Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 January 26

January 26

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Category:Saskatchewan Huskies ice hockey players

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The result of the debate was Keep. Xiner (talk, email) 01:11, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Saskatchewan Huskies ice hockey players (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

List members would be non-notable. SERSeanCrane 22:31, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reason, as stated above, "List members would be non-notable." Use your eyes before your fingers, Thanks. SERSeanCrane 05:47, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I did, and be mindful of WP:CIVIL. Obviously the only biographies that would be added to this category are for players who are notable. You are arguing against this category because of your POV belief that nobody who played for the U of S could be notable. That is a complaint against an article that does not exist, not against this category itself. Resolute 23:57, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Works of Art: Artcars

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The result of the discussion was: delete. >Radiant< 12:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Works of Art: Artcars (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete category newly created for self-promotion. The category has only one article, the poorly written, unencyclopedic, improperly sourced, and autobiographical Hutman Artcars, which lacks notability and violates WP:COI and WP:NPOV. Doczilla 22:20, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. There is an appropriate category for this, Category:Art vehicles. However, it appears the one article in this category is doomed to deletion, so the category may as well go with it rather than be merged. --Vossanova o< 22:41, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Comics protagonists

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The result of the discussion was: delete. >Radiant< 12:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Comics protagonists (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete unpopulated subcategory of the previously deleted fictional protagonists category for the same reasons as the previous deletion: The term "protagonist" invokes POV. Even if it did not, this creates an unmanageable category with millions of members. Doczilla 22:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:African Lutherans

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The result of the discussion was: delete. >Radiant< 12:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:African Lutherans (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete We usually categorize people by nationality not continent, so I have moved the only article that was here to the relevant national category. Sumahoy 21:43, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Documentaries about McDonald's

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Documentary films about business. >Radiant< 12:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Documentaries about McDonald's (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete, No need to get this specific when there's not yet a Documentaries about food or Documentaries about business category --Vossanova o< 21:13, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:United States Department of Labor appointees

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The result of the discussion was: rename. >Radiant< 12:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:United States Department of Labor appointees to Category:United States Department of Labor officials

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Category:Dominican singers

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The result of the discussion was: rename. >Radiant< 12:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Dominican singers to Category:Dominican Republic singers

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Category:People by political orientation

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. >Radiant< 12:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:People by political orientation into Category:Politicians by political orientation
Xdamrtalk 04:13, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Keep the main categories separate but don't divide the subcategories as it would then be necessary to make a judgement on whether each person was a politician or not, which is fairly easy in modern democracies, but not in dictatorships and earlier eras. Pinoakcourt 13:31, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose and keep separate I've seen some shuffling about in these categories that was just wrong--people who were not in any sense politicians moved to politicians. I haven't had time to deal with it systematically, but this will just make it worse. --Lquilter 15:52, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose People who are not politicians can be notable for their political views and should be categorized. Lesnail 01:18, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • keep as is There are two distinct meanings, and someone is usually looking for one or the other and knows which.DGG 03:30, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose merge As above, not all politically influential people are politicians. The subdivision is useful. And as someone pointed out in response to Doc's concern, everyone has political opinions but only a relatively handful of articles about people discuss those political views in any meaningful way. If a piece of information is not notably mentioned in the person's article, it shouldn't be used for categorization. Dugwiki 21:15, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete both Political views are nearly impossible to categorize in a NPOV verafiable way; membership in a party, where membership is available, is verifiable; being elected or campaigning on behalf of a party or candidate is verifiable, but the POV comes in when editors try to generalize from the specific: because Ronald Reagan campaigned for union rights in the 1950s he is pro-union, explain that to the PATCO workers he fired, because he signed a liberalized abortion law in California in the 1960s he is pro-choice, too, right? Carlossuarez46 02:12, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as is to note non-politicians too where verifiable Mayumashu 15:21, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Acronym categories

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge N-letter and recursive into category:Acronyms, no consensus on computing and military. (I could have closed this as no consensus, but there seemed universal consensus to do something, so this is the less damaging course .)--Mike Selinker 16:14, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Overcategorization. Cybervideo 16:01, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, my bad, you are correct. I didn't word my recommendation correctly. I should have said Delete and upmerge. Thanks. Dugwiki 01:01, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Xdamrtalk 03:54, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, except rename military/computing acronyms to Military terms and Computing terms, or something similar. The fact that they are acronyms is not significant, but there should be a category for terms. Pcu123456789 23:17, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Theodore Roosevelt Award recipients

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The result of the discussion was: delete. >Radiant< 12:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Theodore Roosevelt Award recipients (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

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Category:Alpha Phi Omega honorary brothers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. >Radiant< 12:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Alpha Phi Omega honorary brothers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

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Category:Members of the Trilateral Commission

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The result of the discussion was: delete. >Radiant< 12:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Members of the Trilateral Commission (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

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Universities and colleges II

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The result of the discussion was: rename all.--Mike Selinker 01:56, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I’m relisting some of these, and adding some new ones, after closing this colleges and universities debate. These are the ones that either have both but in the other order, or need both because their contents are about both types of institutions. I did not grab any where college is used as a generalized adjective (e.g., Category:College football), or any where a location and only one type of school was specified (e.g., Category:Universities in Melbourne). Those can be dealt with later, if at all.--Mike Selinker 15:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC) UPDATE: Added "American university presidents".--Mike Selinker 15:31, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not that big a deal, so Rename all per nom.--Wizardman 17:00, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Fauna of Madhya Pradesh

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The result of the discussion was: delete. >Radiant< 13:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Fauna of Madhya Pradesh (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete, Category is nearly empty as is, and the fauna of Madhya Pradesh does not seem distinct enough from that of India to warrant a separate category. Lesnail 15:01, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result of the discussion was: rename. >Radiant< 13:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Category:The Goodies (TV series), to match The Goodies (TV series), and convention of Category:Categories named after television series. -- Prove It (talk) 13:54, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Missionaries by region of activity

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The result of the discussion was: merge. >Radiant< 13:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Missionaries by region of activity into Category:Christian missionaries

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Category:Glapwell F.C. players

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The result of the discussion was: delete. >Radiant< 13:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Glapwell F.C. players (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Empty category, don't think this team warrants a category. WikiGull 12:39, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Christian missionaries in the Middle East

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The result of the discussion was: merge. >Radiant< 13:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Christian missionaries in the Middle East into Category:Christian missionaries in Africa

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Category:Methodist missionaries to British North America

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The result of the discussion was: merge. >Radiant< 13:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Methodist missionaries to British North America into Category:Christian missionaries in North America

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Category:American African Methodist Episcopal bishops

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The result of the discussion was: merge. >Radiant< 13:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:American African Methodist Episcopal bishops into Category:African Methodist Episcopal bishops

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Category:Images of birds

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The result of the discussion was: reverse merge. >Radiant< 13:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Images of birds into Category:Bird images

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Category:Places impacted by urban decay

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The result of the discussion was: delete. >Radiant< 13:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Places impacted by urban decay (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

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Category:Cadet colleges in Bangladesh

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The result of the discussion was: merge. >Radiant< 13:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Cadet colleges in Bangladesh (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Redundant category with the existence of Category:Cadet Colleges in Bangladesh. Aditya Kabir 08:32, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result of the discussion was: merge. >Radiant< 13:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, perhaps it could be a little more specific. -- Prove It (talk) 02:27, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Money of Lithuania

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The result of the discussion was: rename. >Radiant< 13:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Money of Lithuania to Category:Currencies of Lithuania

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Category:Cult leaders

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The result of the discussion was: delete. >Radiant< 13:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Cult leaders (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Category is POV, and since it categorizes biographical articles is also controversial in that it could be libelous. Sfacets 01:32, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Your oft heard concern is obsolete by over a year. See my "Note 3" above. I don't know who's brilliant solution it was, but a "universally accepted definition" of cult is no longer needed for NPOV encyclopedic purposes. Milo 05:44, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The conceptual tools now exist to do a "category for organizations refered to as cults". Only the consensus is lacking. Milo 05:44, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:New Kind of Science

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The result of the discussion was: delete. >Radiant< 13:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:New Kind of Science (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete, While New Kind of Science is a notable book, I don't think every subject it discusses should be put into a category about it. Imagine if we put every page in categories for every book that talked that subject. I also worry about WP:NOT#SOAP and WP:COI since the creator (Kathryn Cramer) is apparently employed by the author of the book. Lesnail 01:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result of the discussion was: rename. >Radiant< 13:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Category:Zombina and the Skeletones albums, convention of Category:Albums by artist. -- Prove It (talk) 01:17, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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