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Category:Weberocereus

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) User:力 (powera, π, ν) 19:54, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Only 7 possible entries, so better upmerged. Peter coxhead (talk) 21:52, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional feminist characters

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional feminists and women's rights activists. There is clear consensus to merge to Category:Fictional feminists and women's rights activists. TheSandDoctor Talk 07:08, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: This category currently has a major problem that its being added to tons of articles of female characters who simply happen to be considered strong and well liked by real life feminists, regardless of if the character actually identifies as a feminist in any way. ★Trekker (talk) 16:42, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Seal Harbor, Maine

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:57, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Seal Harbor, Maine is a village in the small town of Mount Desert, Maine. It does not have an article of its own and redirects to the town itself. This category also only contains two articles and that number is unlikely to significantly increase in the near future.User:Namiba 15:32, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support, with no prejudice against re-creation if and when a category is viable. Grutness...wha? 01:14, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale fighters

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 13:54, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Not defining ★Trekker (talk) 14:54, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Super Smash Bros. fighters

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: no consensus. I looked at a selection of members, and Smash was prominently mentioned, so the objection cannot be dismissed as having no weight. – Fayenatic London 13:56, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Not defining. ★Trekker (talk) 14:53, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See my reply for the below discussion on Category:SNK vs. Capcom fighters.
This one is a tad different, as I do think it is defining for the characters as well. (Oinkers42) (talk) 20:06, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
How?★Trekker (talk) 07:34, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It is a bit tough to describe, but characters like Jigglypuff, Ridley (Metroid), Shulk, and Wii Fit Trainer, among others, are just as important to Smash as they are to their home series. Also, Mr. Game & Watch is, in some ways, a Smash original character. This category is well maintained and just works as a category. There is no reason to delete it. (Oinkers42) (talk) 14:58, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That claim seems very unconvincing, being important to a series does not mean the series is defining for the character.★Trekker (talk) 22:06, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I meant to say that those characters are important because of Smash just as much as in their home series. (Oinkers42) (talk) 01:59, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:SNK vs. Capcom fighters

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:05, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Not defining for all but one article, the list ★Trekker (talk) 14:52, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@(Oinkers42): That does in no way whatsoever make it defining for the characters.★Trekker (talk) 10:03, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - at the very least, can we make it a list? (Oinkers42) (talk) 20:37, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@(Oinkers42): You can do it if you want to.★Trekker (talk) 21:00, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Marvel vs. Capcom fighters

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 14:00, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Not defining ★Trekker (talk) 14:51, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See my reply for the above discussion on Category:SNK vs. Capcom fighters.★Trekker (talk) 11:57, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Video game guest characters

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 13:46, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Not defining ★Trekker (talk) 14:39, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@(Oinkers42): You don't seem to understand, character categories are supposed to be defining for the characters, not the games.★Trekker (talk) 10:04, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Scribunto modules with errors

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:13, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: I can't find where this is called and I'm not even sure this is used anymore. Gonnym (talk) 10:11, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:ScribuntoUnit failed tests

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 November 27#Category:ScribuntoUnit failed tests

Category:Songs written by Mick Leeson

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 November 27#Category:Songs written by Mick Leeson

Category:Horrorcore artists

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 December 10#Category:Horrorcore artists

Category:Dyslexia support by country

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 December 29#Category:Dyslexia support by country

Small fraternity categories

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: keep (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:37, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Not enough content to warrant an eponymous category. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:24, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose - The Fraternity & Sorority Project is quite active, building these and related pages. We currently have 1,800 pages on our watchlist, adding more all the time. Rather than delete these sporadically, only to recreate them in a few months, please leave them be. We have the space. As we fully address the many fraternities, sororities and societies we track, we first build a main article, then a secondary article listing chapters (usually, if 30 or more), then we create a separate page for a list of notable members, then pages for the Founders, if notable, then any historic register buildings owned, then noteworthy news events that have articles, and finally, cite society membership of notable members on the articles written about these persons. Each of these will get the fraternity's category tag. Ditching and then re-creating these categories just makes more unnecessary work. Jax MN (talk) 16:11, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment -- The related lists are well-populated. The question is whether membership of each fraternity or sorority needs a category: I would have thought that if was a NN characteristic and not equivalent to alumni categories, but I am a poor judge as this is an American phenomenon. It should be sufficient to have a category for lists of chapters and another for lists of members. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:17, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment -- My sense is that the average reader approaches these categories as a member or researcher of a particular fraternal group, and NOT with the intent of looking at all the various lists of members of multiple societies. While a category of ALL chapter lists, or ALL notable members may be useful, I find the categories specific to each society to be a better nexus. I see your intent, but because we are actively working on these, and when built out, many of the societies could have ten associated pages, I would rather keep the cats in place. Jax MN (talk) 18:41, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose oftentimes categories with only two articles would be deleted. However, these do have a possibility of growth - a list of alumni is the first thing that comes to mind. They also make the category tree work better. That said, if the various lists-of-chapters articles are merged/deleted due to being a directory with only primary sourcing, I would change my mind: we can't have single-article eponymous categories. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 21:20, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per User:力 and Jax MN. --Just N. (talk) 21:39, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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