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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 06:39, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
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Notability has not been proven, it is more of a promo. She was a finalist in some competitions, but did not win any. Under the keyword "Zuzana Králová" search engines preferentially find other people with this name. Images uploaded and article written by a single-purpose account,which indicates a personal interest. FromCzech (talk) 06:38, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Fashion, and Czech Republic. FromCzech (talk) 06:38, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 13:12, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete; doesn't meet Notability per WP:NCREATIVE. I spent the better part of the last day trying to justify a WP:TNT approach to just put the bio as a small part of an article about the business. Unless there are separate rules for fashion designers that I didn't see, though, it doesn't meet the guidelines.
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- Research notes:
- Alrighty then.
- First off, I found it absolutely hilarious that three websites ([1], [2], [3]) all copied a list page from Wikipedia. One of them didn't even bother removing the "edit" lines.
- As to notability:
- Her company website press page gives a starting point for verifying notability. Had I been able to prove it under any of the criteria, I would suggest that this page be restructured and renamed, to cover the company rather than to cover her personally, with a section of the page dedicated to her as president/owner. There's already a page that redirects to this one, so I don't think creating a new page for the company and then turning this page into a redirect would be a viable option.
- About her: I found her listed as a contributor in Prague Leaders Magazine, January 2011 where she interviewed Eva Zamrazilova (p 58-59). There's a picture of Kralova on p 52. She was quoted twice in a book titled "Becoming a Fashion Designer". The book seems to be a series of questions asked of multiple people in fashion design, so it's not about her, but about entering the profession. Published copy; draft copy.
- Her website press page had a Rock and Tonic interview, 11 Aug 2019. She talks about herself and about the Fish_Fish project covered in Arsutoria #451 (see below for link).
- I also found a blog post - not hers, someone who met her and tried on some of her designs.
- There are links on the talk page that were removed from the source listing in the article at one point; WP:NONENGLISH was cited as the reason.
- http://www.webnoviny.sk/lifestyle/zuzana-kralova-modneho-guru-nachadz/231171-clanok.html - 2010 interview
- http://diva.aktuality.sk/clanok/26922/zuzana-kralova-madrid-to-je-sloboda-v-mode/ - same interview
- http://www.informuji.cz/clanky/336-modni-navrharka-zuzana-kralova-predstavila-novou-kolekci-masculinity-in-transition/ - covers a showing of the collection "Masculinity in Transition" 24 Sept 2010. End paragraph is a brief bio of Zuzana Králová.
- http://www.designcabinet.cz/doporucujeme/kralova-zuzana - exact same as last paragraph on informuji link above with the exception of the last two sentences.
- http://www.starscom.cz/en/designeri-a-znacky/zuzana-kralova/ - is actually in English, though there is a Czech version as well. It's the blurb for the 2013 competition
- https://web.archive.org/web/20160304194422/http://www.elconfidencial.com/ultima-hora-en-vivo/2013-09-18/desfilar-y-vender-un-sueno-hecho-realidad-para-los-alumnos-de-ied-moda-lab-madrid_45423/ - only has part of one sentence mentioning her as a finalist in Prague Fashion Week 2013.
- Internet Archive was no help; the Foto DNG magazine has been removed. However, it is one of the titles on her company's about page.
- I also looked in the Mercedes-Benz Prague Fashion Week archives (https://www.mbpfw.com/en/gallery/) and didn't see her listed under "Suzana", "Zuzana" or "Kralova", or even "Pyrates", which was a Swiss-based start up she presented with at Telekom Deutsche's 2016 Fashion Fusion. (That link downloads a file to your computer, so I'm not putting it here. Google should get you there as it did me if you're really interested, but I'm not finding anything else on it, so without SIGCOV it's moot, really. Other designers in the group, for those looking for more info and maybe luckier than me: Omar Benomar, Marie Lietaro, Regina Polanco. category: Digitally Enhanced Fashion. website listed as pyrates.ch, but this is the company: https://www.pyratex.com/new-about-us)
- That said, I did find her in the 2013 program listing for 22 September.
- About the company:
- first to sign on with a company that was using Microsoft's XBox Kinect to get people's sizes via the camera's body scan. Small mention in 26 Feb 2014 CincoDias45 article.
- S4Fashion interview, undated as far as I can tell.
- Arsutoria #451 - Sustainability issue (ISSN 2531-920) - p 106, about reclaiming food waste fish skins for use as fabric.
- Fashion coverage:
- Cool Korea #41 May 2018: issuu page numbers - p 19; Cover, p 26-27; print page numbers - p 48; cover, p 81-88
- The Prince magazine No 4 January 2018: p 15
- Cool Korea #37 January 2018 - issuu page numbers - cover, p 18-19; print page numbers: cover, p 59-66
- Made Now Vol 22: Faces. November / December 2017: p 43
- Afi Vol 2, Issue 1: The Parachute. p 78-83
- This Bitch magazine Issue 1, 4th & 5th picture down after the cover. They misspelled it as "Kralove". Their WordPress is set to private.
- Fashion show at Matadero Madrid 2016; also listed on Product Fresco and Vanidad Magazine, though the latter doesn't name the designers.
- Luna De Oriente a Occidente 28 December 2017 and 5 Dec 2017 - but this appears to be a blog? That's how they're listed on Facebook, anyway, and I'm not finding much else to go on.
- Crazy Mary magazine No 2, 3 June 2014: p 121-129.
- Fashion coverage I can't verify due to paywall:
- Keyi magazine August 2019 issue.
- Scorpio Jin Vol 13 Issue C, September 2017. "Pink Supernova".
- Solstice Australia / Cool Australia magazine Spring 2018, Issue 11, p 24, 26, 28, 30
- BeauNu magazine November 2017 (same model and one image same as in "New Woman" magazine; no date given so unable to verify - name returns too many results)
- Cool Korea Beach No 38 February 2018. Her page has the cover for the regular issue 38, but the pages separately show the magazine title as "Cool Korea Beach". The regular issue is available in part on issuu, but the beach supplement is not.
- Promo New York Fashion magazine issue #50: part 1, part 2
- Elle UK September 2014
- Vogue UK November 2013
- Strobox Vol 3 October 2013
- Non-independent sources about the company:
- Loblanc interview 24 Sep 2018 (in Spanish)
- Design book/company promo material
- Not Just a Label - sales site?
- Bohemicca coleccion - press release, 7 December 2017
- promotional magazine self-published through yumpu.com (in Spanish)
- There are some images on her press coverage page that I can't find corresponding external sources for. They aren't on the same continent as me, so maybe someone in Europe or Australia would have better luck. But some of them give too many results; for example, "Tele Magazine" gets results from "Cambridge Community Television" to a Sunday show in France to the Wikipedia page on Snooky Serna. Others, like "Avenue Illustrated", I can find the website for but I can't find the specific issue referenced on her press page (Number 53, for one, in that case). Still others, like Pigeons & Peacocks, would definitely show presence (as that's a publication for the London School of Fashion), but I can't verify the coverage. The write up was done by Charlie Craggs, but I'm not having luck finding even a defunct link for it. OIM20 (talk) 02:05, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Due to the source analysis above by OIM20. MrsSnoozyTurtle 02:10, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
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