Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/R.E. Lee Deville

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The result of the debate was delete.

Comment: In the future, please manually edit the VfD nomination to link to a new sub-page such as VfD/pagename (2nd nomination). We really do want to preserve the prior discussions intact. Rossami (talk) 04:54, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

R.E. Lee Deville

This is what has happened to this article so far:

This page was initially created as vandalism; most likely an attack.
I nominated for deletion. (see below)
During the debate User:Remes made a commendable rewrite of the article, but apart of him, only one person, yours truly, commented on it (I changed my vote from delete to weak delete).
The article was deleted.
The article was undeleted (Wikipedia:Votes for undeletion#R.E. Lee Deville) with some doubts from several users.
I have now submitted this for deletion again for a new debate.

My vote is still delete. I know it may seem paradoxical that I keep voting keep on fictional Pokémon characters and delete on real people; but I think that fictional characters are often known to more people, and therefore more notable. I am not saying that they should be more notable, but I feel that they are. Sjakkalle 08:31, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

This page was undeleted out of process. It's supposed to stay on VfU for 5 days before the article is undeleted. I see nothing notable about this person. Delete. Rick K 08:47, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)
Delete, agree with the average college professor criterion. Demi ^T/_C 09:15, 2005 Mar 18 (UTC)
Keep but with reservations. Article needs expansion. Megan1967 10:22, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Delete, notability not established (and no, having an Erdos number of 3 doesn't count). Radiant _* 10:48, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)
Delete, unless there is evidence put forth he clears the average professor bar. I would encourage zealous admins to follow the VfU procedure. --TenOfAllTrades | Talk 19:59, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Delete. Still not notable, and undeletion was out of process. Jayjg ^(talk) 20:13, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Delete. 51 Google hits. 44 if references to the VfU/VfD discussions are omitted. Several of them are personal home pages and class schedules. His CV shows eight publications. To me, these don't add up to encyclopedic notability yet. Maybe in a few years... Dpbsmith (talk) 20:44, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Delete. Fails the average professor test. Out of process undeletion. jni 20:51, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Delete. Not more notable than the average professor. DaveTheRed 21:34, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Delete. Math professors are not inherently notable, and there is nothing in the article that indicates this one is exceptional. --BM 22:37, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Comment. First, to quote from my comment on the original VfD: "I have absolutely no knowledge of mathematics, so I can't say whether he's notable, although I doubt it, since essentially he's a postdoc at NYU." I'm not voting in this VfD, although I'm not going to be sad if it get deleted. It would be nice if someone who knew about academic mathematics could say whether his articles are notable or not, since I don't really accept a Google test as a reasonable gauge one way or the other in this case. Remes 19:13, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Delete I was among those who voted to undelete, as I figured it deserved another go as rewritten (the original was a silly attack page). While this is a vast improvement, the subject is just not notable enough. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 14:40, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)
Delete. Still not notable. Jayjg ^(talk) 23:10, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.

This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was delete. Joyous 03:03, Mar 15, 2005 (UTC)

R.E. Lee Deville

The article freely admits that Mr. Deville is "of little merit". THat does not sound particularily notable. I suggest that this article be deleted. Sjakkalle 15:13, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Delete. Vanity, or perhaps just nonsense. Remes 16:34, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Comment. I have just rewritten this article as a stub about the real R.E. Lee DeVille. I have absolutely no knowledge of mathematics, so I can't say whether he's notable, although I doubt it, since essentially he's a postdoc at NYU. Someone who knows more about math could look at it and comment here about whether he's worth keeping in. Also, my stub is really inadequate, because I can't really understand his CV or his research interest statement. Again, someone who knows more about math could do much better than I did. Anyway, I'm going to withhold a vote at all now, because while this is no longer the attack or nonsense that it was before, I'm still not sure whether he's sufficiently notable or not. Remes 22:58, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Delete. This sounds like nonsense to me. Insufficient information to even contemplate verifying.Average Earthman 16:57, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Delete He's real, a research mathematician at NYU... but this article smells more like an attack page than an attempt to start a bio stub. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 18:16, Mar 9, 2005 (UTC)
Delete. Looks like an attack, may not merit a page anyway. Jayjg ^(talk) 19:38, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Delete, could be speedied as a personal attack/vandalism, else a rant. Wyss 00:49, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I was on the verge of nominating this for a speedy deletion, but I was a bit unsure. I was sure that this article merited a deletion or massive cleanup. Sjakkalle 07:25, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Still delete but weakened, Remes has made a valiant attempt at saving this page, and the page is no longer an attack (or perhaps a self-deprecating vanity?). I do not think that Deville passes the average college professor bar (I believe that has been the standard on whether to keep or delete such articles) for notability however, being an associate research scientist would suggest that he does not. Nonetheless, Remes should be thanked for his attempt. Sjakkalle 07:18, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.