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The result was delete. No establishment of notability.Esprit15d • talk • contribs 15:21, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Prod was removed; see explanation on talk page. Subject is the fictional location of a gay porn site, "Gay War Games," which in itself already doesn't appear to be notable. There are no references given, and I could find nothing in Google News or Google Books. The only hits I found using Google Web are from blogs. There is no significant discussion in reliable sources; hence, the criteria for notability are not met. Drmies (talk) 14:35, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete No evidence of notability or independent sources. Appears to be entirely for promotional purposes. katherine_a (talk) 14:40, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Tchukistan is a unique and distinct fictional country. This gay production has been discussed in many gay publications, networks and blogs and gay communities alike. I can't follow the argument of people who did a 3 minute research on Google only to declare this topic is not notable. Also I do not follow why the name "Gay War Games" which is almost like a brand name, is not notable. This is a gay entertainment related topic and should be viewed as such. No other book or movie has used Tchukistan and the Wikipedia Page should help who came up and used this fictional country first. --Gayfun —Preceding undated comment added 14:57, 2 August 2010 (UTC).[reply]
- The point is precisely that Wikipedia does not do "firsts" in any kind of way. It is an encyclopedia, and the verification for article content must come from reliable secondary and tertiary sources. If you can produce those for the article, it can stay. You claim it has been discussed in gay publications: prove it. That's the essence of two of our core policies, Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:Verifiability. Drmies (talk) 15:23, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:15, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Delete. Not worthy of inclusion. Neverland it ain't... Carrite (talk) 16:07, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, and note that user duplicated this page which I nominated for speedy: Gay war games. I don't believe that this user is editing in good faith. — Timneu22 · talk 18:03, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
KeepI did create that "Gay War Games" page, because I thought Tchuckustan is not noteable. However the Gay production itself is unique and a noteable Gay culture, namely BDSM/Military fetish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gayfun (talk • contribs) 23:21, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]- You have already registered your opinion to keep. Only one per customer. I've struck through your second one. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:57, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. No reliable sources that establish notability. De728631 (talk) 18:04, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy delete This shouldn't have even made it to AFD. Dr. Blofeld - 15:36, 18 July 2010 (UTC) 18:38, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Ernst, I was being nice, for a change. Drmies (talk) 20:11, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy delete. Appears to be veiled spam for a gay porn studio in Berlin. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 04:58, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Not notable. Appears more promotional than anything else. Taroaldo (talk) 05:20, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.