Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 October 19

October 19

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 19, 2016.

Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy/Arguments/Image-Display

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:20, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Could this be a test page? The /Image-Display redirect held the text "hmm" before being redirected, and the other redirect has always been one. I don't see what use these pages serve. -- Tavix (talk) 18:08, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Randy Stockmaster

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 17:30, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Non-notable principal of a non-notable elementary school that has been redirected to the school district per the norm for non-notable elementary schools. This was apparently part of a test case on lower level school articles. See Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 125#Rechallenging the right for any type of school to have its own article! and the school article redirect discussion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Green Springs Elementary School (Ohio). Meters (talk) 17:25, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Danish cartoons (without pictures)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Fully agree with the comments made by Thryduulf and BDD. Given those concerns, I feel like an earlier deletion would have been justified under WP:IAR and WP:SNOW, given the delete !votes.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:51, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, incorrect redirect without any edit history. I'm assuming there was a proposal for a separate article without the depictions of Muhammad? Whatever the case, there is consensus that some depictions are okay for the article, making this redirect inaccurate. -- Tavix (talk) 16:51, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete too vague and not a term used for the event like "Danish cartoon crisis". there's also a "Danish cartoons" redirect to the same page so this is an unnecessary disambiguation. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:00, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Vague and otherwise just not helpful. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 17:34, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as misleading. If someone was searching for this they would not be happy to end up at the target which features pictures of Danish cartoons. Thryduulf (talk) 12:11, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Thou shalt not make graven images, I believe is in the book of Moses or something, oh hang on that is the Christain old testament, and in the Talmud, and in the Koran... rather much depends on what you mean by graven image. It seems not to mean photo-engraving, or photogravura, for example, the nearest we get is lithograph, I think, gravura is too far away. Si Trew (talk) 10:58, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I don't see any other option here, and I'm essentially forgoing my right to close the discussion, but I feel compelled to comment here. This is about as harmful as a redirect can get. I'm sure its creation was in good faith, but now, it's extremely malicious. I completely respect WP:NOTCENSORED and the display of the cartoons at the target article. But dangling a search term like this in front of readers who may be looking for information on the topic without viewing the cartoons themselves is cruel and misleading. --BDD (talk) 17:04, 24 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Islamic boycott

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The result of the discussion was delete all. JohnCD (talk) 17:26, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This can't be the only or most notable boycott involving Muslims and/or Islam. Do we have a better target for these redirects? -- Tavix (talk) 16:43, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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A Cat

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The result of the discussion was retarget to International A-class catamaran. --BDD (talk) 20:04, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

We don't have similar redirects for other pets. SSTflyer 10:02, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Noting that 'A cat' is red. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 06:40, 12 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 16:07, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Hyde Covered Bridgee

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 17:25, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as recent obvious typo. Correctly spelled redirect was created one minute later. Speedy tag removed. I wouldn't bother except misspelling shows up on dropdown in Search box. Station1 (talk) 16:03, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Soyuz 2

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 October 31#Soyuz 2

Joseph Baena

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. SSTflyer 04:55, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or retarget to Raw Deal (1986 film). SSTflyer 12:56, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep SSTflyer, sorry, I don't understand the objection, Baena is mentioned in article and would be too young for any connection with that film. Boleyn (talk) 16:24, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Bodybuilding competitions featuring arnold schwarzenegger

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 18:28, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Is this a valid search term? SSTflyer 12:54, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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THATCHER!

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The result of the discussion was delete. No comment on the Broadway prospects for Si's musical. JohnCD (talk) 17:23, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thatcher is a disambiguation page. SSTflyer 12:53, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Write for Obama we know our RS (yes!)
Was he from Hawaii, do you have to guess *yes!)
The first non black man black man who ever was pres
And made it a roaring success (or didnt, depending on your point of view)
He is the guy whose old wife is a charmer
She wows all the folks saying hubby's Obama
Now she is the one that should be underdressed
The voters expect quite nothing less.... the voters expecks nothing less (or more, depending on your point of view).
Would that be a suitable opening intro, and suitably NPOV? Si Trew (talk) 11:16, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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THATCHER

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:02, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thatcher is a disambiguation page. SSTflyer 12:52, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete no affinity to all caps. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 14:59, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    I find it much more likely than not that someone searching for "Thatcher" in all caps is looking for the prime minister. She motivated a lot of ill feeling, not that I make any argument either way. Per the lede at All caps: "Short strings of words in capital letters appear bolder and "louder" than mixed case, and this is sometimes referred to as "shouting"." Anyone shouting "THATCHER" (or "THATCHER!", for that matter) is certainly more likely than not looking for the prime minister. If this redirect (and the one above) is deleted, I think perhaps MAGGIE! or Maggie! should be created, given its use in the infamous socialist battle cry "Maggie Out" (i.e. Maggie, Maggie, Maggie! Out! Out! Out!).--Nevéselbert 19:00, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I see your reasoning, User:Neve-selbert, but I disagree. People searching for Thatcher will just search for Thatcher. That their mobile phone doolalies capitalise it is because of this redirect, not because of them typing it that way. Or they are just lazy. What the real problem is is that Thatcher is a DAB and THATCHER is not. So we have things that vary in case, and that's always a tricky one. As a British person, I would say THATCHER was primary for Margaret Thatcher, it is not as if people are going to look for people who do thatching, though I know a couple of people who do exactly that (and one of them, his wife is called Margaret, which is another roll-your-eyes job as if that's the first time they ever heard that one), but that would be a WP:SURPRISE. I think best to take it to the DAB at Thatcher. Retarget to DAB per AngusWOOF as {{R from ambiguous page}}. Si Trew (talk) 11:24, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. While I believe Margaret Thatcher would be the primary topic for "THATCHER", I do think it might be a tad confusing to have "Thatcher" and "THATCHER" go to different places. The all-caps isn't necessary so I believe it's safe to delete it. -- Tavix (talk) 14:39, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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List of artists influenced by Christina Aguilera

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The result of the discussion was Retarget to Christina Aguilera#Legacy. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 21:48, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The article talks a lot about artists that influenced Xtina, but not vice-versa. SSTflyer 12:37, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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List of unreleased Christina Aguilera songs

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 17:32, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Article does not contain such a list. SSTflyer 12:37, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to note that we do have List_of_songs_recorded_by_Christina_Aguilera#B-sides_and_unreleased_songs, but that's fundamentally different given that B-sides are, by definition, songs that do see large-scale release. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 17:37, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, and there's more B-sides: this is pretty much WP:FUTURE as the R. If they are released even as B sides, and I don't know what that means these days because i remember when you had to get up to your dansette and actually change it over to the B side, so it can't mean that any more, so it must mean "stuff to fill up the release" or something like that. By the way Funky Moped was a hit only because of it being on the B side, the A side the BBC refused to play, while at the same time employing its performer. Si Trew (talk) 11:33, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sheesh we don't have an article about Funky Moped. I better get on that. Performed by Jasper Carrott. Si Trew (talk) 11:34, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Kalvin Harries

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 October 31#Kalvin Harries

Calvin harris (band)

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The result of the discussion was delete both'. JohnCD (talk) 17:18, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A person, not a band. SSTflyer 12:32, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Steinski & David Guetta

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:24, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"Steinski" not mentioned in article. SSTflyer 12:25, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Panheads

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 18:20, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in article. SSTflyer 12:24, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Zeppelin, Led

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. The discussion doesn't look likely to change after a relist. I'd agree that {{R from sort name}} isn't called for since this isn't a normal or proper way to sort the band's name. I'll leave it at {{R unprintworthy}}. --BDD (talk) 19:58, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A band, not a person. SSTflyer 12:23, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Someone who is not familiar with the target subject (since there is always someone who is not familiar with something) may think otherwise. And just because WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS doesn't necessarily mean it's correct or helpful either. Steel1943 (talk) 14:48, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
In fact, it's discussions such as this one that may help determine if the status quo for similar things should remain. Steel1943 (talk) 17:53, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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List of appearances by Carrie Underwood

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:51, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Article does not contain a list of appearances. SSTflyer 12:22, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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CarrieUnderwoodAppearances

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:50, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not a likely search term. SSTflyer 12:21, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Disturbing the comfortable, comforting the disturbed

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Finley Peter Dunne#Legacy. JohnCD (talk) 17:13, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Huh? SSTflyer 12:20, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Lights Tour 2010

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Lights (Ellie Goulding album)#Tour. JohnCD (talk) 16:54, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Propose retargeting to Lights (Ellie Goulding album)#Tour. SSTflyer 12:17, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Bonny Bear

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:30, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in article. SSTflyer 12:16, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Halcyon Tour

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The result of the discussion was retarget to The Halcyon Days Tour. JohnCD (talk) 16:32, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to The Halcyon Days Tour. SSTflyer 12:15, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • @SSTflyer: WP:JUSTDOIT. Retarget proposals shouldn't be at RFD unless they're controversial, and I'm not seeing why this particular redirect would be. The proposed target was the original target, before a couple double redirect fixing bots moved it to the current target. -- Tavix (talk) 15:27, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Country Winston Marshall

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The result of the discussion was retarget both to Winston Marshall. JohnCD (talk) 16:41, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Winston Marshall or delete. SSTflyer 12:11, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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No Phun Intended

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Tyler Joseph. JohnCD (talk) 16:28, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in article, non-notable. SSTflyer 11:58, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Turkish Beliebers

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:22, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Article does not contain any information related to Turkey. SSTflyer 11:57, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Port 25565

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 November 1#Port 25565

Ариана Гранде Бутера

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:57, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not a valid WP:FORRED. SSTflyer 11:52, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Alcohollica

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The result of the discussion was delete both. JohnCD (talk) 16:19, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in article. SSTflyer 11:07, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Metallicats

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:18, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in article. SSTflyer 11:07, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Bay Area Metallibangers

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:17, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in article. SSTflyer 11:07, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Mtlca

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 16:17, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No evidence this refers to the band. SSTflyer 11:06, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep -
  1. Per WP:R#KEEP, "If someone says they find a redirect useful, they probably do".
  2. The redirect was created years ago, so IMO the time has passed for changing the redirect without significant confusion. Alleged confusion is not very plausible at all. So absent evidence of any harm there is no reason to delete.
  3. "There seems to be no evidence of confusion, just conjecture on the part of nominator, and no argument grounded in WP:R. Laziness is the exact purpose of redirects, to be perfectly honest, and the creator of a useful redirect that saves one or two characters should be commended. We don't delete redirects based merely on conjecture. Someone obviously found these useful given they were created."
  4. "One of the lowest things one can do is steal another mans tools. So you have no use for it. There is zero reason to take away something that has no higher use."
  5. "Redirects are cheap. There are lots of little abbreviated things pulled up over the years such as {{tlc}} or {{tlx}} or whatever as useful shorthand for editors."
  6. If {{Tlc}} and {{Tlx}} are acceptable names for templates, my redirect is also acceptable as it is. If not, it should be renamed. --Jax 0677 (talk) 13:06, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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State Chairman

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 October 31#State Chairman

SAITM : The Green Campus

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The result of the discussion was Deleted by admin User:Anthony Appleyard, as noted himself below. (non-admin closure) by Si Trew (talk) 10:53, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect was created in good faith by the administrator immediately after deleting the original, a blatant spam article fork of the redirect target by an employee of the university. The only mention I can find online of "the green campus" in connection with this university is in one of their own press releases, and it seems highly unlikely anybody would be searching for the university with those terms, Wikishovel (talk) 08:34, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:AO-sobimatu

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 16:16, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, seems to be in Estonian, this is the English Wikipedia - probably falls under the category of being an implausible redirect. FASTILY 04:28, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Love Yourself

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The result of the discussion was Speedy close. This came about from an improper move away from this title, which has been restored. Use WP:RM to suggest moving the page. Cúchullain t/c 04:34, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A part of work to make 'Love Yourself (disambiguation)' moving to 'Love Yourself'. Maestro 121 (talk) 02:44, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Deletion, strongly supported of it -- nominator's vote. This wiki is too Justin-focused. There's several "Love Yourself" too!--Maestro 121 (talk) 03:04, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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