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The result was delete. Tone 17:56, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
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This article would only interest a small segment of Tolkien fans. ―Susmuffin Talk 04:43, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 05:09, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
- Keep or redirect This is the only example of a vampire within Tolkien's mythos.★Trekker (talk) 13:07, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
- Why is that important? ―Susmuffin Talk 08:43, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - Non-notable topic. TTN (talk) 22:32, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To get a clearer consensus
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance (talk) 16:59, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Relisting comment: To get a clearer consensus
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance (talk) 16:59, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Middle-earth characters, surely.—S Marshall T/C 22:13, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Middle-earth characters as this is a plausible search term and redirects are cheap per WP:CHEAP. --
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00:10, 6 November 2019 (UTC) - Delete No evidence of notability. Why redirect when there is nothing at the target?ZXCVBNM (TALK) 10:37, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- Notability isn't required for a redirect. Virtually everything to do with Tolkien's legendarium is attractive to inexperienced editors, and it's unwise to offer them a redlink that encourages them to write an article; where that road potentially leads to is more wasted volunteer time on another AfD in future and yet another bruising experience for someone new to Wikipedia. The redirect helps manage that risk. Also, Mark Viking is correct when he says that this is a plausible search term; see section C4 of WP:BEFORE.—S Marshall T/C 11:40, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Not every trivial character needs to be mentioned in the LoC, and redirecting there with no additional info makes no sense. Before (re-)creating the article, editors will be greeted with a link to this AfD, which will (hopefully) discourage them to do so. – sgeureka t•c 09:58, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.