Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 April 15
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 15, 2020.
Moon River (TV series)
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- The result of the discussion was Retarget two to The Return of Iljimae, delete one. signed, Rosguill talk 20:32, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Moon River (TV series) → List of programs broadcast by ABS-CBN (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Moon River (TV Series) → List of programs broadcast by ABS-CBN (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Moon River tv series2 → List of programs broadcast by ABS-CBN (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
While there was a TV series called Moon River broadcast by ABS-CBN in the Philippines, and Moon River (TV series) centered on this TV series, it was redirected here after it was pointed out its subject might not have been notable enough, and it's no longer mentioned in the list.
- Also, this...is a bit ambiguous, as it could refer to stuff like The Return of Iljimae (alternatively titled Moon River in its native South Korea) or this 2015 Taiwanese TV show I found on IMDb. As such, I'm thinking we could 1) disambiguate Moon River (TV series) and retarget Moon River (TV Series) there, 2) retarget the first two to The Return of Iljimae, 3) find a better target for both of them, or 4) delete them if none of these work (and I definitely suggest deleting the third unless a justification can be provided, as it was left over from a 2009 move done "for specifical procedure reasons"). Regards, SONIC678 23:49, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- I think that, since we have a clear primary topic, we should retarget the first two of these to The Return of Iljimae. The third of these should absolutely be deleted. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:00, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
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Women (song2)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 23:48, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Women (song2) → Women (Foreigner song) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Another instance of "2" at the end, which was done to distinguish this song from another one with the title "Women," and moved back in 2009 to the correct title. Not sure how useful this redirect is now, especially since Women lists multiple songs with that title. Regards, SONIC678 23:24, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - I agree. This doesn't seem helpful at all and thus isn't worth keeping. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 01:06, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. Arbitrary disambiguator. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:41, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete2. Ambiguous and unhelpful. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 21:31, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as housekeeping cleanup. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 01:01, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as ambiguous. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:00, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
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Pedal-cart
editRelisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 April 23#Pedal-cart
Template:0-7110-0554-0
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Unit redirects
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- The result of the discussion was delete. These redirects were picked up in a mass deletion for a user globally locked for long term abuse. Anyone in good standing may recreate. -- Tavix (talk) 18:58, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Watt per steradian per square metre → Radiance (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Kilogram per coulomb → Mass-to-charge ratio (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unlikely search term for the unit of measurement for radiance Utopes (talk / cont) 20:33, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Weak delete – These are unlikely terms per nom, and they do not seem to be listedunder SI derived unit, which I would have considered the most suitable target. —Quondum 21:05, 8 April 2020 (UTC)- @Quondum: "watt per square metre steradian" is at International System of Units. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:04, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- Retarget to SI derived unit, where it is listed as watt per steradian square metre. I was overhasty; it is a one of the plausible variants that might be used. I stick with the position that an article that lists (and links) associated quantities for which a unit is used is always better than one about a specific quantity, hence the retarget (even in the case where only one such quantity might exist on WP). —Quondum 14:52, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Quondum: "watt per square metre steradian" is at International System of Units. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:04, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
OpposeKeep - Having a compound unit redirect to the article that provides information on the quantity that unit measures makes sense. Redirects are cheap. It's not even clear to me what problem the nom is trying to solve with this proposal.--Srleffler (talk) 13:54, 9 April 2020 (UTC)- I respectfully disagree. For every unit, there are many different quantities that it can be used to measure (often of different kinds), making such a redirect specific to an arbitrarily selected quantity. Secondly, quantities can be measured in any unit system, so such a redirect loses specificity about the system they are part of. An article like SI derived units, on the other hand, lists multiple quantities per unit that it can be used to measure and is specific to the relevant unit system, thus being suited on both counts, the only issue being that the unit is not yet listed there. If the redirect is merited as a compound unit, then an entry at SI derived unit should be created. (pinging Srleffler) —Quondum 14:33, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- If you can come up with any other physical quantity that is measured in watts per steradian per square metre then I'll agree. As far as I can see, this unit is pretty specific to radiance. The fact that other unit systems exist is irrelevant. This unit is the SI unit of radiance. SI derived unit provides no useful information about this unit whatsoever, other than that it is the SI unit of radiance. Redirecting to Radiance provides the user the same information, and without the difficulty of searching through all the irrelevant material at SI derived unit in hopes of finding what they need. I agree with you in general, but I think your argument fails for this particular unit.--Srleffler (talk) 00:07, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- Uh-oh – now I have a challenge to meet . How about energy flux density? (W/m2 – since SI rules do not permit rad and sr to be considered significant.) Disallowing the gaming of unit semantics, a realistic quantity is irradiance per solid angle of the sky in view, which is basically the irradiance equivalent to the radiance case,
but nevertheless a distinct quantityDamn. I see they're conflated under the term 'radiance'. I give up. Nevertheless, dropping my purist hat for a moment, I will concede that in the looking-for-information context, the keep option might be more helpful in most instances because of the hunting factor in the table. So I guess I should say retarget/keep ... —Quondum 01:41, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- Uh-oh – now I have a challenge to meet . How about energy flux density? (W/m2 – since SI rules do not permit rad and sr to be considered significant.) Disallowing the gaming of unit semantics, a realistic quantity is irradiance per solid angle of the sky in view, which is basically the irradiance equivalent to the radiance case,
- If you can come up with any other physical quantity that is measured in watts per steradian per square metre then I'll agree. As far as I can see, this unit is pretty specific to radiance. The fact that other unit systems exist is irrelevant. This unit is the SI unit of radiance. SI derived unit provides no useful information about this unit whatsoever, other than that it is the SI unit of radiance. Redirecting to Radiance provides the user the same information, and without the difficulty of searching through all the irrelevant material at SI derived unit in hopes of finding what they need. I agree with you in general, but I think your argument fails for this particular unit.--Srleffler (talk) 00:07, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Srleffler: I assume by "Oppose" you mean "Keep" (at Redirects for discussion)? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:00, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- Yes.--Srleffler (talk) 00:07, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- I respectfully disagree. For every unit, there are many different quantities that it can be used to measure (often of different kinds), making such a redirect specific to an arbitrarily selected quantity. Secondly, quantities can be measured in any unit system, so such a redirect loses specificity about the system they are part of. An article like SI derived units, on the other hand, lists multiple quantities per unit that it can be used to measure and is specific to the relevant unit system, thus being suited on both counts, the only issue being that the unit is not yet listed there. If the redirect is merited as a compound unit, then an entry at SI derived unit should be created. (pinging Srleffler) —Quondum 14:33, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- Comment See also #Tesla-metre below. Certes (talk) 14:14, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Both target articles specifically mention that these are the appropriate SI units for the topic, and I don't think they're ambiguous (are they?). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:00, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
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UFC Ultimate Fight Night
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Drinking in Fiji
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- The result of the discussion was redirect to various culture and cuisine articles. I see a strong consensus to retarget the final four redirects, and a weak consensus to retarget the first three. signed, Rosguill talk 20:31, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Drinking in French Polynesia → Kava (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Drinking in Papua New Guinea → Kava (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Drinking in the Cook Islands → Kava (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Sure, kava is one beverage that gets consumed in these countries... – Uanfala (talk) 00:16, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete all per nom, and because these redirects are vague. They could refer to beverages to drink, or even subjects such as Legal drinking age. Steel1943 (talk) 18:28, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Retarget to:
- Not perfect, and some sections are empty, but as close as I can find. Those articles may need updating as a result, but I think I've we're going to have anything about these topics, these locations are a good start. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:01, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
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- Retarget all - I support what Shhhnotsoloud has proposed. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:06, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete the first three, we should not be retargeting to an article where there is no information on the topic. Retarget the last four per Shhhnotsoloud. -- Tavix (talk) 17:09, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Retarget all per User:Shhhnotsoloud. Kava is not the only beverage that is drunk in those countries. JIP | Talk 16:33, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
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Viram Deo
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- The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 19:56, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
"Deo" is not mentioned anywhere at the target page Utopes (talk / cont) 22:47, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- Comment देव (deva) is apparently transcribed as "deo" sometimes. There are multiple languages using Devanagari script and I don't speak any of them, so I don't know if this is restricted to some languages or what. But similarly, Special:Search/"deo" "deva" shows a lot of Wikipedia articles where that alternative spelling is listed.. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 06:17, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep - As stated above, this appears to be an issue about alternate spelling. I'm not sure. Still, I lean to keeping this given the lack of harm. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:08, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Keep as a straightforward pronunciation/spelling variant (schwa deletion variable rendering of व as v~w~o). There appear to be other historical figures with the name, but we don't have articles about them at present, so the current target is fine. – Uanfala (talk) 22:10, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
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Covidiot
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Planck molar mass
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- The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 19:00, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Planck molar mass → Planck units#Derived units (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Planck molar volume → Planck units#Derived units (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Planck mass fraction → Planck units#Derived units (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Planck volume fraction → Planck units#Derived units (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Planck molality → Planck units#Derived units (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Planck molarity → Planck units#Derived units (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Planck angular jerk → Planck units#Derived units (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Another day, another batch of original Planck units not mentioned at the target. I suggest deletion. signed, Rosguill talk 20:26, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. We have some typos in there too it seems. Utopes (talk / cont) 21:57, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete all – All seven do not exist as given unit names (they don't occur and would never be used, and just because it starts with "Planck" does not mean that it is a unit or would be coherent with the others if it is). —Quondum 22:02, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete all per Quondum. Wikipedia is not for Planck units you invented one day. XOR'easter (talk) 22:52, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete all per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:52, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
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Best of Eurovision
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- The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 20:28, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Best of Eurovision → Die Grand Prix Hitliste (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Best of eurovision → Die Grand Prix Hitliste (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The programme was never called Best of Eurovision; this name was likely (mistakenly) taken from the title of this article. There are no hits on Google for a programme called Best of Eurovision, other than this Wikipedia page. As Best of Eurovision is not an alternative name for the programme which is actually called Die Grand Prix Hitliste, the redirect should be deleted. ― Ætoms [talk]
- Delete per nom - not an acceptable redirect as it will see little to no use and is in no way related to the target page. Kirbanzo (userpage - talk - contribs) 01:08, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete both - I agree. This appears to be a clear-cut case. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:12, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Grk1011 (talk) 19:17, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
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(a)fternoon EP
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- The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 21:32, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- (a)fternoon EP → Afternoon (EP) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The “EP” at the end seems unlikely. I've created (a)fternoon now. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:22, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per K4 and also seems a fairly plausible natural disambiguator. — J947 (user | cont | ess), at 20:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. Searchbar clutter, and non-standard disambiguator. "X EP" is only acceptable if it's the official title of an EP, not for just any EP titled "X"; see e.g. the EPs mentioned at Evanescence#1995–2001: Formation and early years. Narky Blert (talk) 22:33, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete, noting that (a)fternoon exists. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:03, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Shhhnotsoloud: As noted in the nomination. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 11:27, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
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Lists of Commandants of Cadets of the United States (disambiguation)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 21:32, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Lists of Commandants of Cadets of the United States (disambiguation) → Lists of Commandants of Cadets of the United States (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The target is not a disambiguation page, it is a list of lists, which does not disambiguate the term "Lists of Commandants of Cadets of the United States" because that phrase is not ambiguous. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:02, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - I agree. This seems useless. Deletion is totally the right call. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:12, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
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Cuna de lobos (upcoming TV series)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 21:32, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Cuna de lobos (upcoming TV series) → Cuna de lobos (2019 TV series) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This Cuna de lobos series has already been released, so why would it still be "upcoming?" Also, compared to its target, it gets very few page views. Regards, SONIC678 16:19, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as obsolete. It can always be recreated if another new series is planned. Narky Blert (talk) 19:49, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- Keep redirect from move. All the best: Rich Farmbrough (the apparently calm and reasonable) 01:32, 10 April 2020 (UTC).
- Keep per K4, this has high views from old links. — J947 (user | cont | ess), at 01:57, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. The target is no longer "upcoming"; for that reason, this redirect is now misleading. Page views can't fix an erroneously-titled redirect. And deleting such redirects has years of precedence on WP:RFD. Deleting redirects such as these really should be considered WP:G6. Steel1943 (talk) 17:43, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- So it's kind of misleading... and what? This is very unlikely to be searched up and it transports readers to the place where they would want to go anyway. External links from slightly outdated, fairly-trafficked web pages will be broken with next to none gain. — J947 (user | cont | ess), at 03:04, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- ...And searchers of these terms would de facto assume their targets are "upcoming" since it is part of the disambiguator, which they are not. That's the reason why there has been continuous precedence to delete redirects like these. If you want one of the "D" reasons for why this should be deleted, see D2 and D5, both of which apply. Steel1943 (talk) 20:39, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Barely anyone will search this up in the normal fashion; the views are produced from links – and if anyone does search this up, they're likely to skim through the lead and notice "oh, it's no longer upcoming". Do we really want to inconvienience a lot of readers for very little gain? If we're arguing via policy then a preface to the deletion reasons is:
You might want to delete a redirect if one or more of the following conditions is met (but note also the exceptions listed below this list):
. K4 and K5 apply in leaps and bounds, rendering arguable interpretations of D2 and D5 invalid. — J947 [cont] 23:18, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- Barely anyone will search this up in the normal fashion; the views are produced from links – and if anyone does search this up, they're likely to skim through the lead and notice "oh, it's no longer upcoming". Do we really want to inconvienience a lot of readers for very little gain? If we're arguing via policy then a preface to the deletion reasons is:
- ...And searchers of these terms would de facto assume their targets are "upcoming" since it is part of the disambiguator, which they are not. That's the reason why there has been continuous precedence to delete redirects like these. If you want one of the "D" reasons for why this should be deleted, see D2 and D5, both of which apply. Steel1943 (talk) 20:39, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- So it's kind of misleading... and what? This is very unlikely to be searched up and it transports readers to the place where they would want to go anyway. External links from slightly outdated, fairly-trafficked web pages will be broken with next to none gain. — J947 (user | cont | ess), at 03:04, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as misleading, this is not an upcoming TV series. -- Tavix (talk) 00:46, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete - Agreed. We have clear-cut precedent for deleting redirects with false information such as this one. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 16:57, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete, as usual for (upcoming) redirects. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:04, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
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War of the Ninepenny Kings
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- The result of the discussion was no consensus for some, delete others. I see a consensus to delete #1 and #4, and no consensus for #2, #3, or #5. However, as no one has suggested keeping #5, I'm going to go ahead and implement the suggested redirect as preferable to simply keeping it, with no prejudice against further discussion or renomination. signed, Rosguill talk 21:31, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- War of the Ninepenny Kings → A Song of Ice and Fire (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- War of the Usurper → A Song of Ice and Fire (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- The War of the Usurper → A Song of Ice and Fire (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Pronunciation of names in A Song of Ice and Fire → A Song of Ice and Fire (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- House Connington → A Song of Ice and Fire (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at the target page. Not a very active user (talk) 10:33, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. Not mentioned in the target. Narky Blert (talk) 14:15, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- For sure delete the first, third, fourth, and fifth. The second used to be an article that was turned into a redirect because someone thought it was trivial. Since the article it redirects to no longer contains any mention of the redirect, I suggest to revert it back to an article. OcelotCreeper (talk) 16:07, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Relisting comment: I see a clear consensus for 4/5 of these, but given the minimal discussion I'm opting to relist on behalf of the remaining one.
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- Delete all - Even when we're talking about a pretty famous series, it's not appropriate to have redirects such as these where the terms aren't mentioned at all when the readers open up the target page. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 09:21, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect House Connington to A Dance with Dragons#Characters. All the best: Rich Farmbrough (the apparently calm and reasonable) 01:27, 10 April 2020 (UTC).
- Keep War of the Usupurper and vaients, this is another name for Robert's Rebellion. All the best: Rich Farmbrough (the apparently calm and reasonable) 20:42, 10 April 2020 (UTC).
- I support retargetting War of the Usurper, The War of the Usurper and House Connington per Rich Farmbrough's comments. These redirects shouldn't be deleted, as there are plausible alternate targets for them. Not a very active user (talk) 07:43, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
Relisting comment: More discussion could be warranted, as there is still no consensus as to which redirects should be retargeted and which should be deleted.
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2984/New speak
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- The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 00:02, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
Unlikely typo in the unlinked old R from subpage. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:47, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Into the memory hole. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 13:15, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. Wrong millennium and a typo (two words for one). Narky Blert (talk) 17:06, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Strong keep. This is from March 2001. Deleting this is blatant disregard for policy and our history. — J947 [cont] 20:34, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Strong delete March 2001 killed the real 1984's Morton Downey Jr. and the biker from The Village People. Some say it was lung cancer. Some history is best left forgotten. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:28, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as misleading due to the wrong millennium, noting there's no policy stating that old redirects must be kept and a WP:VAGUEWAVE to a nonexistent policy is unhelpful. -- Tavix (talk) 18:02, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per Tavix. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:36, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. Also, 2984 links to an entirely different subject. --Bsherr (talk) 16:14, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
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20th century/Maternal death rates
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Military of Wake Island
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Chomskybot
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- The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 21:26, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Chomskybot → Parody generator (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This is not mentioned nontrivially in any article. An article about it was deleted by AfD in 2014. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:36, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- The 2014 AfD is actually Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chomskybot (2nd nomination) not the 2006 one linked above, whose result was keep. Andrewa (talk) 15:36, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Keep and investigate why reference to Chomskybot has been removed from the article(s) concerned. The AFD result was keep [1] but that's in 2006 so something peculiar is going on here. Andrewa (talk) 17:49, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Drmies did it in 2015, along with several others that they deemed to be linkspam. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:05, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- That's easily "investigated": it was mentioned in the article with a link to http://rubberducky.org/cgi-bin/chomsky.pl this], which delivers some great internet fun for geeks and linguists (guilty as charged) but has no verifiable relevance in the world at large. So, Andrewa, that AfD was from 2006 and those AfDs don't have a lot of currency anymore; I doubt that that one would have closed as "keep" today. Note that the only "keep" argument in there is essentially this: "This is a decent article about reasonably well-known, well-documented script that has been around for over a decade, and widely adapted to other purposes"--there is no evidence anywhere in the AfD that there is notability, and nothing in the deleted article, which you can read with your admin glasses. So that's why I removed it from an already terrible article. Drmies (talk) 15:55, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- The main problem here seems to be that it's difficult to find RSS in the cloud of blogs and the like that reference this and other parody generators. Does a Mental Floss article on Chomskybot count? Probably borderline. Andrewa (talk) 15:53, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Drmies, that's a good start. And you're saying that there was a second AfD in 2014 and LaundryPizza03 simply linked above to the wrong one when they raised this, is that correct? I'll look for it, a link to it will make the investigation far easier (some meaningful edit summaries would also help). Andrewa (talk) 15:08, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- So for clarity's sake: delete--it's not mentioned in the article for a very good reason: there is not independent sourcing whatsoever to prove that this little thing on the internet matters at all. Drmies (talk) 12:31, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- I assume you have looked for sources with negative results, and that I'll find these results in the correct AfD, is that also correct? Andrewa (talk) 15:08, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- If this were andrewpedia, I'd flag this as R with possibilities as Chomskybot is so famous that I'm sure the sources are there, but finding them is not easy and I don't have time to do it before this closes, and nobody else seems interested. Of course I'll go with the consensus here. Agree that the deleted article was woeful. Hopefully this discussion will be helpful when an article is (inevitably IMO) created. Andrewa (talk) 16:31, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- I assume you have looked for sources with negative results, and that I'll find these results in the correct AfD, is that also correct? Andrewa (talk) 15:08, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - I don't really have anything to add to the above arguments. Deletion seems to be the right call. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 14:53, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Did you find the correct AfD? Just to save me and others looking? Andrewa (talk) 15:08, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Never mind, I found it, see above. Andrewa (talk) 15:32, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Did you find the correct AfD? Just to save me and others looking? Andrewa (talk) 15:08, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
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.aaa
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to List of Internet top-level domains#aaa. signed, Rosguill talk 21:25, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- .aaa → American Automobile Association (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The TLD is not mentioned at the target. Maybe an anchored link to the list entry at List of Internet top-level domains#Brand top-level domains would be better? Either that or add it to the article. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 11:10, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Retarget to List of Internet top-level domains#aaa per nom and precedent. — J947 [cont] 23:48, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
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Test equipment (disambiguation)
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- The result of the discussion was delete WP:SNOW, target is not a disambiguation page -- JHunterJ (talk) 19:22, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
- Test equipment (disambiguation) → Test equipment (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
"Test equipment" is a broad term and the target is an article about test equipment, and the different types of test equipment. The target does not perform a disambiguation-like function because all the topics linked from the article are not known solely (or even partially) as "test equipment". Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:43, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - Agreed. I don't see this as being useful. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 13:35, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
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Cranial fossa (disambiguation)
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- The result of the discussion was delete WP:SNOW, target is not a disambiguation page -- JHunterJ (talk) 19:22, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
- Cranial fossa (disambiguation) → Cranial fossa (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The target article is not a disambiguation page ("cranial fossa" is not ambiguous); it is an article that describes the 3 cranial fossae. The article does not really perform a disambiguation-like function because the subtopics listed in the article are all WP:partial title matches. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:39, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - I agree. This isn't appropriate and shouldn't be kept. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:32, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete This is a useless disambiguation page. No one will search for it, no one will link to it. Natureium (talk) 15:02, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
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Encylopedia
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- The result of the discussion was keep. signed, Rosguill talk 21:24, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Encylopedia → Encyclopedia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Encylopedia Britannica → Encyclopædia Britannica (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Encylopedia Judaica → Encyclopaedia Judaica (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Encylopedia Judeica → Encyclopaedia Judaica (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Encylopedia of New Zealand (1966) → An Encyclopaedia of New Zealand (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Encylopedia of Mathematics → Encyclopedia of Mathematics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Encylopedia of Art → Encyclopedia of Art (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Encylopedia britannica → Encyclopædia Britannica (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Encylopaedia → Encyclopedia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Encylopædia → Encyclopedia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Encylopædia Dramatica → Encyclopedia Dramatica (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Encylopédie anarchiste → Sébastien Faure (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Encylopédistes → Encyclopédie (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Jewish Encylopedia → The Jewish Encyclopedia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Illustrated Encylopedia Of Aircraft → Illustrated Encyclopedia of Aircraft (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- 1911 Encylopedia → Encyclopædia Britannica Eleventh Edition (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Online Encylopaedia of Mathematics → Encyclopedia of Mathematics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Sotheby's Wine Encylopedia → The Sotheby's Wine Encyclopedia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Catholic Encylopaedia → Catholic Encyclopedia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Great Soviet Encylopaedia → Great Soviet Encyclopedia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
It was mentioned at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Redirects and categories#Redirect request: Encylopedia Dramatica, Encylopaedia Dramatica that these are not plausible redirects. Also Encylopedia Judeica and Encylopedia britannica are incorrect in multiple ways. Peter James (talk) 09:22, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. I concur. --Bsherr (talk) 13:50, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Fairly weak delete, while I can see someone forgetting the first "C," I don't know how plausible of a misspelling that is, also adding Sotheby's Wine Encylopedia, 1911 Encylopedia, Jewish Encylopedia, and some more here.
Keep - though I may be missing something. (I don't understand the general rationale for deleting redirects, since other things being equal having these redirects seems a Pareto improvement over not having them.) In the particular case which brought me here (Encylopédistes -> Encylopédie) I wrote the redirect in order to use it in André-François Deslandes. Dsp13 (talk) 16:41, 15 April 2020 (UTC)Haha strike that, I didn't see that all these (including the one I had created) are missing a 'c'between the 'y' and the 'l'.Dsp13 (talk) 16:45, 15 April 2020 (UTC)- Delete. Unhelpful misspellings, clutter. Narky Blert (talk) 17:07, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Delete most, since these titles are generally implausible. Almost all of these began either as a redirect for a page that was moved immediately (e.g. Encylopedia of Art, moved to the right spelling just eight minutes after creation) or began as a redirect to the right spelling and therefore wouldn't have any intentional links. Only two exceptions: Illustrated Encylopedia Of Aircraft should be kept, because the article was at that title for almost a year — it's highly likely to have links, e.g. from old versions of Wikipedia articles. Encylopedia can make a good typo redirect. It's different from all the "Encylopedia of X" titles, because getting one word right except for a letter is much more likely than getting multiple words right except for a single letter. Nyttend backup (talk) 19:05, 15 April 2020 (UTC)- Keep How are these implausible? I’m generally confused by that argument. They look like alternate spellings to me? Given, I’m the worlds worst speller, but I’m really baffled as to what I’m missing.
I have no problem changing my vote if people can point this out, butthese seem like normal redirects that I’d use. Addendum: I’d written the above before I realized they were missing a C. Still keep. If it took me 10 minutes of looking at them trying to figure out the issue, they’re not implausible misspellings. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:36, 15 April 2020 (UTC) - Keep; these are perfectly plausible misspellings. (I didn't notice the misspellings for a while either) Very nice views for some of these. — J947 [cont] 22:41, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: Just click on "links" for the first entry, and you'll see that people mistype this word with some frequency. Searching for "encylopedia" in all namespaces yields 14,000 hits. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:59, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Comment. That means there are 14,000 errors in English Wikipedia which need fixing (although the ones on talk pages can be mainly ignored). I've posted at Wikipedia talk:Typo Team#Encylopedia. Narky Blert (talk) 05:40, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Keep all. The argument in my last sentence was disproven by the Encylopedia Britannica statistics. I don't care if it seems plausible or not — if lots of people are using a set of redirects, and if they show up thousands of times in text, they're plausible. No objection to renomination of individual items that both seem implausible and that get minimal usage. Nyttend backup (talk) 15:20, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Keep all: it's a common misspelling of a difficult word. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 17:05, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. The sheer number of redirects is evidence that it's a commonly misspelled word. -- Tavix (talk) 17:52, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
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Corticosteroid receptor (disambiguation)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 21:24, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Corticosteroid receptor (disambiguation) → Corticosteroid receptor (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The target article is not a disambiguation page ("Corticosteroid receptor" is not ambiguous); it is an article that describes the different types of corticosteroid receptors. The article does not really perform a disambiguation-like function because the subtopics listed in the article are all WP:partial title matches. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:21, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - I agree. We should simply be rid of this. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 19:39, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete weird to have a disamgiguation as a redirect. The article does not perform a disambig function, as mentioned by nom. --Tom (LT) (talk) 05:02, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
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Superior alveolar nerves (disambiguation)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 21:24, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Superior alveolar nerves (disambiguation) → Alveolar nerve (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Alveolar nerve (disambiguation) → Alveolar nerve (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The target article is not a disambiguation page ("alveolar nerve" is not ambiguous); it is an article that describes the different types of alveolar nerve. The article does not really perform a disambiguation-like function because the subtopics listed in the article are all WP:partial title matches. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:25, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete both - Agreed. Neither of these are appropriate. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 15:03, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete weird to have a disamgiguation as a redirect. The article does not perform a disambig function, as mentioned by nom. --Tom (LT) (talk) 05:02, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Uw-innapropiate1
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- The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 21:24, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Template:Uw-innapropiate1 → Template:Uw-inappropriate1 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Template:Uw-innappropriate1 → Template:Uw-inappropriate1 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Template:Uw-innappropriate2 → Template:Uw-inappropriate2 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Moved in November 2019 due to a misspelling. A Template:Uw-innappropriate3 was cut-and-paste moved by the creator and is tagged for speedy deletion per T3. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 08:06, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete the first for multiple errors. Weak delete the other 2 because I don't think we really need redirects for misspellings of templates. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:41, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. Misspellings for templates typically are not needed. --Bsherr (talk) 13:15, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete, creating redirects for template typing errors is scope creep. Hog Farm (talk) 15:47, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. In some circumstances, a template typo title can be useful for editors, and deleting the template can damage old versions of articles where they're used. However, user warning templates are meant to be substituted, so we shouldn't have this template visible in old versions. Nyttend backup (talk) 19:07, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Comment It seems that the templates themselves are nominated for deletion here. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:03, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per above. — J947 [cont] 23:41, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
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Scandal (fragrance)
editRelisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 April 23#Scandal (fragrance)
CutiePie
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Template:Uw-bdp
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- The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 21:23, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Template:Uw-bdp → Template:Uw-biog2 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Vague title for a redirect, as {{subst:uw-biog1}} also mentions recently deceased persons. Merged as a result of Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 May 25#Template:Uw-bdp. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:30, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. Redirects from single-level to multilevel UW templates are problematic because they presuppose the level to be used. --Bsherr (talk) 16:25, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
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Fifteen (American/Japanese Release)
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- The result of the discussion was delete -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:45, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Fifteen (American Release) → 15 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Fifteen (Japanese Release) → 15 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
These used to redirect to the title 15 (album) (specifically referring to the Buckcherry album), except that term now redirects to the disambiguation page 15 because of more albums with that title, rendering these titles ambiguous (the American/Japanese release of what?). Regards, SONIC678 05:27, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. Incorrectly capitalised and ambiguous. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:42, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete both - Neither of these seem appropriate. I agree. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 10:38, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. As noted, these started out as two separate articles about the American and Japanese editions of 15 (Buckcherry album), at a time when we didn't have any other articles about albums titled 15 yet, and got merged into a single article about the album since that's how we're supposed to do that kind of thing. As the other articles got created, these got repointed to the disambiguation page as incomplete disambiguation — but they have no encyclopedic value in that context. And while we used to have a rule that redirects from page moves always had to be retained for GFDL attribution reasons even if they weren't otherwise useful, that's long since been deprecated — but even if it hadn't been, the retargeting means they aren't actually serving that purpose anymore anyway. Bearcat (talk) 14:31, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete (both) no longer serving the intended purpose--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 15:10, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete (both) A no-brainer. Mattbrundage (talk) 17:51, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
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IComparing talian Fascism and German Nazism
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- The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 21:22, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- IComparing talian Fascism and German Nazism → Fascism in Europe (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Comparing talian Fascism and German Nazism → Fascism in Europe (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This seems like a questionably plausible search term, especially "IComparing talian." While I can see someone forgetting the first I of "Italian," it might potentially cause confusion with something called Talian. SRegards, ONIC678 05:07, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete IComparing as implausible and both as confusing. Just clutter. Narky Blert (talk) 05:28, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete, unambiguously created in error. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:43, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete both - These aren't helpful and certainly shouldn't be kept. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 10:46, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. To me it seems obvious that someone intended to copy/paste "Comparing" at the start, but accidentally pasted it after the first letter instead of before. Definitely not something we should be supporting. The second one isn't particularly useful, either. Nyttend backup (talk) 19:09, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete both per nom.
- Delete Oddly enough, I read it as Tallinn. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 01:28, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. I concur. --Bsherr (talk) 16:22, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
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Anisul Haque
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Anisul Huq. signed, Rosguill talk 21:22, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Anisul Haque → Annisul Huq (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Retarget to Anisul Huq. Not necessarily means a Bangladeshi businessman. Soumyabrata stay at home wash your hands to protect from coronavirus 05:00, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Retarget per nom to the disambiguation page Anisul Huq. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:45, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
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