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The Wiki-train was a train party organised by some Wikimedians from central and western Europe to go to Wikimania 2010 by rail. The outbound Wiki-train left London St Pancras on July 5, 2010, was received by a group of local Wikimedians in Cologne, and arrived in Gdańsk on July 6.
The return Wiki-train left Gdańsk on July 12 and stopped in Poznań for dinner. The group arrived in Cologne in the morning of July 13, from which individual members of the train party continued to England, France and the Netherlands.
- Members of the outbound Wiki-train
- Ironholds
- Shimgray
- — Werdna
- Witty Lama
- Bastique
- James F.
- Tango
- Aphaia
- Ash_Crow
- Seb35
- Edhral
- Deryck C.
- Manuel Schneider Annette and Linus (Köln - Gdansk)
- In Cologne, the train party was received by
- Members of the return Wiki-train
Original planning discussions for the Wiki-train are preserved in the sections below.
For Cologne/Wikitrain meetup, see also de:Wikipedia:Treffen der Wikipedianer/Köln/Archiv#Meetup Wikitrain July 5th / Stammtisch 5. Juli (ausnahmsweise im Brauhaus Früh).
What?
editA large number of people will be attending Wikimania, and many of those will pass through London to get to Danzig. Since large amounts of travel are taxing on the mind and body, I thought we should organise some sort of amusement for the travel-ees and group together for the journey to Danzig itself. Ironholds (talk) 14:35, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Why the train?
editSome of us prefer to travel by rail for many perhaps irrational reasons, including:
- Trains are more comfortable and dignified than planes.
- Going by rail gives you the chance to see the sights along the way. Our proposed itinerary includes stopovers in Brussels, Belgium, Cologne in Germany, and Poznan in Poland.
- We like the copious opportunities to sit around and chat, play games, etc during the journey.
- Going by rail is more adventurous than going by air – it is fun, and the journey itself is interesting.
- Train stations are more convenient than airports.
- Lower carbon footprint
- Train runs even when island volcanoes erupt.
Travellers in the main group from London
editOutbound journey
edit- Departing London around 13:00 July 5th, arriving in Gdansk the next day around 13:00. Cost: €190 (If we can get 10 people), otherwise €220
This journey takes us across Northern Europe in a 5–hour trip from London to Köln, diving under the English Channel and rocketing through French and Belgian countryside on the famous Eurostar. We'll disembark at Brussels for a brief stop before reboarding a brand-new high-speed train to Köln. We'll arrive mid-afternoon, whereupon we will have dinner and meet fellow travellers from elsewhere in Western Europe. After a 21:47 sunset, we'll board our sleeper train, the classic Jan Kiepura, which runs from Amsterdam to Moscow, at 22:28, arriving into Poznan at 07:32. We'll then catch a Polish Domestic train across Eastern European countryside to our destination: Gdañsk, arriving in time for a well-earned lunch.
Itinerary
edit| Departure Time | Departure Station | Train | Arrival Station | Arrival Time | Cost (group rate) | Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 12:57 | London St. Pancras | EST 9132 | Bruxelles-Midi/Brussel-Zuid | 16:03 | £60 | |
| 16:28 | Bruxelles-Midi/Brussel-Zuid | THA 9441 | Köln Hbf | 18:15 | £29 |
|
| 22:28 | Köln Hbf | EN 447 | Poznań Główny | 07:19 | €80 (at least 16 tickets, 2 x 6-berth, 1 x 4-berth cabins) | |
| 04:21 | Berlin Ostbahnhof | EN 447 | - | ? | ||
| 08:22 | Poznań Główny | TLK 65100 | Gdańsk Główny | 13:42 | PLN 40 (€10) |
|
Train members
editFrom London
edit- Ironholds (talk) 14:35, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
and partner - Shimgray | talk | 22:31, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- — Werdna • talk 11:38, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
- Witty Lama 13:40, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- 75% sure Bastique demandez 17:58, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- James F. (talk) 20:58, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- Tango (talk) 18:20, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
ϢereSpielChequers 05:36, 22 May 2010 (UTC)- Aphaia (talk) 16:04, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
From Brussels
edit- Dereckson (talk) 15:39, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- Ash_Crow (talk) 21:18, 31 May 2010 (UTC) (Seb35 told me he was interrested too but he doesn't answer the phone right now)
- ~ Seb35 [^_^] [fr] 22:22, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- I hope I will find tickets... (I know I'm late for registration here) I'm in for the two trains : for Gdansk and from Gdansk, till Paris. --Edhral 17:27, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
From Köln / Cologne
edit- Totally like this idea,
although he wants to spend even more time in Germany! Will probably head to Germany another week early and join the trip at Cologne.Confirmed: will join the Wiki-train at Cologne on the way to Danzig, and join the Wiki-train all the way on the way back from Danzig to London. Please contact me about ticketing details. --Deryck C. 14:58, 27 March 2010 (UTC)- I will probably be spending time in Cologne after Wikimania, instead of before. — Andrew Garrett • talk 04:48, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
- Manuel Schneider(bla) ( /-) 15:42, 22 May 2010 (UTC) Annette and Linus (Köln - Gdansk)
From Poznan
edit- Chuck SMITH 11:08, 29 April 2010 (UTC) - 25% likely to board at Poznan
Return journey
editNOTICE: For travellers on the return Wiki-train: We're meeting in Gdańsk Główny at 12:30 to buy tickets and catch the 13:13 train to Poznan. We will meet for dinner with a few local Wikimedians in Poznań before taking the 21:33 night train to Cologne. --Deryck C. 09:10, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- Plans for Poznan reception fell through, unfortunately. --Deryck C. 10:25, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Itinerary
edit| Departure Time | Departure Station | Train | Arrival Station | Arrival Time | Cost (group rate) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 13:13 | Gdańsk Główny | TLK 57102 | Poznań Główny | 17:35 | PLN 40 (€10) |
| 21:33 | Poznań Główny | EN 446 | Köln Hbf | 06:14 | €69 |
| 06:44 | Köln Hbf | THA 9412 | Bruxelles-Midi/Brussel-Zuid | 08:32 | £29 (unconfirmed) |
| 09:29 | Bruxelles-Midi/Brussel-Zuid | EST 9119 | London St. Pancras | 10:26 | £60 (unconfirmed) |
Note: The Köln - Brussels train goes on to Paris
Attention: TLK, Tanie Linie Kolejowe means Cheap Train Service so when you are travelling in second class (8 or 6 seats per compartment) you are not assigned a seat. So it is first come, first served. If there are a lot of passangers you may end up standing, so consider buying or upgrading to first class tickets (6 seats per compartment) for the TLK train with assigned seats.
Travellers
edit- Catrope (talk) can't make the outbound journey, but I'm in for the return journey
possibly, up to somewhere I can take a train to Paris. guillom 16:00, 31 May 2010 (UTC)I'll take the plane. guillom 05:10, 22 June 2010 (UTC)- You stay in the Thalys, he goes on to Paris. Arrival time: 9:59 am --Dereckson (talk) 21:55, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- Probably. — Andrew Garrett • talk 14:39, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, to London. --Tango (talk) 02:04, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
- Possibly, to Poznan where to transit.
Maybe/hope soFor sure! To Paris. Jean-Fred (talk) 20:51, 3 July 2010 (UTC)- Me and User:Ash Crow. ~ Seb35 [^_^] [fr] 06:59, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
- To Paris. -- Edhral 10:07, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
- To London. --Deryck C. 21:36, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- To Basel --luzazul 08:10,10 June 2010 (UTC)
- As Seb35 said, I will take the return train (to Paris) -Ash_Crow (talk) 21:39, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Travelers from other West-European countries
editFrom elsewhere in the UK
editBuy a ticket to London International (CIV). Most station staff will not have heard of this destination, its code is LNE and its NLC is 5470. This ticket includes all British Rail and TfL trains to get to St. Pancras. Details at seat61 Be sure to join the London meetup as well if you can :)
From the Netherlands
edit- Take domestic trains to Amsterdam CS/Utrecht CS/Arnhem, change to the ICE International to Köln Hbf-Frankfurt Hbf and join the group at Köln Hbf OR take the aforementioned IC to Berlin and change at Rheine to the IC to Köln Hbf OR join the sleeper train in Amsterdam at 19:38. For the return journey: EN 446 continues to Arnhem, Utrecht CS and Amsterdam CS.
From Belgium
editTake domestic trains to Brussel-Zuid/Bruxelles-Midi and join the group there.
From France
editTake domestic trains to Paris Nord and change to the Thalys to Köln Hbf. The group will get on this train at Brussel-Zuid/Bruxelles-Midi
From Germany
editTake domestic trains to Köln Hbf, Hannover Hbf or Berlin Hbf (whichever makes sense) and join the group there.
- we take ICE508 from Basel SBB, arriving 15:05 in Cologne main station. --Manuel Schneider(bla) ( /-) 14:14, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
From Italy
edit- From Milano, joining group dinner at Köln: EC 14, EC 6 (Milano Centrale 9:10 – Zürich HB 12:51-13:08 – Köln Hbf 19:05) (2nd class: special fares 43,50/63,50 €, standard fares 148,10 €).
- From Milano, joining group at Köln: EC 52, ICE 870, IC 2318 (Milano Centrale 11:20 – Basel SBB 15:32-16:12 – Mannheim Hbf 18:23-18:39 – Köln Hbf 21:05) (2nd class: special fares 43,50/93,50 €, standard fares 159,50 €).
- From Milano, joining group at Dortmund: EC 52, ICE 870, ICE 514 (Milano centrale 11:20 – Basel SBB 15:32-16:12 – Mannheim Hbf 18:23-18:35 – Dortmund hbf 21:21) (2nd class: special fares 43,50/63,50 €, standard fares 191,50).
- From Milano, joining group at Hannover: EC 18, ICE 272 (Milano Centrale 13:10 – Zürich HB 16:51-17-02 – Hannover Hbf 00:03) (2nd class: special fares 43,50/? €, standard fares 182,10 €).
- From Milano, joining group at Hannover: EC 34, IC 831, ICE 376, ICE 592, ICE 732 (Milano Centrale 12:25 – Brig 14:16-14:49 – Bern 15:54-16:04 – Mannheim Hbf 19:14-19:31 – Göttingen 21:59-22:05 – Hannover Hbf 22:40) (2nd class: special fares 43,50/63,50 €, standard fares 187,50 €).
- From Milano, joining group at Berlin: EC 52, ICE 870 (Milano Centrale 11:20 – Basel SBB 15:32-16:12 – Berlin Hbf 23:25) (2nd class: special fares 43,50/103,50 €, standard fares 197,50 €).
- From Milano, joining group at Berlin: EC 34, IC 831, ICE 376, ICE 592 (Milano Centrale 12:25 – Brig 14:16-14:49 – Bern 15:54-16:04 – Mannheim Hbf 19:14-19:31 – Berlin Hbf (tief) 00:23) (2nd class: special fares 43,50/63,50 €, standard fares 197,50).
From Czech Republic
edit- From Praha (Prague), through Warsaw, leaving Prague about 06:00, arriving Warsaw about 1pm, taking overnight train to Gdansk for arrival ~7:10am on July 7th, for WikiSym. Contact http://www.twitter.com/mrjcleaver
Crazy ideas
editMeetup with local Wikipedians
edit- Meetup in Cologne --Superbass (talk) 19:20, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Internet connection
edit- There is wifi in St. Pancras station and on the Thalys train. It would be fun to video-blog the trip, live where possible.
- I can provide GSM/UMTS connectivity with flatrate in Germany. It is not sufficient for video blogging (in the train), but for text it's fairly good. --Manuel Schneider(bla) ( /-) 15:45, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
- I will provide it in Belgium (but that's a small travel portion). --Dereckson (talk) 15:41, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Meetup attendees
edit- Ironholds (talk) 14:35, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- — Werdna • talk 03:03, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
- Witty Lama 13:40, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- 75% sure Bastique demandez 17:58, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- James F. (talk) 20:58, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- Tango (talk) 18:20, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
- ϢereSpielChequers 21:26, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
See also
edit- de:Wikipedia:ICE570: The first regular Wikipedia meetup in a train, in German train ICE 570.
- [1] Wikimania Takes Manhattan II, the Wiki-train to Montreal, 2017
- Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Toronto Wiki-Train