Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Simone Tomassini

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 21:30, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Simone Tomassini

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Notability is not sufficiently established. Ghits don't appear to turn up any reliable sources to support notability. -- Mufka ^(u) ^(t) ^(c) 20:50, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:13, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
~~Provisional~~ Keep – There are quite a lot of sources available in well-known Italian publications and I've added them to the article. Note that he also performs as simply "Simone". The article is a mess, that's for sure. It's seems to have been written by a fan and largely cribbed from his website. I'm in the process of cleaning it up and removing the hype. Voceditenore (talk) 07:03, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Update Article re-written and referenced to multiple sources. Voceditenore (talk) 17:21, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Voceditenore's excellent additions to the article's sources and content which now clearly establish the article's notability.4meter4 (talk) 07:57, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Much better. I deleted an earlier version of the article in Dec for copyright violations. This looks much better and appears to have lots of sources now. Pigman☿/talk 21:16, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I am Simone, and I created the old page. How can I prove that I have te right to use that text? This new page contains some information that is not true (Simone NEVER released an album called Ladra), and it's missing a lot more information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.86.160.119 (talk) 22:19, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Simone, to add copyright text or images to an article you need to follow the procedures at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials (or the message on it:Discussioni utente:SimoneTomassini), and you need to follow them exactly, or they will be deleted. But please note that material from websites and fansites is invariably unencyclopedic and promotional in tone (as the original version of the article was) and will be heavily edited to conform to Wikipedia's standards. Note that you had the same problems with the Italian version. See it:Discussione:Simone (cantante). It also has to be referenced to reliable published sources that are independent of the article's subject. You cannot use the article as an alternative website for yourself, or include information which cannot be verified externally. Please read Wikipedia:Autobiography (or in Italian: it:Wikipedia:Autobiografie) and also read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest (or in Italian: it:Wikipedia:Pagine promozionali o celebrative). As for the "non-existent" album please see this. However, as the album has not been written about in the press, it is OK to leave it out. I am now going to copy-edit your latest addition to make it conform to Wikipedia policy and standards, please do not change it. Also, if you have any connection to User:Simonetarantino, note that the two photos added to the article contravene Wikipedia's policy on "fair use" images and have deletion notices. Voceditenore (talk) 05:58, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Further comment Note that the article was created by User:Simonetta70, as was the deleted version (see User talk:Simonetta70), and heavily edited by 69.86.160.119 who claims to be the article's subject as well as the article's creator (including the deleted version). If you have a user name, I strongly suggest that you log in and edit under that name only to avoid confusion. Voceditenore (talk) 07:34, 23 April 2010 (UTC) (comment edited by Voceditenore (talk) 07:43, 23 April 2010 (UTC))[reply]

After reading the message left by 69.86.160.119 at User talk:Pigman#Simone Tomassini I am a little concerned with what's going on here with the user names and identity claims. Here and at the User talk page, 69.86.160.119 claims to be Simone Tomassini and the creator of the current and deleted articles on him. Yet, as noted above, both were created by User:Simonetta70. Note also that both here and at the user page, the IP refers to "Simone" in the third person and at the User talk page says "we were actually about to add some new interesting things". Is this person not actually Simone Tomassini, but his publicist or a member of his fan club acting on his behalf? If so, they should not be claiming to be the man himself. Nor should more than one person be editing under the same account. Voceditenore (talk) 09:15, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, the user 69.86.160.119 and Simonetarantino are the same user. I never claimed to be the singer, just we have the same name (quite common). All Voceditenore comments are rights; about the pictures, I got it directly from the artist with express consent to use it for this article. As for the non existent album, the artist never released it, neather approve it when the label Azzurra Music publish it. Please Voceditenore, since you are an expert and it seem you are also very correct and fair, I would love your help on this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Simonetarantino (talk • contribs) 13:02, 23 April 2010

Thanks for clearing up that you are not Simone Tomassini. But if you say you created the article, you must also be User:Simonetta70. You need to read this page for guidance on editing from multiple accounts. Re the photographs, they will be deleted unless you document the permission properly. Please read the proper procedure at Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. Simply saying you have permission is not enough, and Wikipedia does not allow fair use of images of living people under any circumstances with or without permission. The copyright holder needs to release them under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 license. Obviously another photographer took the live performance photo not Tomassini. Tomassini doesn't have the right to give away the photographer's work without his permission. The CD cover, if uploaded as "fair use" can only be used in an article specifically about that CD, not to illustrate the article about the singer. I think you need to get help with this from Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 13:49, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Voceditenore, no problem, and thanks for all your suggestions. No, I am not Simonetta70. I created another article about the singer that was deleted. I am just modifying and correcting this one, adding content. I will have all the pictures with the right license. Feel free to help more, your contrubition is really appreciated. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.86.160.119 (talk) 14:23, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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