Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Kosovo
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 03:55, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
- Portal:Kosovo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- (Time stamp for bot to properly relist.) Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 07:51, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
Yet again, an abandoned portal. This one has been abandoned since 2008 as a static page, with one selected article, one biog etc. Mostly the same topics as 11 years ago.
Created[1] in January 2008 by Prevalis (talk · contribs), who last edited in 2014.
Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Kosovo shows a small set of sub-pages:
- Portal:Kosovo/Selected article/1. Same topic (Pristina) since the page was created in 2008[2]
- Portal:Kosovo/Selected biography/1. Same topic (Bekim Fehmiu) since 2017; previosu chnages in Oct 2016[3], April 2012[4], July 2010[5], and possibly some before that
- Portal:Kosovo/Selected picture/1. same pic (File:Monument of Brotherhood and Unity in Pristina.jpg) since 2012. Most entries are much older. Per WP:DYK, "The DYK section showcases new or expanded articles that are selected through an informal review process. It is not a general trivia section" ... but this eleven-your-old list loses the newness, so its only effect is as a trivia section
WP:POG#How_often_to_update? says that unless automated, the content selection should be updated monthly, or preferably weekly. Even on a monthly cycle, this pseudo-portal has missed over 100 updates.
Per WP:PORTAL, "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects". But this is massively less useful in every respect than the head article Kosovo and its navbox {{Kosovo topics}}.
As a limited-recognition state, Kosovo could be considered in theory to be a broad topic, despite its population of only two million. But WP:POG requires that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers" ... and in practice this has not attracted maintainers, and in 2018 it got only 13 pageviews per day.
Two newish features of the Wikimedia software means that the article and navboxes offers all the functionality which most portals like this set out to offer. Both features are available only to ordinary readers who are not logged in, but you can test them without logging out by right-clicking on a link, and the select "open in private window" (in Firefox) or "open in incognito window" (Chrome).
- mouseover: on any link, mouseover shows you the picture and the start of the lead. So the preview-selected page-function of portals is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links. Try it on e.g. Kosovo or on the navbox {{Kosovo topics}}.
- automatic imagery galleries: clicking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually much better than a click-for-next image gallery on a portal. Try it by right-clicking on the article Kosovo.
Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.
This raises the bar quite high for anyone considering making a new portal on this topic. But there should probably be a wider discussion on that ... so I propose that this portal and its sub-pages be deleted, with prejudice against re-creating it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:18, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - I am not sure why this partially recognized country portal should be deleted with prejudice, but it should be deleted. The portal had 10 daily pageviews in January and February (and 13 daily in 2018). The interest may be there. The head article had 6104 daily pageviews in Jan-Feb 2019. But there needs to be a more general discussion of the labor-intensive nature of miniature Main Pages before any of these deleted portals are re-created, as I have tried to address in The Problems with Portals. In the meantime, delete. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:32, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 07:51, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - Abandoned draft of a portal, 21 subpages, created 2008-01-14 03:11:57 by User:Prevalis. Never went alive. Nothing to keep. Portal:Kosovo. Pldx1 (talk) 21:28, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.