Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Law

Requested move at Talk:Pornography laws by region#Requested move 15 September 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Pornography laws by region#Requested move 15 September 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 15:38, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Notability for laws

As a follow-up to the question above, I’m wondering what the specific notability requirements for a law (as in a paragraph/article, not a full legal text) are. Is significant coverage in multiple RS sufficient? Because that would make most German and European and many subnational laws notable, where we have almost no articles? FortunateSons (talk) 15:42, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

GNG applies. voorts (talk/contributions) 16:00, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! FortunateSons (talk) 16:02, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:LGBT rights by country or territory#Requested move 30 September 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:LGBT rights by country or territory#Requested move 30 September 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. --MikutoH ^talk! 22:46, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Statutory rules of Northern Ireland#Requested move 29 September 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Statutory rules of Northern Ireland#Requested move 29 September 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 10:19, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Re Kevin – validity of marriage of transsexual#Requested move 15 October 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Re Kevin – validity of marriage of transsexual#Requested move 15 October 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. --MikutoH ^talk! 22:59, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

For the interested

An Indian court has said today "Accordingly, in the interim, this Court directs that the pages on Wikipedia pertaining to the single judge as well as discussion of the observations of division bench be taken down or deleted within 36 hours". It's (mainly) about Asian News International vs. Wikimedia Foundation. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:38, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Appalachian School of Law

Appalachian School of Law has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 01:26, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Berghuis v. Thompkins

Berghuis v. Thompkins has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 01:30, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

List of sentences

There is no life sentence or unlimited prison term in Brazil. Brazilian law forbids imprisonment to exceed 40 years (for example, see Pedro Rodrigues Filho). Accordingly, Francisco das Chagas should be included in section "False claims". Xadreq (talk) 08:28, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Request to Move at Gun show loophole

There is a discussion regarding moving the article Gun show loophole -> Private sale of firearms in the United States [1]. A related NPOVN discussion is here [2]. Springee (talk) 00:03, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for J. D. B. v. North Carolina

J. D. B. v. North Carolina has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 16:27, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Copyright status of a complaint filed in a civil case in the US

Can someone clarify whether a complaint document filed in a civil case in the US is copyrighted, and how one should deal with repeating or explaining the claims in a Wikipedia article. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 05:31, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

The copyright is with the person who filed the complaint, I think. In my view, generally you should follow what secondary sources say about it, and use the document as a primary source document if needed. voorts (talk/contributions) 18:45, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Controlling law

Can we please merge this unreferenced stub, Controlling law, into Choice of law clause, or better yet, both of them into Choice of law? Thanks in advance. Feel free to ping/tag me. Bearian (talk) 16:05, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

This is a reasonable suggestion, Bearian, but I'm not sure about it. I had a look at what links to 'Controlling law', and the context of incoming links raises a concerns. Here's the text of all the current incoming mainspace links...

1. Patentable subject matter in the United States

   Similar judicial philosophy was adopted by Federal Circuit Judge Pauline Newman in Ariosa v. Sequenom, but this approach was firmly rejected by the SCOTUS in Mayo Collaborative Services v. Prometheus Laboratories, Inc. and it is not the controlling law in the USA.

2. Flood v. Kuhn

   After citing many precedents which had held industries which did not ship goods for sale across state lines to be interstate commerce, Chief Justice Earl Warren wrote that Federal Baseball and Toolson applied only to baseball and thus Hart controlled in the instant case (followed by a judicial quote)

3. United States v. Throckmorton

   A circuit split developed over which case was controlling during the late 1930s, but the Court declined to resolve it, although it has modified and clarified the rule in several decisions since then; Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 60(b) has also limited Throckmorton's applicability.

4. Shearson/American Express Inc. v. McMahon

   In 1953 it had held in Wilko v. Swan that three provisions of the Securities Act of 1933 (or, the 1933 Act), which regulates the primary market in which securities issuers sell directly to buyers, were controlling, allowing investors to take their claims to court regardless of what contracts and the Federal Arbitration Act (FAA) said.

5. Dean Witter Reynolds Inc. v. Byrd

   The plaintiff had sued under the Securities Act of 1933, under which any provision mandating that an investor waive their right to sue was prohibited. A 7–2 majority found the latter statute was controlling.

6. Moses H. Cone Memorial Hospital v. Mercury Construction Corp.

   Federal law was controlling, overriding North Carolina law that held contracts such as the one between Mercury and the hospital not to be in interstate commerce and thus under the domain of state law, which in this case would have allowed the hospital to avoid arbitration.

7. Index of law articles — index article, not that interesting, whatever

Apologies in advance for my perhaps hazy understanding of American jurisprudence, but these uses seem quite different from what the article is about. In the first, second and third examples, the term is used to refer to which precedent is controlling (or, as jurists outside the US might say, which precedent is applicable or binding). In the fourth and fifth examples, the term is used in the context of the US Supreme Court deciding which of two federal statutes has priority. In the sixth example, it is used in the context of determining whether US federal law or state law had priority on a question before the court. None of the examples seem to use the term to refer to choice of law.

Currently, an ordinary reader with little or no legal education reading the above articles is likely to be misled if they were to click any of these links hoping to find out what exactly "controlling" or "controlling law" means in context. If we were to redirect it to either choice of law or choice of law clause, they'd still be misled. The preferable answer may be to change these links to better targets, or remove them entirely. (An aside: "controlling law" is a redlink on Wiktionary.) —Tom Morris (talk) 15:00, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Got it. I’m not going to merge it until I get feedback from at least two other users. Bearian (talk) 15:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/2024 Wikipedia blackout

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/2024 Wikipedia blackout. Sincerely, Dilettante 21:56, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for R v R

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Requested move at Talk:European Union law#Requested move 16 November 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:European Union law#Requested move 16 November 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. JuniperChill (talk) 19:20, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

UK Terminally Ill Adults Bills

FYI

 – Pointer to relevant discussion elsewhere.

Please see Talk:Assisted suicide in the United Kingdom#UK Terminally Ill Adults Bills. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:20, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Expectation of privacy (United States)#Requested move 25 November 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Expectation of privacy (United States)#Requested move 25 November 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Raladic (talk) 23:44, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

I am behind two successive proposals to move that article to a more accurate title, with a resulting discussion that can't nail down a solution for a new title but with general consensus that the current title is wrong. Please consider chipping in if you haven't already, while reveiwing both recent discussions for a taste of what has happened so far. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:20, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Updates to Neil Barofsky

There are updates proposed that may interest members of this project: Talk:Neil Barofsky#December 2024 Updates 9NassauHouse (talk) 19:39, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Notice of Hearing

Notice of hot mess. Can someone please fix this, or can we redirect it somewhere? Bearian (talk) 02:38, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

I've PRODed it because I can't think of a good redirect target. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:21, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

I'm not entirely convinced that this couldn't support a WP:BCA -- there is some general coverage in paralegal textbooks that might suit to tie it all together, and often quite a lot on specific NOH procedures and requirements in specific jurisdictions or subject areas, e.g. for replevin after Fuentes v. Shevin -- but I am convinced that the existing article is worse than nothing, so no objections here. -- Visviva (talk) 01:46, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Real estate settlement company

This one has been under the radar for years. If you’ve ever been to a closing, these folks can be essential. Can we please source this? Bearian (talk) 04:28, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Blanked and redirected to Closing (real estate). voorts (talk/contributions) 01:28, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Bearian (talk) 11:03, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Westchester County Bar Association

Here’s another stub that’s been unsourced for 15 years. I have friends who are members. Can you find objective references? Bearian (talk) 01:08, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

From an initial look, the odds of this meeting WP:NORG seem quite low. Perhaps a better result would be to create a List of bar associations in New York and merge it there? -- Visviva (talk) 01:29, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Great idea. Can you work on that in the next few weeks? Bearian (talk) 11:04, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Conflict model (criminal justice)

I’ve taught Criminal Justice but haven’t heard of this, but I don’t know everything. Can you please help t source this? Bearian (talk) 17:32, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Ex contractu

Do you think we should redirect this to Wiktionary? Be bold! Bearian (talk) 11:03, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Petition mill

Can somebody please fix the issues identified by tags? I used to practice bankruptcy law, but it's been 32 years. Bearian (talk) 04:53, 18 December 2024 (UTC)