Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 20
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 20, 2022.
Munden
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- The result of the discussion was disambiguate. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 06:25, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Suggest disambiguation, given the likes of Munden, Kansas, Munden House, Great Munden, Little Munden, Bob Munden, Carri Munden, Donald Munden, John Munden, Joseph Shepherd Munden, Marc Munden, Marwood Munden, Paul Munden, Richard Munden (British Army officer), Richard Munden (Royal Navy officer) and Victor Munden. There is also a ridge called "Munden" in Pakistan and another place called "Münden" in Germany. I pointed this to Minden (disambiguation) but was reverted however a separate DAB could exist here. Crouch, Swale (talk) 23:17, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom --Lenticel (talk) 00:18, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Disambiguate per nom and Lenticel. I'm not sure there's a clear primary topic. Regards, SONIC678 01:19, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Disambiguate with the items above and whatever else is relevant from Minden (disambiguation), but I have to ask: why does Minden (disambiguation) include items titled "Munden" as well? They don't seem to be obvious variations. eviolite (talk) 15:06, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom ----DanielCD (talk) 13:50, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Keep as redirect to the primary topic. The city of Hann. Münden is widely known simply as Münden, and English-speaking readers would expect to be redirected if they type Munden without the diacritic. Note that Münden and Muenden also redirect to the city; if they are made inconsistent that would create unnecessary confusion. Of the other topics listed that have Wikipedia articles, only the place in Kansas is called simply "Munden", and according to the article it has a population of 100 so is hardly of comparable significance. 188.30.21.176 (talk) 13:30, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per 188.30.21.176, and create Munden (disambiguation) and Munden (surname) separately. --Paul_012 (talk) 11:50, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- I have created a disambig draft with no primary, at the redirect. Jay (talk) 03:28, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
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Arctic Animals
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Arctic#Animals. ✗plicit 00:44, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- Arctic Animals → Arctic fox (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Originally an attempt at a stand alone article. Later redirected to Arctic Ocean and now to Arctic fox. There are multiple animals in the Arctic and foxes are just one. I can't find a list to redirect to or any other suitable target. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 22:18, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget to Arctic#Animals, which has a bit of content about the subject. Hog Farm Talk 22:28, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget to Arctic#Animals. A bit thin on the content side but has links that would be helpful for our readers' searches. --Lenticel (talk) 00:20, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget to Arctic#Animals per Hog Farm and Lenticel. We don't want to WP:ASTONISH readers by directing them to that specific a target, and this section would make a better target than either Arctic Ocean or the current one. Regards, SONIC678 02:27, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
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CBS17
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to CBS 17. ✗plicit 00:47, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
Retarget to CBS 17 which has possible targets. WNCN is probably the primary topic, but this sort of small detail difference isn't the greatest. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 21:50, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget to CBS 17 per nom. None of the topics on the dab page seem to brand themselves without the space and if CBS 17 has been determined not to have a primary topic, CBS17 shouldn't either. eviolite (talk) 15:10, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
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𒀭𒀝𒆪𒁺𒌨𒊑𒋀
editRelisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 28#𒀭𒀝𒆪𒁺𒌨𒊑𒋀
Tangan
editRelisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 1#Tangan
Makavians
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:44, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
Not mentioned at the target, no relevant results in internet and GScholar searches, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 18:10, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Only mentions I could find and access are blogs, this book which is self-published (Lulu.com), and blogs based off of that book. eviolite (talk) 20:44, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. I couldn't find much. Apparently Makavian "sky people" and "moon-eyed" people are two separate peoples, each attributed to Cherokee myth. The descriptions indicate an essential conflict:
- Makavians: sky people, ancestors of the Cherokee
- Moon-eyed people: found living in the Appalachian region; expelled by the Cherokee
- This is the first sentence in the lede of Moon-eyed people: "
The moon-eyed people are a legendary group of short, bearded white skinned people who are said to have lived in Appalachia until the Cherokee expelled them.
" - I found this mention of Makavians on a blog, [1] (iNigeria.com), (home) > The Sources Of Some Christian Beliefs And Practices >
g. The Cherokees (Native American) people also believed that they are descendants of sky people known as “Makavians.”
- signed, Cohutta Blue talk
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Private school (India and Sri Lanka)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:45, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- Private school (India and Sri Lanka) → Private school (Sri Lanka) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Private school (India and Sri Lanka) redirects to Private schools (Sri Lanka). This is not appropriate because the target page describes private schools in Sri Lanka only (and not India). This redirect page should be deleted. Dwaipayan (talk) 18:06, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:XY. No page discusses both. eviolite (talk) 20:46, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Clearly conflates two distinct topics. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:54, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:XY --Lenticel (talk) 03:32, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:XY. Also an implausible search term. Why would someone search for Private school (India and Sri Lanka) rather than simply the one country name they're seeking information for. ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk|contribs) 05:41, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: This was the article's original title when it was created by PBS in 2010, before Blackknight12 removed the parts about India and renamed it in 2013. It's been mostly stable since then, but this seems to be more due to lack of interest. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:04, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the heads up User:Paul_012. I originaly created the article by moving out a section on what was predominatly an article on British public school with a few small sections on Commonwealth countries. There is a section on this subject: Education in India#Private schools (unaided). I would suggest removing this redirect, but creating another one Private school (India) redirecting to Education in India#Private schools (unaided). Then before this redirect is deleted altering any links to use the one or the other country specific link. — PBS (talk) 20:02, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- I have gone ahead and done it. There was only one article that needed changing and that was Darjeeling — PBS (talk) 20:23, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the heads up User:Paul_012. I originaly created the article by moving out a section on what was predominatly an article on British public school with a few small sections on Commonwealth countries. There is a section on this subject: Education in India#Private schools (unaided). I would suggest removing this redirect, but creating another one Private school (India) redirecting to Education in India#Private schools (unaided). Then before this redirect is deleted altering any links to use the one or the other country specific link. — PBS (talk) 20:02, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
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Canonical jurisprudence
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- The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request undeletion of these articles. ✗plicit 14:41, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- Canonical jurisprudence → Jurisprudence of Catholic canon law (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Canon law jurisprudence → Jurisprudence of Catholic canon law (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Jurisprudence of canon law → Jurisprudence of Catholic canon law (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Misleading and biased: not every jurisprudence in canon law is the Catholic canon law jurisprudence. For example, there is the jurisprudence of Eastern Orthodox canon law.
The concept of jurisprudence at the article Canon law is only mentioned once and it is concerning Catholic canon law jurisprudence, so a retarget there would be a very bad idea.
The creator of the article moved the page to remove the Catholic bias of the previous title, but left those redirects.
I recommend deletion. Veverve (talk) 14:38, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
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Housemartin
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Delichon. signed, Rosguill talk 01:46, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- Housemartin → Common house martin (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Same animal, alternate spellings; should redirect to the same target. I suggest that should be "common house martin" because the adjective "common" here reflects Wikipedia naming conventions, but do not feel strongly about it.
Note 1. Housemartins redirects to The Housemartins, which strikes me as appropriate.
Note 2. House marten redirects to Beech marten; the hatnote there should be aligned with the result of this discussion. Narky Blert (alt) (talk) 13:32, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
- (Re)target all to Delichon. Ideally a statement with a reference stating the genus comprises "the house martins" should be added, since all 4 extant species are house martins. Update hatnotes as appropriate per Narky Blert. I already tweaked some hatnotes and redirect in relation to the mammal, House marten. A hatnote should be added to The Housemartins if not already. Mdewman6 (talk) 05:06, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 13:30, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Target Delichon as all species are also known as "house martins" and for other similar cases, like Wren and Pigeon, the broader taxon is targeted. eviolite (talk) 23:17, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
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Video captions
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Queen of England (disambiguation)
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- The result of the discussion was no consensus to delete. Instead this will be disambiguated as the most supported ATD, and I will be following 65.92.246.142's outline. -- Tavix (talk) 20:16, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- Queen of England (disambiguation) → Monarchy of the United Kingdom#English monarchy (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Is this the best target for this, consistent with Queen of England, or List of English monarchs? Or, given that neither target is a disambiguation page, could we delete it (my preference). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:24, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Useless clutter with no good target. Queen of England and List of queens of England are both redirects to Monarchy of the United Kingdom#English monarchy, an article and section which does not perform any sort of disambiguation-type function. Narky Blert (alt) (talk) 13:41, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per Narky Blert. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:37, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
- Restore disambiguation Move the old disambiguation page [2] in the history of Queen of England (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) to this pagename; add a list entry for List of shipwrecks in September 1865 which lists a ship called "Queen of England"; apparently the winner of RuPaul's Drag Race UK is also called the "Queen of England" (per the seasons articles references) but it is not referenced in the main article. Also Santa Clarita Diet has a TV episode "The Queen of England" -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 04:39, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Disambiguate per the IP. A7V2 (talk) 07:58, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: A disambiguation draft will help in the discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 13:28, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Procedural note that, as currently stands, this title is eligible for G14 speedy deletion. Not sure whether I think that DAB is worth restoring. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 23:56, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- Disambig per the IP above. Thryduulf (talk) 17:24, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
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Connaught Road DLR station
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to List of Docklands Light Railway stations#Safeguarded stations. ✗plicit 14:39, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- Connaught Road DLR station → Docklands Light Railway#Connaught Road/Silvertown Interchange station (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Previous (eg 2014) versions of the target article had a section "Connaught Road/Silvertown Interchange station" but even then, that section said "no plans have emerged as to if or when a station might be built here". Readers will find nothing about Connaught Road at the target article now, and the unexplained presence of this redirect may lead to confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:58, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget: A better redirect would be to List of Docklands Light Railway stations#Safeguarded stations, where the station is actually mentioned. 10mmsocket (talk) 12:09, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Well done, I missed that. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:02, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Agree - yes, I remember rewriting that particular bit of the DLR and DLR station pages - and didn't know about that redirect. Sounds like a good solution. Turini2 (talk) 17:44, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- So bodly retarget and remove this discussion? 10mmsocket (talk) 13:17, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget per above. Thryduulf (talk) 22:42, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
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Field hockey at the 2024 Summer Olympics
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 05:44, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- Field hockey at the 2024 Summer Olympics → 2024 Summer Olympics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete - Similar to Weightlifting, Basketball, and Football which are all in discussion I would have to suggest this to be also apart of the discussion as the redirects for an event happening in two years to the main event are not particularly useful. I would suggest this page be removed. Swaggalicious (talk) 05:00, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - Too early for this redirect. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 18:43, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and my RfD for some of the other redirects I spotted. The outcome of all redirects should be consistent so we don't have existing redirects for some of the events and deleted redirects for others. Bonoahx (talk) 00:20, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and the above. A7V2 (talk) 03:31, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
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2026 Winter Olympics medal table
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 05:44, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- 2026 Winter Olympics medal table → 2026 Winter Olympics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete, there is no such medal table at the target. Nor can there be, no medals will be won for another four years (minus a couple weeks). -- Tavix (talk) 02:54, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, I agree with Tavix. This event won't be happening for another 4 years and therefore a page made for the medal tables is currently useless until closer to the event year. Swaggalicious (talk) 05:07, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - Too early for this redirect. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 18:43, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. Too early. ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk|contribs) 05:37, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. A7V2 (talk) 03:31, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 14:18, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete no mention at target; misleading. 98.179.127.59 (talk) 16:42, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
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IPhone SE (3rd generation)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 02:25, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- IPhone SE (3rd generation) → IPhone (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- IPhone SE 3 → IPhone (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- IOS 16 → IOS (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- IPadOS 16 → IPadOS (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Apple M2 → Apple silicon (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Pixel 6a → Google Pixel (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4 → Samsung Galaxy Z series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Asus ZenFone 9 → Asus ZenFone (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- ROG Phone 6 → Asus#Republic of Gamers (ROG) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Following Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 11#IPad Air (5th generation) and Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 13#IPhone 14, I have decided to nominate all of Hajoon01012's crystal ball failing redirects. I have verified for each of these redirects that there is no mention at the target. -- Tavix (talk) 02:22, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete all as all are just rumors, not publically announced yet, similar to the 5th gen iPad Air. eviolite (talk) 02:33, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Eviolite: But, long times ago, Pixel 5a (Pixel 6a's predecessor device) was redirect page, and Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3 (Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4's predecessor device) was redirect page. --Hajoon0102 💬 03:49, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Hajoon0102: Pixel 5a was only created after the phone was announced on August 17. The Z Fold 3 is the only exception, and it likely just went unnoticed. The redirect was never discussed, and consensus for similar discussions has been to delete. eviolite (talk) 03:53, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Hajoon0102: It seems you don't grasp the fact that Wikipedia is not here to predict things. Please read the linked page. 98.179.127.59 (talk) 16:54, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Eviolite: But, long times ago, Pixel 5a (Pixel 6a's predecessor device) was redirect page, and Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3 (Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4's predecessor device) was redirect page. --Hajoon0102 💬 03:49, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Delete ROG Phone 6 ROG Phone 5 (ROG Phone 6's predecessor device) created after announcement. --Hajoon0102 💬 03:50, 20 February 2022 (UTC)Changed opinion --Hajoon0102 💬 10:08, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete all - Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. — Golden call me maybe? 09:23, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete all per nom. A7V2 (talk) 03:32, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete all Looking at the policy, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. --Hajoon0102 💬 10:08, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete all per WP:CRYSTAL; what if they skip this particular number? And who knows if they will release a 3rd gen iPhone SE? There is zero basis for some of these redirects. 98.179.127.59 (talk) 16:54, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I have created a draft at Draft:iOS 16 for anyone who's interested, in case they do release it. 98.179.127.59 (talk) 17:05, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
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Orange ball
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Philosophy, theology, and fundamental theory of canon law
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- The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 18:55, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- Philosophy, theology, and fundamental theory of canon law → Canon law (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I had RfDed this redirect in April 2021. At the time, the consensus was to keep this redirect since it had existed from 2016 to 2021 and that therefore other websites could link to it.
However, in an RfD of January 2022, other redirects containing the same content and which were created at the same time were deleted per consensus, which motivates me to re-RfD this first redirect.
Moreover, while I have heard the argument of keeping a redirect for legacy purposes for redirects from before 2006 or 2007, I must say I find invoking this argument for such a relatively recent redirect not to hold much weight.
My arguments for this second RfD are as follow. First, those aspects of canon law are not mentioned at all at the target, and it is quite a stretch to expect that every legal system of a Christian organisation (which is what canon law is) has its own philosophy, theology, and fundamental theory. Second, I will add that the idea of a "fundamental theory of canon law" appears to stem from only one book on Catholic canon law, Justice in the Church: A Fundamental Theory of Canon Law by Carlos José Errázuriz.
I for the second time recommend deletion for this redirect. Veverve (talk) 16:48, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:16, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Pinging the participants of the two mentioned RfDs: Paul_012, CycloneYoris, Rosguill, Kusma, Hog Farm, mazca, BDD, TonyBallioni, and Tamzin. Jay (talk) 19:07, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Since it's been retargeted, the R from move concerns no longer apply, and it's an unlikely search term for the current target. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:21, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
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