Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seven Spears of Imizu

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The result was delete all. Rlendog (talk) 20:56, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Seven Spears of Imizu

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See the comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:BradTraylor/Battle of Imizu. Michitaro (talk · contribs) did the work and concluded that:

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None of them had an entry or mention of the above figures or of the Battle of Imizu and related seven spears. (These three all had index volumes that could give location of names of people mentioned in other entries.) Some did have articles on the Jinbo clan, but none mentioned the above Jinbos. I also looked at the Sengoku jinmei jiten (Yoshikawa Kobunkan, 2006), and some other jinmei jiten, but found nothing. Finally, I checked the Toyama kenshi (Toyama-ken, 1976-1984), which has a lot more on the Jinbo clan, and again found nothing on these figures. I think the only conclusion, even if we in AGF assume these are not hoaxes, is that these figures are so obscure they clearly violate WP:GNG

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In short, I think these articles are all either non-notable or hoaxes. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 19:58, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all as probable hoax. I recognize that not every book is on the internet, but it still seems to me that for a battle that happened in the sixteenth century there should be at least one mention somewhere of any of these elements. Particularly suspicious since the cited Japanese-language sources don't appear to exist. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:12, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:29, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:30, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete all per the checking at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:BradTraylor/Battle of Imizu. These appear to be hoaxes. Nick-D (talk) 01:40, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all if not a hoax then not notable enough for individual articles. Samuraiantiqueworld (talk) 02:05, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all. While one always fears that there are some sources that one just missed, the dictionaries and encyclopedias I checked are all pretty standard for Japanese history and, spanning multiple volumes (one is 21 volumes!), cover much of what is considered important in that history. Maybe there is some specialized history out there somewhere that talks about these figures, but clearly they are not notable enough to be included in major reference works. Even the local history did not have them. Ultimately it is the responsibility of the authors of these articles to initially justify their notability. That has not been done. They should be deleted. If these or other editors can find RS later on, then the articles could be revived. Michitaro (talk) 02:15, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all per hoax as the parent article was deleted as a hoax. Oda Mari (talk) 09:29, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.