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[edit]I will adjust the text to reflect the historical importance, and remove the advert warning.
- Above comment by user:Arch dude 74.78.162.229 (talk) 04:13, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Ref cite tag.
[edit]Really the only authoritative cites here will be Unisys Clear Path Enterprise Server documents CANDE Operations and Reference Manual and the Editor Operations Cuide which like as not have same-named Burroughs era predecessors. Prolly some secondary sources, but they're unlikely to be anything more than superficial mentions. 74.78.162.229 (talk) 04:13, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Calling it anachronistic today is an understatement - it was already anachronistic when I wrote it. The MCS control facilities were necessarily new, but there was an excellent (for its day) editor already in wide use on the B5500. Unfortunately I'd never used a time sharing system, and so I made the underlying model for CANDE be the boxes of punch cards that we (the B6500 software team) used for day-to-day programming. Oh well :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Igodard (talk • contribs) 03:28, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- Damn, you wrote CANDE! Youse are the Mang! 198.255.198.157 (talk) 17:14, 28 December 2013 (UTC) (same person as 74.78.162.229)
Authors
[edit]No doubt there were many. Randall Gellens, is presumptively verified by his Linked in page listing Burroughs/Unisys tenure. I presume Ivan Godard (the only other person commenting on this page besides ArchDude, SFAIK, the ips are me), was the original, possibly as early as the late 60s, early 70s, since I know he's a real person (has related article here on Mill architecture). Darrel F. High can't find but not cite tagging under a presumption of innocence, presume he came between Godard and Gellens. No doubt there's a current maintainer, since it's still an actively marketed product. Lycurgus (talk) 02:06, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- Cande was originally authored by Remote Computing Corporation (RCC), perhaps in mid to late ‘60s, then taken over by Burroughs (see http://texteditors.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CANDE).
- Darrel High rings a bell, but I can’t remember the context. Randy Gellens certainly worked on Cande in the late ‘80s - ‘90s (his office was around the corner from mine), but he took over from someone else, possibly Bev Doig. The Cande person in Tredyffrin in ‘70s - early ‘80s was a woman named Fran, iirc. They were all maintainers. They may have implemented new features. Login54321 (talk) 06:58, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Bev Doig worked on networking (BNP), not CANDE. There was a woman assigned to CANDE before Randall Gellens took over but I can’t recall her name. This was in 1983. She originally tried to implement the greatly expanded library maintenance syntax but was unable to get it to work, because she tried to merely extend the spaghetti code, which heavily relied on GOTOs. She was out on medical leave when Randall Gellens was assigned. He rewrote the code. Anabolism (talk) 19:39, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Darrel High, and summer employee Steve Cooper, worked on CANDE in the summer of 1972. (Conversation with Steve Cooper, 1973)
The source code, as of 1977, had no names of anyone within it. (Source code checked 2021-12-19 by Stan Sieler.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sieler (talk • contribs) 04:43, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- Since the bitsavers link is bit rotted, here is my MCP 3.3 version linked here and in my space. I'm working on a thing I call CANDE/MCPCMS but has an elemental relation to the eponymous thing in current Unisys. 2600:1017:A110:7403:34A7:A732:4401:AD97 (talk) 20:53, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
CANDE initially written in 1973?
[edit]CANDE § Implementation says that "CANDE was originally written in 1973 by Darrel F. High." I added a reference to a Burroughs manual for the B5500 Time Sharing System that's dated in 1969 (June 1969, I think, from the 6-69 at the bottom of one page), that speaks of CANDE, so development didn't start in 1973; does that mean it completed in 1973, with that manual being premature? Guy Harris (talk) 02:49, 17 August 2024 (UTC)