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The result was delete. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 07:06, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
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Non notable musician, spam sources TheChronium 09:08, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete - Fails WP:BAND and WP:GNG. The dubious sources do not help to establish notability. Possible COI/UPE. Netherzone (talk) 12:48, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- Its search results all from google news which are reliable sources — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:7D0B:9F00:92:9933:A1B1:6B5A (talk • contribs) — 2001:569:7D0B:9F00:92:9933:A1B1:6B5A (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
Keep - found more reliable sources for this artist's notability https://www.toxicmetalzine.com/post/global-metal-sensation-rockin-rose-releases-flayed-alive https://music.163.com/#/topic?id=53229599 https://www.curtaincallrecords.com/curtain-call-artists https://new.qq.com/omn/20210916/20210916A071BN00?refer.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.218.161.164 (talk • contribs) — 172.218.161.164 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.- Keep - passed WP:Musician sources are verifiable — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.180.117.198 (talk • contribs) — 173.180.117.198 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
Strong Keep - This article should be kept.It certainly meets WP:BAND and WP:GNG requirements. Net ease music source is reliable. This artist’s notability is verifiable. (talk)— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.244.23.159 (talk • contribs)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Netherzone (talk) 02:40, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - undisclosed paid-for spam; I've blocked the author for creating this page. MER-C 14:01, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Several of the !votes above are from single purpose editors WP:SPA who might be socks. Netherzone (talk) 14:05, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- MER-C I think we may have a problem here. I'm wondering if you or another admin could please have a look into these single-purposed IPs, all of whom vote keep, forget to sign, have contributed no or few other edits, and geolocate to the same place. Netherzone (talk) 20:59, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Agreed. The geolocate for all of the unsigned users shows them in the Greater Vancouver area. ExRat (talk) 21:16, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
Keep - Can anyone tell if Spotify can be paid to edit and false cp line written credit content as a major label? The answer is absolutely NO. Cause only the artist who really signed to the records label can be approved to appear on Spotify with above label information. Also, either this article’s source or digital stream platforms or social media all proved this artist is notable. Can you say you can pay and buy a news for signed to any major records label? No,cause no records label will allow someone pretends to be their signed artist. And also, I checked that toxic metal news,that website definitely not spam or paid source,no way to pay them for promotion;that net ease music was a major China music news websites too .nothing can be paid for editing. According to wiki musician notability requirements: have 2 or more albums distributed by a major label such as warner;Sony:universal and its sub labels. Then this article is qualified for the WP:BAND — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:7d0b:9f00:6989:b8e8:241f:6dbb (talk) 18 September 2021 (UTC)Keep Notability is verifiable. Spotify source credit appears as ‘believe music’ also checked one of the article reference, seen this artist is in the Curtain Call Records current artist distribute through Sony,The Orchard. User:24.244.23.204 (talk) 01:13, 18 September 2021 (UTC)- Delete: Blatant attempt at spam by UPEs, fails WP:NBAND, WP:BIO. JavaHurricane 05:05, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails nearly all criteria of WP:NBAND but maybe one and the WP:SPA are highly suspicious. ExRat (talk) 20:02, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
Keep notable artist. She meets WP:MUSICBIO (Point 5) and sources like [1], [2], and MenaFN articles certainly prove her notability.2407:7000:9D08:BE00:11D4:E07F:4206:26E4 (talk) 06:03, 20 September 2021 (UTC)Keep article could be written better but she passes notability per WP:MUSICBIO.Gravehoot (talk) 08:02, 20 September 2021 (UTC)- Comment. Just joined today, huh? ExRat (talk) 08:15, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - The "keep" votes above are absolutely not to be trusted. Several of them have done nothing else in WP except vote here. As for Rockin Rose, kudos for hiring an agent who knows how to get press releases reprinted on official-looking websites, which is obvious when they use terms like "global metal sensation" for someone who just got started, or harp about how her online concert was "sold out" without saying how many tickets were available. She even rented a sweet car for a photo shoot and said that she owns it. I'll wrap it up charitably with WP:TOOSOON. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:32, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete—those who would hire people to !vote here in contravention of our policies shouldn't be rewarded for behaving as such. There's no policy justification for keeping this article, and I think that an appropriate response given the attempt to rig the process is WP:SNOW. Would Dudhhr consider closing the AfD as delete on top of the already welcome striking of the falsified votes? Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) please always ping! 22:10, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Psiĥedelisto: I cannot close XfDs as delete as I am not an administrator, per WP:BADNAC. dudhhrContribs 22:13, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Dudhhr: Apologies. You responded over on AN/I, and Netherzone implied you are one — I did not check, which I should have. I'd welcome any admin who comes across this to close this debate as delete per WP:SNOW. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) please always ping! 22:17, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you Psiĥedelisto and Dudhhr, I'm under the impression that the closer should be someone uninvolved (preferably an admin) who has not !voted nor contributed to the article. Netherzone (talk) 00:35, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Dudhhr: Apologies. You responded over on AN/I, and Netherzone implied you are one — I did not check, which I should have. I'd welcome any admin who comes across this to close this debate as delete per WP:SNOW. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) please always ping! 22:17, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
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