Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roman Catholic Diocese of Highveld

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The subject turns out to be unverifiable, and may be a hoax. Sandstein 12:18, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Roman Catholic Diocese of Highveld

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No sources and no ghits for either the diocese or Simonpierre Nnolumfu, the current incumbent. This is not a conventional diocese within the Catholic hierarchy but an "Autocephalous Catholic jurisdiction" (quoting from article). The creating editor has been repeatedly advised to add references to their articles, but has not done so. There appears to be a strong sense of "Ownership", as in the talk page message in response to a CSD nomination. PamD 07:51, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Further to nomination, the key point I didn't make: Does not appear to be Notable. PamD 07:53, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment on sources (the WP:BEFORE): there is a Facebook page St. Mary's Abbey Catholic Diocese of Highveld, but the web address it offers is http://www.catholicdioceseofhighveld.org/ which is a dead link. And the bishop has a Linked-in page. But no reliable sources findable by me. PamD 08:02, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And this is interesting, and the bishop has a page in Who's Who of Southern Africa - which describes itself "an online platform that assists professionals in creating, managing and growing their personal brand and reputation" PamD 08:08, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Given the history of this page/topic, it seems no-one has been able to find any independent reference to it, so deletion is obviously appropriate. Imaginatorium (talk) 08:53, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of South Africa-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 12:18, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, So Why 08:47, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as a probable hoax. This is an interesting one. The Roman Catholic Church (as far as I know) does not provide any public listing of dioceses or sees. A frequently-used reference for Wikipedia's articles about dioceses (for example, List of Catholic dioceses in Great Britain) is the website GCatholic.org, which is (apparently) a comprehensive and frequently updated list of Catholic Church bodies and institutions. GCatholic does not include Highveld in its list of South African dioceses, nor does it list Highveld as a titular see.

I am interested in this topic but not an expert, and I'm not saying that GCatholic would hold the same weight as an official Church record, if one could be found. But combine this with the lack of sources uncovered elsewhere and I would argue that this article fails the most elementary tests of WP:Verifiability. A Train^talk 10:14, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.