Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 10
October 10
editCategory:Malagasy masculine given names
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Malagasy names. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:26, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Only one. Can EASILY be combined into main cat. Roasted (talk) 23:01, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Category:Malagasy names, is probably what nom means too. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:37, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
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Straggler LGBT categories
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) —Compassionate727 (T·C) 18:11, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:LGBT history in Virginia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:LGBTQ history in Virginia
- Propose renaming Category:LGBT history in Wisconsin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:LGBTQ history in Wisconsin
- Propose renaming Category:LGBT people from Manchester (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:LGBTQ people from Manchester
- Propose renaming Category:LGBT rights activists from Illinois (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:LGBTQ rights activists from Illinois
- Nominator's rationale: Categories which lack the Q; rename per Talk:LGBTQ#Requested move 14 August 2024, WP:CONSUB, WP:C2C, and WP:C2D. Similar renames have been opposed at CFDS, so I am starting a full discussion. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 18:55, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Rename, consistent with all previous article and category renames. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:53, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Rename as nominated. Raladic (talk) 14:23, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
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LGBT articles by importance
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- The result of the discussion was: speedy delete. I forgot about WP:C4. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 18:51, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:LGBT articles by importance (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:High-importance LGBT articles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Low-importance LGBT articles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Mid-importance LGBT articles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:NA-importance LGBT articles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Top-importance LGBT articles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Unknown-importance LGBT articles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: {{WikiProject LGBTQ studies}} does not actually take an
|importance=
parameter. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 18:47, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Shopping centres in Stirling (council area)
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- The result of the discussion was: dual merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:10, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Category containing a single category, unhelpful for navigation. Also merge to Category:Buildings and structures in Stirling (council area) AusLondonder (talk) 12:29, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Dual merge, category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:54, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:African aviators
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- The result of the discussion was: no consensus after thorough discussion; unlikely a WP:RELIST will help. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:11, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: There are no other aviators by continent categories (unless you want to count Category:Australian aviators). The other option is to create them and diffuse Category:Aviators by nationality. Clarityfiend (talk) 12:12, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Retain: What is done for one continent does not have to be done identically for all other continents, no such requirement. Very few aviators from Africa are the subjects of an article. This makes this category more notable. Pete unseth (talk) 12:51, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. If kept then I suggest create a Category:Aviators by continent and make for other continents as well. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:53, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, Category:Aviators by nationality suffices. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:56, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep and create other continental categories. Given the relatively small number of articles, it makes more sense to have a continental category than many small national categories.--User:Namiba 17:34, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Continental categories might make sense if and only if a significant number of nationality categories would be merged to them. I would only discuss that in conjunction. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:40, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Shopping malls in Sharjah
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- The result of the discussion was: dual merge. Categorization of Al Shaab Village can be discussed at Talk:Al Shaab Village. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:31, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Contains a single article and is unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 11:51, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Dual merge, also to Category:Sharjah (city). Marcocapelle (talk) 19:59, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Shopping malls in Ankara
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- The result of the discussion was: dual merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:26, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Shopping malls in Ankara to Category:Shopping malls in Turkey
- Nominator's rationale: Contains a single article and is unhelpful for navigation. Merge also to Category:Buildings and structures in Ankara. AusLondonder (talk) 11:45, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:59, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Shopping malls in Al Rayyan
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Shopping malls in Qatar and Category:Al Rayyan. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:47, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Shopping malls in Al Rayyan to Category:Shopping malls in Qatar
- Nominator's rationale: Contains a single article and is unhelpful for navigation. Merge also to Category:Al Rayyan. AusLondonder (talk) 11:29, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:01, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: do you support a dual merge, as suggested by nom? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:00, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- @HouseBlaster: correct. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:44, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: do you support a dual merge, as suggested by nom? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:00, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Mosques of Leicestershire
editRelisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 18#Category:Mosques of Leicestershire
Category:Streets in Crawley and Nedlands
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Category arbitrarily combining two suburbs of Perth, unclear. Contains one street and a list of streets. Appears to be WP:NONDEF. Propose a merge to parent category. AusLondonder (talk) 10:33, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support - at the time it was not arbitrarily, and for the record there were real life attempts in collaboration to work on the process of expanding material about streets in Perth. Seems to have died a death, some time ago. JarrahTree 10:42, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Merge, also because of lack of sufficient content. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:45, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Oronzio De Nora
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:28, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category that does not appear warranted as it contains only the company founded by the subject and his nephew who is notable for other reasons. AusLondonder (talk) 10:16, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- In addition to the three articles currently in this category, a fourth article which I plan to work on about Amuchina which Oronzio De Nora invented would also be in this category. Is there a minimum number of articles needed to warrant a category? I have seen many categories with less than 4 articles. Possummayhem (talk) 15:50, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, the category only contains articles which are only loosely associated with the subject. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:07, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- See related Category:Industrie De Nora S.p.A. Gjs238 (talk) 14:49, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- I added Matteo de Nora to Category:Industrie De Nora S.p.A. since that is where he works but it was removed... I may be misunderstanding how to use categories. Possummayhem (talk) 02:05, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- That is right, categories should contain articles about the topic of the category. For mere mention of a topic we have the "what links here" feature. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:06, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- I added Matteo de Nora to Category:Industrie De Nora S.p.A. since that is where he works but it was removed... I may be misunderstanding how to use categories. Possummayhem (talk) 02:05, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Labor disputes in Mali
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Only article in this category is 2020 Malian protests not a specific industrial dispute. Unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 08:10, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:08, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:2020s debut plays
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: I would like to propose Category:2020s debut plays for deletion; the scope of the category is near-identical to Category:2020s plays (recording the year/decade that a play is first performed) but also as the category, two-and-a-half years after creation, has only had two articles added to it. It is, in my opinion, redundant and requires deletion.--OGBC1992 (talk) 06:56, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment This nomination was malformed and has been fixed. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:17, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, the articles are already more specifically in Category:2022 plays and Category:2023 plays. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:11, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep in principle – this is part of Category:Debut plays – not for the first production date of all plays, but only plays that were the writer's first play produced. Compare the comprehensive parent Category:Plays by period. Your misunderstanding was justifiable, as the explanation displayed was inadequate. I have now revised template that provides the explanatory text,[1] making it more like e.g. Category:2020s debut novels. But delete for now as neither A Different Stage (musical) nor Boys from the Blackstuff (play) were debut plays (for Tim Firth or James Graham (playwright) respectively)! – Fayenatic London 13:08, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Statues of Simón Bolívar
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge to parent cat. Unnecessary intersection between person and location. Omnis Scientia (talk) 04:27, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Merge, I do not object to these categories per se, but currently they are not well-populated. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:24, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Plaza Bolívar (Valencia) could be added to Category:Statues in Venezuela, although it's not only about a statue. The other members are already within national categories for statues. – Fayenatic London 13:57, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Film and television memes
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- The result of the discussion was: keep but purge of things for which it is not defining. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:56, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: This category currently looks like a trivial and non-defining mess. It is filled with all of these different things known for their status as a meme. However not every single article in this category mentions the existence of a meme, and the redirects aren't helpful either because no sources can be applied to them. Furthermore, only very few out of the 329 pages in this category are for the individual memes themselves such as Truck-kun. Should we only include the individual memes, we would be left with less than 20 articles (no redirects included). If you are willing to oppose this request, please think for a minute and read this previous discussion that lead to the deletion of Category:Music memes [2]
QuantumFoam66 (talk) 04:10, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Purge, a category of almost 20 articles is still worthwhile to keep. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:27, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as this is part of multiple subcats of Category:Internet memes and is similar to Category:Video game memes (which has been around since 2005), so there is precedent for these types of cats. What could rather be beneficial is proposing a split of one cat for "films and television subject to internet memes" and another one pertaining to the memes themselves. Trailblazer101 (talk) 00:45, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- Purge. However, if a purge cannot be done or this category is again filled with this many unrelated entries, then it's better to just delete then have this cruft. For a page to fit this category it has to be about the meme, not something that mentions the meme, not a character that appears in the meme. Gonnym (talk) 10:34, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Malaysian hoteliers
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:56, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Malaysian hoteliers to Category:Malaysian businesspeople
- Nominator's rationale: Only has 1 entry. LibStar (talk) 03:53, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Upmerge – I tried populating it with PetScan, but all I could find was Gaston Dutronquoy (who might barely count as a Malaysian hotelier, by a technicality). jlwoodwa (talk) 04:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:28, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Ambassadors of the United Kingdom to North Macedonia
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:North Macedonia–United Kingdom relations. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:54, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful for navigation as only contains a list article, List of ambassadors of the United Kingdom to North Macedonia, which is already appropriately categorised. AusLondonder (talk) 03:21, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Upmerge for now – the list only has redlinks. I don't think the list article is
already appropriately categorised
– what about Category:North Macedonia–United Kingdom relations? Also, for future reference, this could have been speedied under WP:C2F. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:11, 10 October 2024 (UTC) - Thanks, you are right I will add that category. AusLondonder (talk) 04:44, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Upmerge for now – the list only has redlinks. I don't think the list article is
- Merge/delete per above discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:30, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Ambassadors of the United Kingdom to Guinea-Bissau
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. Categorization of Laurence O'Keeffe can be discussed at Talk:Laurence O'Keeffe. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:56, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Category containing a single article for someone who served as a non-resident ambassador. Pointless and unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 03:06, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete agree with nom. LibStar (talk) 03:54, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Category:Ambassadors to Guinea-Bissau, as I am not sure we should remove ambassadors if they are non-resident. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:33, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- My concern with that is where someone has simultaneously served as ambassador to multiple countries (six in the case of the only article in this category, five non-resident) it creates major category bloat. Take a look at Laurence O'Keeffe. AusLondonder (talk) 07:08, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
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Years in Shigatse
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:54, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:1973 in Shigatse
- Propose deleting Category:1984 in Shigatse
- Propose deleting Category:1991 in Shigatse
- Propose deleting Category:1998 in Shigatse
- Propose deleting Category:2010 in Shigatse
- Propose deleting Category:2011 in Shigatse
- Propose deleting Category:2014 in Shigatse
- Propose deleting Category:2017 in Shigatse
- Propose deleting Category:2022 in Shigatse
- Propose deleting Category:Years in Shigatse — added 7 October 2024
- Propose deleting Category:1343 in Shigatse — added 7 October 2024
- Propose deleting Category:Decades in Shigatse — added 7 October 2024
- Propose deleting Category:1340s in Shigatse — added 7 October 2024
- Propose deleting Category:1970s in Shigatse — added 7 October 2024
- Propose deleting Category:1980s in Shigatse — added 7 October 2024
- Propose deleting Category:1990s in Shigatse — added 7 October 2024
- Propose deleting Category:2010s in Shigatse — added 7 October 2024
- Propose deleting Category:2020s in Shigatse — added 7 October 2024
- Propose deleting Category:Centuries in Shigatse — added 7 October 2024
- Propose deleting Category:20th century in Shigatse — added 7 October 2024
- Propose deleting Category:21st century in Shigatse — added 7 October 2024
- Nominator's rationale: delete, this tree exclusively contains buildings and structures which we never put directly in a year category. For countries we have "establishments by year" categories but I have never seen that for cities. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:27, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Not enough contents to divide by year. I also added some more categories like it. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:49, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Has not been tagged for a full week. If there are no further comments in a week, we are all set for deletion :)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:10, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
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