added a page Rail transport in Fiji sourced from the 1988 book but any current info. would be useful. See also List of town tramway systems in Oceania with Fiji added. Hugo999 13:15, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Question?
hi i heard that fiji people used to eat human's i heard it from a girl at work that is from fiji.... is this true and how long ago did this happend? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.25.46.165 (talk) 03:47, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Take a look on Google books it has a wealth of books with varying details on Fiji as well as Cannibalism in Fiji one such book and it is free to download off Google Books is Fiji and the Fijians, it is a little lengthy but good and informative read, Vinaka, Maikeli MB 03:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Can someone please help render "Fiji Scouts Association" as well as "Be Prepared", the Scout Motto, into Fijian? Thanks! Chris 03:40, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
politics section
I think this secton should be shortened to one or two paragraphs to summarize Fiji's situation as it is covered in more detail in politics of Fiji and the 2006 Coup article, I feel the current section goes into the topic in to much detail, anyone have thoughts on the subject please advise. Vinaka, Maikeli MB (talk) 21:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Merge proposal
I think Fiji government shoulde be merged into Fiji. Nothing444Go Irish! 00:07, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- No, it's unreferenced and borderline incoherent. I think the government article should be prodded or AfD'd instead.-gadfium 06:02, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- Agree - just afd the article, or put a one sentence summary. There is nothing worth saving in it. --Merbabu (talk) 11:29, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- Article has now been redirected to Politics of Fiji. No merge is needed.-gadfium 19:03, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Geography of Fiji
Maybe someone could include some more information on the climate of the Fiji Islands. Maybe such things as the average temperature annually or monthly, how the topography of larger islands such as Viti Levu and Vanua Levu have an impact on the rainfall patterns, record temperatures and rainfall, its position in the South Pacific's cyclone belt. Things like that. Feel free to voice your opinion on this BenettonHuhera (talk) 04:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Public Health
I am trying to add a public health section under Fiji that mentions the increased prevalence rates of Type 2 Diabetes affecting the two major ethnic groups. It keeps getting rejected.
Here is what I want to add:
The two major races, Indigenous Fijians and Indo-Fijians, are both being affected by an increased prevalence rate of Type 2 Diabetes. Diabetes is now affecting approximately 15% of the Indo-Fijians and 7% of the indigenous Fijian population. According to the Ministry of Health, approximately 500 new cases of Diabetes are reported annually. The major cause of this shift is due to the change from traditional to westernized lifestyle and diet. <reference link to http://www.fijiancircle.com/health.html>
Dmakund (talk) 02:43, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- The anon who added this information initially added several links to the same web site, and it appears that their intent may have been to publicise the web site rather than the issue. A section on public health in Fiji needs to deal with all the issues of public health in the area. If you would like to write a well-referenced section on the health issues of the Fijian population, that would be most welcome.-gadfium 08:07, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
List of Members of Interim Government of Fiji installed after the 2007 Military coup of Commodore Bainimarama
1. Commodore Josaia Voreqe Bainimarama Prime Minister and Minister for Finance and National Planning, Public Service, Peoples' Charter for Change, Information, Provincial Development, Indigenous and Multi-Ethnic Affairs
Mr Parmesh Chand - Permanent Secretary, Prime Minister's Office Mr Manasa Vaniqi - Permanent Secretary, Provincial Development Mrs Taina Tagicakibau - Permanent Secretary, Public Service Ratu Meli Bainimarama - Permanent Secretary, Indigenous and Multi-Ethnic Affairs
2. Mr Aiyaz Sayed-Khaiyum Attorney-General, Minister for Justice, Electoral Reform, Public Enterprises and Anti-Corruption, Commerce and Industry
Mr Pio Tikoduadua - Permanent Secretary, Justice, Electoral Reform, Public Enterprises and Anti-Corruption
Mr Peceli Vocea - Permanent Secretary, Finance, National Planning and Sugar Industry Mr Cama Tuiloma - Permanent Secretary, Public Utilities (Water and Energy)
3. Ratu Epeli Nailatikau Minister for Foreign Affairs, International Co-operation and Civil Aviation
Mr Ross Ligairi - Permanent Secretary, Foreign Affairs, International Co-operation and Civil Aviation
4. Dr Jiko Luveni Minister for Health, Women and Social Welfare
Dr Lepani Waqatakirewa - Permanent Secretary, Health, Women and Social Welfare
5. Mr Filipe Bole Minister for Education, National Heritage, Culture and Arts, Youth and Sports, Local Government and Employment Relations
Mrs Emi Rabukawaqa - Permanent Secretary, Education, National Heritage, Culture and Arts
Mr Subhas Chandra - Permanent Secretary, Youth and Sports
Mr Taito Waqa - Permanent Secretary, Labour, Industrial Relations and Employment
(Vacant) - Permanent Secretary, Local Government, Urban Development and Housing
6. Mr Timoci Lesi Natuva Minister for Works, Transport and Public Utilities (Water and Energy)
Mr Anand Kumar - Permanent Secretary, Works and Transport
Mr Peter Wise - Acting Permanent Secretary, Industry, Tourism, Trade and Commerce
7. Mr Netani Sukanaivalu Minister for Lands, Mineral Resources and Environment
Mrs Maria Matavewa - Acting Permanent Secretary, Lands, Mineral Resources
8. Mr Joketani Cokanasiga Minister for Primary Industries and Sugar
Dr Niumaia Tabunakawai - Permanent Secretary, Fisheries and Forests
Dr Richard Beyer - Permanent Secretary, Agriculture
9. Ratu Epeli Ganilau Minister for Defence, National Security and Immigration
(Vacant) Permanent Secretary, Defence, National Security and Immigration
SOURCE OF THE ABOVE: http://www.fiji.gov.fj/publish/page_10907.shtml
PEOPLE INSTALLED INTO POSITIONS BY THE MILITARY GOVERNMENT OF Commodore Bainimarama
SOURCE
http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=53523
Jone Koroitamana AFL executive chairman Ro Filipe Tuisawau ATS chief executive. Nizam Ud Dean Fiji Electricity Authority Board Chairman Div Damodar Director Fiji Electricity Authority Ro Filipe Air Terminal Services CEO —Preceding unsigned comment added by Knowledgecreator (talk • contribs) 09:08, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Infobox Question
Why does Fiji’s Infobox not have a wiki-link under the flag to Flag of Fiji and under the coat of arms to Coat of arms of Fiji like most other country infoboxes?
BionicWilliam (talk) 07:25, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Holiday Question
The article doesn't seem clear on this, or hopefully someone with knowledge (and a reference) can add a sentence making this clearer: the list of holidays include days like "Easter Monday" and "Prophet Muhammed's Birthday" with specific dates next to them. Since in other lands which celebrate these religious holidays the days are part of the lunar calendar (and thus on different dates each year in our western calendar), can someone explain if the dates on the page are from 2008? Or are they always on those same dates in Fiji? With the names like Easter "Monday" and "Saturday", it seems like these are definitely not the same dates every year. If these are lunar dates, could someone have next to the (new for 2009) dates (needs to be updated) the rules for determining them? (such as, first sunday after so many new moons or whatever it is, or "according to XXX in the Islamic calendar" and the year next to the dates so readers know which year those dates are referring to)? Right now I can only assume that the current dates are for 2008-- I wish that were clearly stated somewhere. Thx 217.166.94.1 (talk) 07:48, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
religion
Christian (97.2% at the 1996 census), and the latter mostly Hindu (70.7%) and Muslim (17.9%)
can someone see something wrong with this? 97 70 20 = 187%. Interesting. Gabr-el 00:24, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
never mind, i found the mistake on my part. Gabr-el 00:25, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Several comments and questions
Several things:
- I've amended the infobox to change the government type from "military junta" to "unelected civilian government with a military leader". Longer, but more accurate. The article "military junta" defines its subject as "a government led by a committee of military leaders". That's not the case in Fiji, where the government is still composed of civilians as well as military officers. I don't know who's replacing Nailatikau at Indigenous Affairs, but Sayed-Khaiyum, Luveni, Bole and Cokanasiga are civilians. Perhaps we should call it an "unelected mixed civilian and military government with a military leader", but that might sound a little clumsy. ;) I've been collecting press articles on Fiji's politics for several years now, from various media, and, in literally hundreds of articles, I have only one in which the word "junta" is used. It's an opinion piece in the Fiji Times, from March 2008; you can find it here. A quick Google search comes up with a few others (in the New Zealand Herald, in The Age and The Irish Times, where the word is used briefly, without further comment or definition, by journalists). I can find no mention of politicians (in Fiji or elsewhere) using the word, nor academics. On the whole, it seems to be little used. Sufficiently for the word to be used as fact in a Wikipedia article? I leave it to my fellow editors to consider it.
- A comment. The article says: "On April 10, 2009, President Iloilo suspended the Constitution of Fiji, dismissed the Court of Appeal and appointed himself Head of State." The words "appointed himself Head of State" have been used over and over by the media, who apparently failed to realise that, as President, he was already Head of State before the constitutional crisis. He had an essentially figurehead rule (like the Queen in the Commonwealth Realms), but he was Head of State. That's due to very sloppy journalism, but also to the fact that Iloilo's words could be fairly confusing to anyone who didn't know he was Head of State already. What he actually said was: "With this abrogation I appoint myself as the Head of the State of Fiji under a new legal order." I'm not a legal expert, but I presume that, with the abrogation of the Constitution, his existing, constitutional function as President was undermined or abrogated, and he had therefore to "reappoint" himself under the new legal order - i.e., under a new institutional situation. In any case, I'll try to clarify it in the article; Wikipedia should hold itself to higher standards than the press and their sloppy mistakes. ;)
- A question. Now that he's been appointed Vice-President, does anyone know whether Nailatikau is still Chairman of the Great Council of Chiefs? Our articles say he is, but he holds that function ex officio as Minister for Indigenous Affairs, a position he no longer holds. So technically, under rules Bainimarama himself brought in, he should no longer be Chairman of the GCC. I suppose we can leave it as it is until we have a source saying that he's relinquished the position. Aridd (talk) 08:52, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
The portion should be summarised considering that there's already a wiki on this. 210.7.6.227 12:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
This doesn't seem to appear currently, as it looks liek someone has copied and pasted the Mount Rushmore National Park wiki into it.
- I condensed the section some. It could probably use more editing. Rmhermen (talk) 15:17, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Is Fiji good place to work
Hi
I want to know is Fiji a good place to work for Indian? Can also some one tell me where you have india shop? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.199.38.254 (talk) 12:34, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Religion II
What exactly is the religious make up? All we got is a bunch of ethnic demographic makeup with religion. I want the total for example is it 70% indigenious and 20% Muslim and 10% Christian? 11:48, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
- Here are the official figures from the Fiji Bureau of Statistics. The country has about 540,000 Christians (of which 290,000 Methodists), 235,000 Hindus and 50,000 Muslims. For a total population of 837,000. Aridd (talk) 16:21, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Urdu as official language?
On the Wikipedia page for Urdu, it is stated as an official language of Pakistan, India, AND FIJI. However, on this page, it is not an official language. Can someone please clarify? bigforrap (talk) 07:21, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
- Fiji Hindi is listed as an official language, and Urdu#Urdu and Hindi explains that Hindi and Urdu are generally regarded as variants of the same language. I'm not sure why we have Fiji Urdu as a separate article, perhaps it should be merged with Fiji Hindi.-gadfium 08:01, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Added ref
Hi. As you can see here, I just added a ref from Minority Rights Group International to sustain the claim that there have been growing political tensions between the different ethnic groups. I find that the Citation needed tag was not necessary, as this should be obvious given recent events in the country. This ref does not sustain the claim that "The level of tension varies between different regions of the country", which might have to be removed. If you have any issues with the ref, let me know. Cheers – sampi (talk•contrib•email) 11:50, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Category:Hindustani-speaking countries and territories
This article is in that category, although Fiji Hindi does not belong to Hindustani, just to the Hindi languages. Sarcelles (talk) 16:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Infobox
Having checked the infobox, I'm a tad confused. We've got the 'President of Fiji' and the 'Paramount Chief of Fiji'. The former suggests a republic, the latter a monarchy. GoodDay (talk) 22:05, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- No, "paramount chief" doesn't suggest a monarchy. Well, some people might think this expression means that, but it doesn't have to mean that. -- JackofOz (talk) 22:53, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- Should we continue including 'P.Chief' in the infobox? GoodDay (talk) 22:54, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- It should be removed immediately until better sources are provided. If there is any doubt the information is wrong it should be gone, and there appears to be a lot of doubt we need some better official sources. BritishWatcher (talk) 22:58, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- The Fiji version of wikipedia has her in it though. [3] but says government type Republic then calls her Monarch. This is very strange we should remove mention of Queen Elizabeth II just incase it is mistaken. BritishWatcher (talk) 23:00, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- When I first read the infobox, it confused me. GoodDay (talk) 23:01, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- Should we continue including 'P.Chief' in the infobox? GoodDay (talk) 22:54, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Fiji has been a republic since the aftermath of the 1987 coup, and the implementing of the 1990 Constitution. However, the Great Council of Chiefs subsequently recognised that Queen Elizabeth remained Paramount Chief of Fiji. She is still Tui Viti - i.e., Queen of Fiji. The title is purely honorific, and does not bring into question the legitimacy of the Republic. It's explained here to some extent, with sources. Aridd (talk) 16:17, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Demographic revolution
According to Prof. Wadan Narsey, the Indo-Fijian population is now only 33% of the total population. http://24hdanslepacifique.com/revolution-demographique-aux-iles-fidji —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.235.79.227 (talk) 03:40, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
- The 2007 census date says there are 313,798 Indo-Fijians, out of a total population of 837,271. That's 37.5% - the lowest it's ever been, I think. A further drop to 33% is not inconceivable, but only official data should be presented as... well, official. Aridd (talk) 09:44, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
It is outdated to say that "Politics of Fiji normally take place in the framework of a parliamentary representative democratic republic". Fiji is a military dictatorship, and should be described as such. The present pussy footing around is like saying that Russia in 1920 is still an absolute monarchy. It is time that the description catches up with the reality.124.197.15.138 (talk) 06:50, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
- Note the use of the word "normally". Fiji's politics normally take place within certain constitutionally defined criteria, the specifics of the current "interim government" notwithstanding. It is not for us to guess what the future may hold; we can only indicate the constitutional norm, and inform readers that the country has, for the time being, departed from it. Aridd (talk) 09:44, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Republic of Fiji
Fiji is now officially known as Republic of Fiji and not The Republic of The Fiji Islands. Permanent Secretary at the Prime Minister’s Office, Colonel Pio Tikoduadua said the name, Republic of the Fiji Islands, as stated in the 1997 constitution is no longer applicable. He also confirmed that the government is now officially known as the Fijian government, not the Fiji government. CrystalFiji 06:46, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- Is there a source for this? You need to add one. Nightw 06:40, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes I added the source and also I live in Fiji and I follow the current affairs and I know what is happening in my country. CrystalFiji 07:35, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
- Is there a legislation that has been passed? Your source is an online news thread that cites the Prime Minister's secretary? I'm not sure what the protocol on this is, but surely there needs to be proof of a constitutional amendment (although in Fiji's case this would probably be difficult). This may be another Myanmar/Burma issue. Have you any better soures? Nightw 05:36, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes I added the source and also I live in Fiji and I follow the current affairs and I know what is happening in my country. CrystalFiji 07:35, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
- The decree has not been published (yet), but the name change already is an established fact. See, e.g., here, here and here (p.33). Henning Blatt (talk) 13:54, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
Lost constitutional document
Should the misplacement of the official document of independence be mentioned? Jackiespeel (talk) 21:52, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Section Layout
Has anyone else noticed that there are twice as many sections in this article as in something like Canada? (I use that as an example because it has been rated FA... Also, I don't count the references, further reading, etc. sections.) Anyway, why don't we merge Tourism in to the Economy section? And Holidays and Sport (and maybe Language?) in to Culture? Transportation could potentially merge with Economy as well, although I'm not as sure about that... Anyway, if anyone has an opinion, let me know! Otherwise I'll go ahead and make an edit in the next couple days...AntarcticPenguin (talk) 01:19, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Language
I've never heard of Fiji-Indians saying "Namaste". They are mostly Sanatan, and their greeting is "Rama-Rama" (pronounced a bit like "rum-rum"). They will use this for hello and goodbye. The Muslims greet each other with Salaam Aleikum / Aleikum Salaam. I know this because I married into a Fiji-Indian family. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.244.251.88 (talk) 15:32, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
Official Language
The article lists 'Fiji Hindi' as one of the three official languages, while Constitution of Fiji under Chapter 1: Section 4 lists 'Hindustani' (and not 'Fiji Hindi') as one of the three official languages. IMO, the article needs to be fixed.--Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haidertcs 20:57, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Rugby League
The first two paragraphs of this section do indeed refer to rugby league on Fiji, but the remaining paragraphs are about rugby union. They either need re-writing or deleting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.16.153.234 (talk) 18:12, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
skype number on date in article???
Was wondering what a skype number was doing on the Fiji Wikipedia article I changed it back to the date as was appropriate but it was changed back by the User:Ummit, not sure the purpose or appropriate placing of the skype number would someone enlighten as to why a skype number was placed on this article??
- The item you removed is a non-breaking space, so the BC always appears on the same line as the date. Nothing to do with skype.-gadfium 05:16, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
- The formatting in question is a simple non-breaking space,
. - I'm not sure what makes this look like a "Skype phone number" to you.
- It looks like an ordinary space to me. —Steve Summit (talk) 05:13, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Maybe there's something wrong with my pc got renew my anti virus, it shows up as a skype number to call in NZ (call 3500 1000 in New Zealand)??? go figure, sorry about that gotta chk my PC cheers for the explanation User:Maikeli
- Okay, good luck with that! —Steve Summit (talk) 20:33, 9 February 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.56.70.5 (talk)
Fijian honours system.
The Fijian honours system article also needs to be added to the relevant templates to highlight that Fiji does have an honours system as part of Fijian society - (203.211.72.85 (talk) 22:17, 18 September 2013 (UTC))
Economy
I've been editing this article to improve clarity and conciseness. In the last sentence of the third paragraph in the section "Economy", I updated the verb "has had" to "had".
- " The political turmoil in Fiji in the 1980s, the 1990s, and 2000 had a severe impact on the economy, which shrank by 2.8% in 2000 and grew by only 1% in 2001."
"Has had" implies that it is fairly recent, and since the sentence refers to a development in the economy that occurred about thirteen years ago, it is now in the past. However, I wanted to get the time right. I saw earlier in the article that there was political turmoil in the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000, so I put those years. I want to be sure that this particular sentence was referring to the political turmoil during those two decades and 2000 and not just to the political turmoil in the year 2000. It would be nice if someone who knows the political and economic history of Fiji would review this sentence and determine whether I put the right years, or whether the phrase at the beginning of the sentence should be shortened to just "The political turmoil in Fiji in 2000".CorinneSD (talk) 18:26, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Picture of Ratu Tanoa Visawaqa
I read the summary explanation of the picture of Ratu Tanoa Visawaqa after clicking on the picture to enlarge it. I noticed in that summary the name is given in Russian: Рату Таноа Висаванга. I wondered why there was an "n" (looks like H) in the last name so that it reads (in English) "Visawanga". Then, later, in the table in the "Languages" section of the article, I read that the Fiji word for "Good morning", while spelled "Yadra" is pronounced "Yandra". Is the same rule for pronouncing "Yadra" as "Yandra" also at work in the Russian spelling of "Visawaga" as "Visawanga"? I'm just curious.CorinneSD (talk) 19:12, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
- Hi CorinneSD, that is generally correct although you're mixing up two distinct pronunciation rules for the Fijian language. First, the letter "d" in Fijian is pronounced like "nd" in English; for an example, see Nadi, Fiji (pronounced [ˈnandi]). Second, the letter "q" in Fijian is pronounced like "ng" in English; for an example, see Beqa (pronounced [mbeŋɡa]). So, Ratu Tanoa Visawaqa's last name would be pronounced like "Visawanga" or (or [βisaː'ɰaːŋɡa]). See Help:IPA for Fijian for more information on pronouncing Fijian words (like my favorite Fijian sound, [ð]). - tucoxn\talk 08:34, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for such a clear explanation! That's very interesting. So the Russian spelling really is correct (that is, it represents the pronunciation of the name correctly). In the Fijian spelling system, I wonder how "c" was chosen to represent "th", "nr" was chosen to represent "ndr", and "q" was chosen to represent "ng" as in "finger" (with "g" pronounced as hard g).CorinneSD (talk) 15:48, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- CorinneSD, the system of writing the Fijian language was invented by David Cargill in the early-mid 1800s. See this website for a brief description. If you search for his name and Fijian, you will find much more, including memoirs and other articles. - tucoxn\talk 12:46, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for the link. I found it fascinating to hear Fijian and some other S. Pacific languages spoken. I will read more about David Cargill and Fijian.CorinneSD (talk) 16:24, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
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Official languages
Although the Fijian constitution identifies "Hindustani" as one of its three official languages, this does not mean that all variants of Hindustani are intended. Instead, they are referring to the language that the rest of the world calls Fiji Hindi. This is not original research on my part -- it is the same conclusion drawn by the International Standards Organisation in its ISO 639-3 listing. See this listing here, which is published by the SIL, the official registrar for the ISO listing. NewYorkActuary (talk) 18:49, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
- The said ISO listing is outdated and doesn't consider the amendment of 2013, which replaced "Fiji Hindi" with "Hindi" as an Official language of Fiji. -Yoonadue (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:42, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Yoonadue: I think you're missing a basic point here -- the 2013 amendment didn't change the language that is being used, it simply changed what they called it. And although the amended constitution uses the word "Hindi" in one place (section 3), it uses "Fiji Hindi" in another (section 31). In the infobox, the existing method for resolving the constitutional ambiguity of the name is to describe the official language as "Hindi (Fiji Hindi)". Under this approach, the infobox lets the reader know that the constitution uses both "Hindi" and "Fiji Hindi", but links the reader only to the article on the language that is actually being spoken. NewYorkActuary (talk) 16:37, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
Historical Perspective
The article comments that "With the arrival of Europeans and colonialism in the late 1700s, many elements of Fijian culture were either repressed or modified to ensure European, namely British, control. This was especially the case concerning traditional Fijian spiritual beliefs."
This implies that Fijian religion and cannibalism were cynically used by Europeans to justify political control over the islands. Given Victorian beliefs and attitudes in Europe, it's entirely plausible that a) Europeans Christians genuinely wanted to introduce Fijians to what they saw as the benefits of Christianity, and b) they found cannibalism (to whatever degree it was actually practised) repugnant and barbaric. If there are contemporary sources showing European attitudes towards Fiji, it would be interesting to see them cited to balance the contemporary idea that colonial-era attitudes were all part of a cynical conspiracy to gain power. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.41.144.95 (talk) 11:58, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
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Fijian Druas
The picture captioned "Fijian Druas" (which shows canoe with numerous paddlers) is wrong. Fijian Drua were not paddled - they were far too big and heavy. The source of the picture in question is the New York Public Library Digital Collections where it is captioned "Terreeoboo, King of Owhyhee, bringing presents to Captain Cook". Firstly, Captain Cook never landed in Fiji. The closest he came to Fiji, was a distant sighting of the island we now call 'Vatoa'. Secondly, "Owhyee" was Cook's way of spelling of "Hawaii". Thirdly, the same picture appears in the Wikipedia entry for Hawaii.ENSOsurfer (talk) 15:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
- Done - source of image clearly indicates it is a Hawaiian king. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia talk 15:17, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 9 November 2020
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there are two ways you can get a visa: single or in a group and visa provides a lot of important documents and information which can be a headache. Most of the time people that have an emergency can get their visa in a snap of your finger but otherwise a single or a group of family members takes time. I think it’s better for people to get their visa’s priority to the date of any celebrations or something because it’s a process. also This is a worthy/credible source to use because this gives you ideas on how Fiji visas work when you're a part of that island. I could use this source in the Wikipedia article section on acceptance to leave Fiji island for international visits or for good to move out of the country or in my research paper section on explaining situations to help further explain how visas work. I wanted to put this under the tourism section because I think it's important to know about visas. Nandani bhan (talk) 06:57, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- We usually don't include general tourism recommendations (WP:NOTGUIDE), but a neutral summary of the visa application process could be mentioned on the article Visa policy of Fiji. – Thjarkur (talk) 14:28, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
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Common name = Viti? / Lookup logic for ISO-3166 two letter code
I've just wanted to add the ISO-3166 two letter code (FJ) to the infobox of this page. I've learned that the code is automatically provided if Template:Infobox country's common_name
is used accordingly. Currently, common_name
is set to "Viti". Because the logic of Template:Infobox country expects "Fiji" not "Viti", the lookup of the two letter code is currently broken. So as a solution, either common_name
on this page needs to be changed to "Fiji" or the logic used by Template:Infobox country needs to be changed to map "Viti" to FJ. I don't unfortunately know enough about the "right" common name for this country. So what's the adequate solution for this? --Hauke Pribnow (talk) 11:47, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
- The documentation for Infobox country says "common name" should be in English, so I've changed it to "Fiji".-gadfium 18:36, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Fiji Hindi name: Fiji Ganarajya or Republic of Fiji?
The article uses फ़िजी गणराज्य Fijī Gaṇarājya. But, the constitution (direct PDF link) uses रीपब्लिक ऑफ फ़िजी Repablik oph Fiji, a transcription of the English name. From what I know, Fiji Hindi has a lot more English influence and less Sanskrit influence. So, what name is commonly used officially? Would appreciate seeing other sources on this matter, as well as a romanization that fits Fiji Hindi rules. MSG17 (talk) 12:42, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
Map
To show where Fiji is in the world, you need to show it on a proper WORLD map--a map showing the entire world--not just a segment of a globe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.243.220.61 (talk) 05:21, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Chinese People Migration to Fiji
Please include or reference the Migration of Chinese peoples from wherever they came - China? Indo China? Other parts of the world? They have had an important n significant part in Fiji’s development since landing/ first arrival in Fiji from the beginning. If I missed seeing this info in your list, please forgive me. Thank you kindly for your consideration. Sincerely. Doris QH Erting 12.153.217.212 (talk) 23:18, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
"Fiii" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Fiji > Sport > Rugby Union
Fijians won Hong Kong 7's 19 times. Also they won World Cup this year. As if it wasn't enough they won Olympic Gold medal twice. Please improove information, I'm not able to do it. 185.21.86.165 (talk) 08:51, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
October 10, 1970
Fiji Fijian Independence Day is October 10th 🇫🇯 2600:6C5D:40F0:8440:805:4402:119C:C24 (talk) 20:49, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- We mention the date of independence in the infobox, but more detail is included in List of festivals in Fiji and even more at Fiji Week.-gadfium 21:53, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
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Change From: Dutch explorer Abel Tasman was the first known European visitor to Fiji, sighting the northern island of Vanua Levu and the North Taveuni archipelago in 1643 while looking for the Great Southern Continent.[citation needed]
To: Dutch explorer Abel Tasman was the first known European visitor to Fiji, sighting the northern island of Vanua Levu and the North Taveuni archipelago in 1643 while looking for the Great Southern Continent.[1] CitationCreator2023 (talk) 04:45, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Done Lightoil (talk) 05:27, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ Wallis, H. Margaret (n.d.). Abel Tasman. Encyclopedia Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/biography/Abel-Tasman