Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 3
January 3
editCategory:1788 establishments in Tahiti
edit- Propose merging Category:1788 establishments in Tahiti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:1788 establishments in Oceania
- Propose merging Category:1880 disestablishments in Tahiti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:1880 disestablishments in Oceania
- Propose deleting Category:1880 disestablishments in French Polynesia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1780s establishments in Tahiti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1880s disestablishments in Tahiti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1880s disestablishments in French Polynesia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:18th-century establishments in Tahiti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:19th-century disestablishments in Tahiti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:19th-century disestablishments in French Polynesia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2nd-millennium establishments in Tahiti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2nd-millennium disestablishments in Tahiti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2nd-millennium disestablishments in French Polynesia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1788 in Tahiti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1880 in Tahiti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1880 in French Polynesia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1780s in Tahiti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1880s in Tahiti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1880s in French Polynesia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:19th century in Tahiti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Years of the 18th century in Tahiti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Years of the 19th century in Tahiti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Establishments in Tahiti by year (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Establishments in Tahiti by decade (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Establishments in Tahiti by century (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Establishments in Tahiti by millennium (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Disestablishments in French Polynesia by millennium (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Disestablishments in French Polynesia by year (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Disestablishments in French Polynesia by decade (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Disestablishments in French Polynesia by century (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Disestablishments in French Polynesia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Disestablishments in Tahiti by year (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Disestablishments in Tahiti by decade (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Disestablishments in Tahiti by century (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Disestablishments in Tahiti by millennium (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Decades in Tahiti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Years in Tahiti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Large tree for only the Kingdom of Tahiti article. Merge/delete per WP:NARROW. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:29, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:41, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Impact and legacy of Taylor Swift
edit- Nominator's rationale: With or without a needlessly repetitive title—having just "impact" or "legacy" would be enough—this category comes off as fancruft. Anything that doesn't even contain those words or Taylor's name in the page titles can be safely removed. We shouldn't turn the website into Swift-o-pedia by lumping simply anything related to her into categories. It might also go against WP:Overcategorization#By being associated with based on the pages I saw it used for. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 22:32, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- As the category's author, allow me to clarify the situation. I created it because Category:Taylor Swift had a few too many entries. To reduce them, I took inspiration from Category:Impact and legacy of Madonna. I do like Swift's music, but I had no intention of creating any fancruft. The vast majority of my edits on Wikipedia are not even related to her. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 22:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Not sure what the "too many entries" threshold you're referring to is, but for anything she's not personally involved with, one could reasonably remove her main category from those pages. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 22:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- As the category's author, allow me to clarify the situation. I created it because Category:Taylor Swift had a few too many entries. To reduce them, I took inspiration from Category:Impact and legacy of Madonna. I do like Swift's music, but I had no intention of creating any fancruft. The vast majority of my edits on Wikipedia are not even related to her. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 22:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Purge, e.g. Who Cares (Paul McCartney song) does not belong here. Perhaps merge back to Category:Taylor Swift. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to Category:Taylor Swift. The legacies category is for articles with "Legacy of" in the title. Same with the cultural impact category for cultural impact articles. They are not the same and should not be combined. (We can nominate the Madonna one if people agree.) Mike Selinker (talk) 00:58, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- FYI, a proposal to rename Madonna's category was already started at WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 4#Category:Impact and legacy of Madonna before I read your comment. Any opinions you or others have on it can be discussed on that thread. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 01:03, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Wikipedian miscellaneous pages
edit- Nominator's rationale: Too broad which is not how categories work. 43.249.196.179 (talk) 22:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Comment:: See Category_talk:Wikipedians#Container_category and Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#43.249.196.179_(again) for more context.
- Delete, this does not serve any collaborative purpose. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:15, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Fiction about giants
edit- Propose merging Category:Fiction about giants to Category:Giants in popular culture
- Nominator's rationale: merge, no clear distinction between the two categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Go for DELETION""".The nom is on to it. 22:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 43.249.196.179 (talk)
- Merge per nom. I cannot see the above comment as anything but disruptive, even though it is clearly not. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:34, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Forbes 30 Under 30
edit- Nominator's rationale: Non-defining award. Per the article Forbes 30 Under 30, "1,230 people under 30 years old" get this award each year. SMasonGarrison 20:22, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete This feels more like WP:TOPTEN but, regardless of the the exact editing guideline, it is not defining. - RevelationDirect (talk) 15:25, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Republican feminists
edit- Propose merging Category:Republican feminists to Category:American feminists
- Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between political party and political orientation. SMasonGarrison 18:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Manually merge, some articles are already in a subcategory of Category:American feminists. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:44, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Works set in churches
edit- Propose merging Category:Plays set in churches to Category:Works set in churches
- Propose merging Category:Short stories set in churches to Category:Works set in churches
- Propose merging Category:Television shows set in churches to Category:Works set in churches
- Nominator's rationale: merge, only one article directly in each of these categories, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:26, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
WP:DISNEY categories
edit- Propose deleting Category:File-Class Disney articles of NA-importance (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Template-Class Disney articles of NA-importance (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Draft-Class Disney articles of NA-importance (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Project-Class Disney articles of NA-importance (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Portal-Class Disney articles of NA-importance (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Disambig-Class Disney articles of NA-importance (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:FM-Class Disney articles of NA-importance (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Category-Class Disney articles of NA-importance (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: All files, templates, etc. are of NA importance to WP:DISNEY. Redundant to e.g. Category:File-Class Disney pages. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 09:48, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Church buildings in fiction
edit- Propose merging Category:Church buildings in fiction to Category:Church buildings
- Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:30, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to all parents: This also includes Category:Fiction about Christianity and Category:Buildings and structures in fiction. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:32, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:British Columbian provincial electoral districts established in 2023
edit- Propose renaming Category:British Columbian provincial electoral districts established in 2023 to Category:British Columbian provincial electoral districts established in 2024
- And proposed renaming Category:Canadian federal electoral districts established in 2023 to Category:Canadian federal electoral districts established in 2025
- Nominator's rationale: Proposing that this category should be renamed to Category:British Columbian provincial electoral districts established in 2024. While I understand the rational behind why the category was originally named the way it was (the new destricts where decided upon in 2023), it doesn't make logical sense as they only came into effect (elected members) in 2024. The naming practice included here also doesn't follow what categories for other countries do on Wikipedia. i.e. the UK, where the Category:Constituencies of the Parliament of the United Kingdom established in 2024 exists for constrituencies which came into effect (established) in 2024, but were approved in 2023. On the United States, where congressional districts are sorted by the year they are first occupied, i.e. 2023 for North Carolina's 14th congressional district, and not the year they are apportioned and drawn (2021) or first elected (2024). I believe most other countries follow this latter practice as well.
Similar nomination for Category:Canadian federal electoral districts established in 2023 to Category:Canadian federal electoral districts established in 2025, but for new districts starting in 2025. Epluribusunumyall (talk) 05:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Support – Sounds good to me. RedBlueGreen93 22:31, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose – The articles are about WHEN the districts were established, which is 2023. It doesn't matter when the vote is held, it matters when the districts went into effect which is the year 2023, hence the name. User:RushtheeditorUser talk:Rushtheeditor 02:31, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:I (newspaper) journalists
edit- Propose renaming Category:I (newspaper) journalists to Category:The i Paper journalists
- Nominator's rationale: Changed name last year, and is ambiguous with i (Portuguese newspaper). Paradoctor (talk) 02:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Rename, consistent with article name The i Paper. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Black feminists
edit- Propose renaming Category:Black feminists to Category:Feminists of African descent
- Nominator's rationale: I'm on the fence between deletion and renaming. SMasonGarrison 01:23, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Rename per various CfD's for the deletion of Category:Black people. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:52, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, trivial intersection. Black feminism is specifically Afro-American while the category encompasses feminists from outside the US. If not deleted, rename. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:42, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Intersectional feminists
edit- Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between being a feminist and a type of feminism. At the very least, the child categories need to be purged/restored to the parent category. For example, being a Jewish feminist doesn't mean that they're an intersectional feminist. SMasonGarrison 01:21, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, not a defining characteristic (with very few exceptions). Marcocapelle (talk) 07:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Superwog
edit- Nominator's rationale: This category only contains the eponymous category along with two redirections. SMasonGarrison 00:55, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:00, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Doctor Who aliens
edit- Nominator's rationale: Two categories with a distinctly similar overlap. The aliens category is bizarrely covering individual characters who happen to be aliens (As well as the Sea Devils for some reason), while the races section is covering the alien species as it is. Due to the high overlap between the cats and the potential for confusion due to the naming, I am proposing to merge both categories into one "Doctor Who aliens" category that can adequately and inclusively cover both categories' content without losing any content. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 00:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Analog Drum Machine
edit- Propose renaming Category:Analog Drum Machine to Category:Analog drum machines
- Nominator's rationale: I don't work with categories much, so I have no opinion about whether this category is needed at all. However, if we're going to keep it, it should be renamed "Analog drum machines" (sentence case, plural) for consistency with category names per WP:CATNAME. Popcornfud (talk) 20:34, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete (or else rename per nom), the fact that they are analog isn't significant. The articles are already in Category:Drum machines so no need to merge. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:20, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 02:22, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Analog synthesizer drum machines - After looking through Drum machine#Roland TR-808 and TR-909 and Analog synthesizer, I think that this category merely needs a rename. There seems to be a difference between digital drum machines (which use recorded sounds/sampling), and these, which have analog synthesizer circuitry which generate the sounds. - jc37 21:47, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on jc37's suggestion?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:08, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Baseball players from Edwards County, Texas
edit- Propose merging Category:Baseball players from Edwards County, Texas to Category:People from Edwards County, Texas
- Propose merging Category:Baseball players from Cooke County, Texas to Category:Sportspeople from Cooke County, Texas
- Propose deleting Category:Baseball players from Comanche County, Texas (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Category with just two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 13:48, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Dual merge, also to Category:Baseball players from Texas. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:56, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep these were made as part of a larger effort to diffuse Category:Baseball players from Texas. I don't think sending them back to that category helps navigation. NOTE I took the liberty of combining the three separate nominations into one subheading. I hope no one minds.--User:Namiba 16:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Namiba's comment? And, if merged, also dual merge?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- The larger effort to diffuse Category:Baseball players from Texas goes against WP:OCLOCATION. Large categories are not a problem per se. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:11, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Perhaps, but there are hundreds, if not thousands, of similar categories. WP:DIFFUSE states "Although there is no limit on the size of categories, a large category will often be broken down ("diffused") into smaller, more specific subcategories." Regardless, there seems to be an informal community consensus that breaking down large categories into smaller categories by location is encouraged.--User:Namiba 19:34, 3 January 2025 (UTC)