Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TheoTown

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Once we discard the WP:ILIKEIT-type Keep from the inexperienced user, I see a clear consensus to delete. Owen× ☎ 13:23, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TheoTown

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The page was deleted multiple times for A7 and G11 reasons, so I figure having a full deletion discussion might be worth it. The only sources given are primary: the game's website, and the Steam/App Store/Google Play pages and ratings. The only sources I could find were a self-published blog explicitly including affiliate links, and this review, whose website appears to have an editorial team but for which I'm not sure how reliable it is, as only one of the members is an accredited journalist. Still, assuming this counts as a RS, a single source isn't enough for WP:GNG. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 18:22, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 18:22, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Agree with what's explained above, there isn't much in the way of product reviews for this app. I don't find much else either. Oaktree b (talk) 19:54, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: per nom
Mithilanchalputra (Talk) 11:37, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete This is much more borderline - a search on my end found two RS reviews: one from TouchArcade [1] another from 148Apps [2] and a non-RS listicle from GamingEsports [3] and brief mention in Wireframe [4]. I would consider this to be notable if one more RS or solid review could be located. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 08:39, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot! Just curious, where did you do your WP:BEFORE? I only did a cursory search (first pages of Google and Google News), but I'm curious if there are better places to look for video game-related sources. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 18:28, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mix of Google search, Internet Archive, and WP:VG/SE. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 11:07, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That last link is great to have, thanks a lot! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:33, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Little information I have found that can demonstrate notability.--Bexaendos (talk) 16:37, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the article will be deleted since there will be no information about the game, I propose to publish more information. 2800:810:544:AF:8DC6:DFBF:DB1A:7522 (talk) 17:51, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean? You can ask sources to publish more information, although it might take longer than the time this AfD runs, but we can't add more information that sources haven't published. Although the sources provided above can definitely be added in the article, and are a good first step. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 18:26, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I will suggest moving it to the draft space, allowing the JJP to improve its sourcing and content as article seems not to be ready for mainspace. Nxcrypto Message 16:13, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep.This is a decent sized game with a decent audience. I play the game a lot and the discord server had over 10,000 members. BooCooE ^(talk) 17:13, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ILIKEIT λ NegativeMP1 20:18, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep - There's a print review from Gameplay magazine: [5], when combined with TouchArcade's review: [6], that's 2 reliable reviews. And there's reviews from 148Apps and Softonic: [7]], [8], according to WP:VG/S, there are inconclusive discussions of their reliability, so until they are determined to be unreliable, I'm leaning keep on this one. --Mika1h (talk) 00:52, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for finding these sources! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 01:15, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is great work finding more sources! Caution that the Softonic review is nonattributed and its evaluative aspects are a pretty meaningless single word salad paragraph: "rich and engaging gameplay experience...challenging and rewarding experience...engaging and immersive." Comes off a bit WP:PROMO or gAI. If the Gameplay review is WP:SIGCOV this probably does enter the territory of keep, but it's WP:OFFLINE. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 07:00, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 21:39, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Not speaking positively or negatively on the source's quality or usability, but I feel that a site using affiliate links is noncontroversial, especially since they advertise very clearly that they do. Sites such as Polygon also use affiliate links. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 02:56, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The notability and reception is low and the inspiration from SimCity 2000, see fan wiki, that I am not sympathetic to keep. Dewiki has some sources that I could see a mention related to city building games. IgelRM (talk) 14:06, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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