Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Kmweber/Welcome template

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was Delete. Eluchil404 (talk) 19:22, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Inappropriate welcome template, misrepresents most of our rules by saying "you should be aware that most of these [so called "policies"] totally non-binding. Generally, they are simply descriptions of what has typically happened in the past, that at most are suggestions that we are not obligated to abide by." Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 01:22, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Actually this template says ceetain rules are there for legal reasons. Nor does it say "notability is a crock" of anything. It specifically says to try improving WP -- which, I trust, is a non-censorable opinion. I fear reading too much into something may be a bad thing. Collect (talk) 17:47, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • While it does say that certain rules are present for legal reasons, it also says that the rest are "descriptions of what has typically happened in the past" and "suggestions that we are not obligated to abide by". Treating 3RR or NPOV (for instance) as "suggestions" is terrible advice. Zetawoof(ζ) 20:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep Kmweber recently left wikipedia.
All of knweber's user subpages meet Wikipedia:Subpage guidelines, even more than some of the nominator's own user pages (they are more directly related to wikipedia).
User:Majorly and User:Macy (Except on this page) made sure to be the first and second editors to vote delete in all of these user pages.
Ten pound hammer supported the community ban of Kmweber: Kmweber community ban proposal (3rd), and also opposed his Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2008/Vote/Kmweber
travb (talk) 11:52, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This is a user template, and if the editor is in fact gone, he will no longer be using it. The editor is welcome to his opinion, editors are not going to go crazy because they have this template on their user page. travb (talk) 10:49, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I'm going to have to disagree with Newyorkbrad here - I think this is actually one of the few of Kmweber's pages which has some merit to it. Granted, the welcome message is somewhat 'political', but I don't think it says anything that's actually incorrect or incompatible with Wiki-policy; I would not have a problem with users being welcomed with this template. Terraxos (talk) 21:59, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I think it is kind of pointless to keep this if the newbie will be directed to a "this user has left Wikipedia" when he tries to contact Kmweber.--Lenticel (talk) 07:21, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. While the template might not actually break any rules, using it unneccesarily confuses new editors which is harmful to Wikipedia. Just because it's allowed, doesn't mean it's a good idea. -- Mgm|(talk) 13:52, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.