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Category:21st-century German women violinists

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Queen of Hearts (talk) 20:16, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. This is an isolated category at an extremely narrow intersection of nationality gender century specific instrument. Notably there isn't a Category:21st-century women violinists parent Mason (talk) 22:16, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Israel Super Cup matches

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Queen of Hearts (talk) 20:17, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant category. Every article here is also in the main category. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 17:42, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Korean women independence activists

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. A sprawling discussion, and not one in which participants came to agreement on the future of the category. A different, specific follow up proposal might gain consensus. However, please try to remain calm and civil (and this is a general reminder to everyone). HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 17:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I'm the creator of the category now on an IP. I originally created the cat under the target name, but it was speedy renamed a while back. I think the new name is either incorrect or confusingly worded. My original scope for the category was "Women who advocated for Korea's independence", not "Korean women who advocated for independence". There were several non-Korean women in the category at time of renaming. 104.232.119.107 (talk) 12:39, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Smasongarrison Courtesy tagging the prev renamer; please lmk if my interpretation of the new name is incorrect 104.232.119.107 (talk) 12:41, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose rename and Propose splitting to Korean women independence activists and Women activists for Korean independence. Clearly, the original name was confusing as it could be interpretated as either. Mason (talk) 14:26, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support this proposal. 104.232.119.107 (talk) 14:42, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Misused header templates for establishments and disestablishments categories

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The result of the discussion was: soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request undeletion of these pages. (non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts (talk) 20:18, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Tracking categories for {{EstcatCountry}} and {{DisestcatCountry}} which are not actually used by either template, or anywhere for that matter. (See insource search) If kept rename to "[Dis]estcatCountry" to "[Dis]establishment category by country" per the corresponding template names. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 22:57, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Dobrujan Tatar

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Notably, of the people supporting a merge, there was no agreement about merge target(s). HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 17:41, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated category. It only has two articles: Dobrujan Tatar and Dobrujan Tatar alphabet. Everything can be included in the parent Category:Crimean Tatar language, as Dobrujan Tatar is a dialect of it (and the page on the dialect already includes this category). Super Ψ Dro 23:26, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It might sound confusing due to the geographic names but the Crimean Khanate once extended beyond Crimea and its population was semi-nomadic from what I understand. Dobrujan Tatar is a dialect of the Crimean Tatar language, this has been discussed already at Talk:Dobrujan Tatar. Super Ψ Dro 10:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks, I had not checked ths talk page. From what I understand of the discussion, the merge target should be Category:Kipchak languages. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • No, it has been not. We are not linguist at all. I, as a speaker of this language, disagree with it. The situation of this language is not clear!!!! Maybe you hear "it's a dialect" from somewhere and act with own knowledge, this is not a solution. The language is in discussion by SIL, and they noticed that the language is different than Crimean Tatar. The discussions are in progress. Zolgoyo (talk) 13:27, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Merge target?
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Relisting comment: Final relist
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Category:Wikipedians don't accept payments for contributions

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Queen of Hearts (talk) 20:18, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OC/U#all-inclusive * Pppery * it has begun... 15:50, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Secretaries

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The result of the discussion was: keep but remove Category:General secretaries from Category:Secretaries. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 17:22, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category is a mix of personal secretaries and political positions. split the category between them. Political secretaries are government ministers and shouldn't be here. Move Category:General secretaries to there as well. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:24, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:19th-century French politicians subcats

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Queen of Hearts (talk) 20:19, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Duplicates of Category:19th-century French politicians, Category:20th-century French politicians, Category:21st-century French politicians. See also Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 August 1#Category:18th-century French politicians subcats. Gonnym (talk) 08:04, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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People from the Savoyard State

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). Queen of Hearts (talk) 20:19, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, the Savoyard State was a composite state consisting of the Savoy homeland, Aosta, Piedmont and Nice (and Sardinia in a later stage). These categories are for the composite state. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:01, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is follow-up on this earlier discussion, @Smasongarrison: pinging contributor to that discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:08, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support rename. Thanks for following up! Mason (talk) 12:15, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Princesses in Germany

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Princesses in the German Empire after manually checking entries. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 17:37, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename for clarification that it is not about people after World War I, and to align with Category:People from the German Empire. Also check entries manually: if they do not belong here, they are likely to belong in Category:Princesses in the Holy Roman Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:45, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is follow-up on this earlier discussion, @Omnis Scientia and SFBB: pinging contributors to that discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:48, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom and previous discussion. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:24, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per previous discussion. SFBB (talk) 13:11, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle: do not forget to create Category:Princesses in the Holy Roman Empire add both categories to things such as Category:Princesses of Bavaria or Category:Princesess of Baden, etc (if any of those subcategories would happen to exist) akin to what is done in Category:Princes of Bavaria. Also Category:Prussian princes / Category:Prussian princesses require somer work according to the great job you're doing. SFBB (talk) 13:11, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ants described in 1758

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete (non-admin closure). Queen of Hearts (talk) 20:19, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale:
  1. Only 1 populated "Ants" category after 2 years.
  2. "Ants described in" previously CfD'd in 2018, per RfC.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  05:10, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:United States Army civilians of World War II

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Queen of Hearts (talk) 20:20, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. This category is majorly underpopulated, unhelpful for navigation at present, and doesn't seem to be defining. This is a 3x intersection of civilians of a specific country and specific military branch and specific war Mason (talk) 02:56, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:United States government people by war

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:United States government officials by war. (non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts (talk) 20:22, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete for now. There's only one category in here, which isn't helpful for navigation. I've added the lone child category to all the relevant parents Mason (talk) 02:04, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Concur with "officials" instead of "people". Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 13:53, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
will do. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 21:13, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Additional proposal per above discussion

Nominator's rationale: Proposal put forward with concurrence from others to rename several subcats per above discussion to better align with current cat structure. Note: if I need to move this proposal somewhere else to avoid a train wreck, please let me know. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 21:13, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Scholars by subfield

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 18:57, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The decision several years back to rename this Category using the term "subfield" is rather perplexing. Given the contents of the Category (which are fields, not sub-fields), as well as its original name ("Scholars by specialty or field of research" - it was actually a very poor choice of words, when the obvious choice was simply "field". Not to mention that its high-level parent is Category:Categories by field, not the non-existent Category:Categories by subfield. Anomalous 0 (talk) 10:55, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's alternative?
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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Queen of Hearts (talk) 20:24, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category is meant for pages that need Template:Dictionary of National Biography and might only be used by an inactive project. It seems all entries are manually placed which isn't helpful, but I also don't think this category itself is helpful. If the template is needed, just add it to the page. If the DNB link is on Wikidata is can get it automatically. There is no need for this additional tagging. Gonnym (talk) 07:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. This was a maintenance category for articles, and all the pages that remain in it are Talk: pages. It has therefore served its purpose, I would say. Charles Matthews (talk) 07:53, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:National Highways in China

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 August 23#Category:National Highways in China

Decades in the Colony of Virginia

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts (talk) 20:29, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Continuing from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 24#Category:Decades in the Colony of Virginia where the result was to populate the tree. To allow {{YYY0s in one of the Thirteen Colonies}} and related templates to work correctly and to match the parent Category:Decades in the Colony of Virginia and related categories (such as Category:Decades in the Massachusetts Bay Colony), the decade list should be renamed. I'll be doing the Colony of Virginia in batches. Gonnym (talk) 05:45, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: To avoid closing a 17 category nomination as unopposed.
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Fine with me. But it's probably helpful to include redirects to keep templates from misbehaving. Mason (talk) 02:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Emory and Henry College

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). Queen of Hearts (talk) 20:31, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Became a university on 8/1/2024 https://wcyb.com/news/local/emory-henry-on-track-to-transition-from-college-to-university-in-august https://www.emoryhenry.edu/live/news/3145-emory-henry-trustees-vote-to-approve wizzito | say hello! 10:37, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: The alumni and faculty categories were not tagged; I will do so.
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Support. This could have been speedied. Mason (talk) 02:07, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Discotek Media

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Category:Secretaries of State for Health and Social Services

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The result of the discussion was: rename as unopposed. (non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts (talk) 20:32, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Although the title of the former government department was the Department of Health and Social Security, the responsible secretary of state was the 'Secretary of State for Social Services'.[1][2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dgp4004 (talk • contribs) 15:53, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Richard Crossman, Secretary of State for Social Services (24 October 1968). "SECRETARY OF STATE for SOCIAL SERVICES". Parliamentary Debates (Hansard). Parliament of the United Kingdom: House of Commons. col. 1609. The House will notice that my title is wider than that of the proposed new Department. This is in recognition of the fact, as the Prime Minister mentioned in the House last week, that I have been asked to continue my coordination of the whole range of social services, in addition to my responsibility for the new Department.
  2. ^ "Records created or inherited by the Department of Health and Social Security and related bodies". The National Archives. Retrieved 1 August 2024. Following the report of the Committee on the Home Civil Service (Fulton Committee), the Department of Health and Social Security (DHSS) was created in November 1968. It was formed by the merger of the Ministry of Health and the Ministry of Social Security under a Secretary of State for Social Services. The Secretary of State was assisted by two ministers of state responsible for health and social security respectively; in 1976 a Minister of Social Security of Cabinet rank was appointed within the department.

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Category:Political parties of minorities in Canada

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 August 26#Category:Political parties of minorities in Canada

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