Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sayeye Penhan

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. No valid argument to keep, even if we ignore the obvious sockery/canvassing. Owen× ☎ 19:57, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sayeye Penhan

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Fails WP:NFILM in short. No critical reception whatsoever. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 07:04, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film, Television, Entertainment, and Iran. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 07:04, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"This article is about an Iranian film that was recorded in Iran according to the sources available in the article. If the article is lacking in content, it is likely that the user who created it did not have sufficient information and was unable to provide further edits. As you may have noticed, a 'stub' template has been added at the end of the article, indicating that editors are encouraged to help expand the article by adding more information. According to this procedure, the article needs more time to be completed. However, you have placed a deletion template on this article, which goes against the rules of English Wikipedia." 5.233.174.226 (talk) 16:17, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if you have no decent sourcing to start with, adding a stub template doesn't really help. Oaktree b (talk) 16:35, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: No mentions in RS other than what's given; not seeing notability for this short film. I don't find any sourcing either. Oaktree b (talk) 16:35, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A statement is made that is not logical. You say there are no sources, so what are the sources listed in the references section for? This has been officially announced as a certain type of film and has been screened as a cinematic movie in Iran and registered on IMDb. You shouldn't compare this article, which pertains to Iran, with an article related to the United States, because it was created by an editor who has limited knowledge about Iranian cinema, and this will be corrected over time with the help of other editors. Unfortunately, you made a hasty decision to delete this article, which is not logical and violates Wikipedia's rules. This article is still new and was created just a month ago, and a stub template has been added to allow editors to contribute, with credible sources also cited. 5.233.174.226 (talk) 17:36, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This article, with its completed information, should remain on English Wikipedia and not be deleted, so that it can be improved and matured by editors.

Thank you. 5.233.230.102 (talk) 18:12, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We need to know that a topic is notable enough to merit an article first, instead of creating an article and waiting to see if editors find enough sources. However, the other option is always to set up a draft, which can be improved and moved back into the main article space once it's ready. hinnk (talk) 07:36, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
to stay: This article is about an Iranian film and is still in the early stages. It should be allowed to be edited. If the article has any issues, please help by editing and improving it rather than deleting the article altogether. With suggested edits from editors, this article can be strengthened, but deleting it would not be productive. This article should remain; otherwise, we would be violating Wikipedia's guidelines. Thank you.HistoryBuff98 (talk) 15:16, 27 August 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoryBuff98 (talk • contribs) [reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 17:42, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~to stay~~: The article has been updated with new sources that establish its notability and confirm the significance of the film according to Wikipedia's guidelines. The references are now comprehensive. This article should remain on English Wikipedia so that we, the editors, can continue to expand and improve it.HistoryBuff98 (talk) 15:15, 27 August 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoryBuff98 (talk • contribs) 12:16, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
to stay: According to the sources, this article should stay in Wikipedia. This movie is about an Iranian movie that received high feedback and has many fans that people and viewers read about it on Wikipedia. This article has reliable sources that many news sites say about it. And because this is an Iranian article, it has been neglected, which needs time to reach maturity and become big and wide. In my opinion, this article should stay in English Wikipedia. Thanks to the administrators of English Wikipedia.5.233.224.246 (talk) 09:36, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. A search in English or Arabic (سایه‌ی پنهان) yields nothing reliable. Is akhbarrasmi.com a reliable source? @Vanderwaalforces: @Oaktree b: DareshMohan (talk) 07:03, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DareshMohan That source does not appear reliable, it does seem very much like a service that aggregates news from sources, as opposed to producing news itself. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:43, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.