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The result was draftify. I see a consensus that this could be potentially suitable for mainspace with better sourcing, but we're not there yet. And I think it's been worked on enough by other editors to void eligibility for WP:CSD#G5. Complex/Rational 23:58, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
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Draftify There is little doubt that Waya passes WP:BIO, but I have reached the conclusion that this article is pure cruft. I have been verifying the references, and have found far too many that fail verification. This needs to be developed in Draft space and submitted for review. It requires a radical pruning of useless references, and a substantial précis, probably to a stub level. At present it is a fluff piece, serving only to promote the subject 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:34, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Crime, Politics, and Nigeria. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:34, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- Draftify Several sources fail verification, several lines dont seem neutral. Overall it reads as promotional and could probably use some copy editing. Questions? four OLIfanofmrtennant (she/her) 04:33, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, I have taken out time to take out the trash that were identified. Also, I have tried to add one reference per fact as suggested by @Timtrent. I removed a couple of primary sources that are hard to verify, merged two sections into one and took out fluffy statements too. This is an effort towards its improvement as suggested. I also took your advice on doing some copy editing. We all can take a second look at the article and decide if my efforts saves it. My intention is to learn and get it right. I initially gave up it's improvement but as advised by @Timtrent, I worked on it again. Feedbacks are welcome. Thank you Peaxman (talk) 08:41, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- Comment I believe we should interpret this as the creating editor's !vote to keep in mainspace 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 09:20, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- Draftify: Per nominator. I had previously draftified this before. Not suitable for mainspace in its present state. Best, Reading Beans (talk) 00:33, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: It is fair to say that this has been much edited since the nomination. I will leave the community to judge whether this is sufficient and whether the references are now appropriate 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 09:18, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- I would interpret this as "Big Progress" for which You have been helpful. Thanks Peaxman (talk) 10:58, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- Draftify: Article is pretty organized, but it isn't sourced enough to satisfy mainspace. Checking the article history, it seems that it has been draftified at least once before. HarukaAmaranth 春香 01:05, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
- Draftify and require the page pass an WP:AFC review before moving to main space again.4meter4 (talk) 15:43, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: The article creator, Peaxman has been found to be a sockpuppet. Perhaps the article is eligible for G5 speedy deletion. I have not nominated it because of the ongoing deletion debate. ☆ Bri (talk) 18:19, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Bri I think it likely that sufficient other editors have edited it post creation to make G5 fail. But likely is not certain. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 19:55, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- I agree, which is part of the reason I wrote "perhaps". ☆ Bri (talk) 20:37, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Bri I think it likely that sufficient other editors have edited it post creation to make G5 fail. But likely is not certain. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 19:55, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- Draftify and must pass through AFC. Dfertileplain (talk) 19:12, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
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