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The result was Delete. (aeropagitica) (talk) 05:28, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
fails WP:CORP; non-notable software; the name "SmartWare" applies to a lot of companies and products including cookware, so Google counts are misleading; Alexa has no rating for the corporate website and counts only 16 other sites that link to it. If one removes the article's cruft, there's nothing in it to indicate notability - not that any of it is sourced... Rklawton 00:01, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Per nom, a lot of companies using this name. This company seems miniscule, with very little info available. Not much even to their website. Fan-1967 01:46, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- ImproveMaybe I misunderstood, but Wikipedia is, among others, an on-line encyclopedia? Does the size of a company matter for deciding if a fact is mentioned in an encyclopedia? Under Informix mention is made of SmartWare, which has been a product of theirs, but no explanation has been provided as to what it is. So I thought lets provide one so people can learn about that fact. I can't help others mis-use the name. Han van Heerde 06:39, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- What matters are WP:CORP and WP:SOFTWARE, which both embody the same primary notability criterion, and our Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:No original research, and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view policies. You've been asked, in the article, to cite sources. So please do so. Please cite multiple, non-trivial, published works, from sources independent of the creators/authors of the software, that are about the software, to demonstrate both that the PNC is satisfied and that this article is verifiable and not original research. Uncle G 10:22, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Almost the complete text is taken from a few articles as published in an electronic magazine (e-zine) called Echo On. I have permission to use it for publication on Wikipedia in order to explain what SmartWare is. What do I need to do in order to satisfy the needs in order to prevent deletion? Han van Heerde 13:02, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The text as displayed now also mentions a book called Tips, tricks and traps. It is a whole book covering SmartWare. Does that satisfy the "Software is notable if it meets any one of the following criteria The software package has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the company itself. This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, user guides, television documentaries, and full-length magazine reviews."? Han van Heerde 13:02, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- What matters are WP:CORP and WP:SOFTWARE, which both embody the same primary notability criterion, and our Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:No original research, and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view policies. You've been asked, in the article, to cite sources. So please do so. Please cite multiple, non-trivial, published works, from sources independent of the creators/authors of the software, that are about the software, to demonstrate both that the PNC is satisfied and that this article is verifiable and not original research. Uncle G 10:22, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- ImproveMaybe I misunderstood, but Wikipedia is, among others, an on-line encyclopedia? Does the size of a company matter for deciding if a fact is mentioned in an encyclopedia? Under Informix mention is made of SmartWare, which has been a product of theirs, but no explanation has been provided as to what it is. So I thought lets provide one so people can learn about that fact. I can't help others mis-use the name. Han van Heerde 06:39, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom and Fan-1967. Paddles TC 02:35, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom and because this is a spamvertisement. --Karnesky 03:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- ImproveI presume spamvertisement is something like combining spam and an advertisement. Please let me know what text gives this impression, so I can adapt it (I'm Dutch and completely new to Wikipedia). Thanks in advance. Han van Heerde 06:39, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. --Casper2k3 20:36, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.