Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pokémon GO Battle League

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. czar 22:43, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pokémon GO Battle League

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Preface: my recommendation is that the outcome be "merge to Pokemon GO," not "delete". The topic is quite WP:FANCRUFTy, and while there are a number of sources, they're largely fan sites and game news. I think the topic merits a section under the main article, but a season-by-season breakdown and the details of each battle league is excessive. GeneralNotability (talk) 23:10, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. GeneralNotability (talk) 23:10, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. GeneralNotability (talk) 23:10, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merge. It's a game feature, the topic does not seem to have, errr, general notability :P sufficient for a stand-alone article. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:08, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- You mean other than the sources, which is Wikipedia's definition of notability?. Hobit (talk) 12:31, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and trim. The feature is one of the most important for the game's playerbase, but its significance may not be obvious for people not in the game. The page contains details that easily fail the 10-year rule, thus warrants trimming. --Luminoxius (talk) 06:44, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Alternatively, Move to a new article "Trainer Battle" (currently a section in Pokémon Go where the Go Battle League article is linked) and expand. Trainer Battle is what has real-world impact, with international e-sport events and local community events regularly held. Go Battle League, a virtual part of Trainer Battle, so far barely spills out of the game itself. --Luminoxius (talk) 21:28, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That wouldn't be a bad idea. This will stand out as an alternative idea. --WellThisIs TheReaper

Strong Keep Folks, our standard for inclusion is WP:N. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5] are all fine sources focused purely on the topic. There are at least 3 good sources published in the last week. There is no problem with sourcing. And reports of how a season of a competition turned out that is covered by reliable sources is not "Gamecruft" anymore than it would be for a sporting event. If you want to discuss a merge for editorial reasons, use the talk page of the relevant articles, not AfD. And saying that "game news" can't be used to source game article is like arguing "sports news" can't be used to source sports articles. Hobit (talk) 12:31, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hobit, to clarify - when I said "game news" I meant news from the game developer - pokemongolive and other Niantic-affiliated sources. GeneralNotability (talk) 16:19, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

None of the sources listed by Hobit is news "from the game developer" though. Some of the sources on the current article are, but can be readily replaced by independent sources. --Luminoxius (talk) 21:21, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think GN was clarifying their nomination statement, not addressing the sources I supplied. Hobit (talk) 22:29, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep I believe that the page includes many reliable sources, and according to WP:N, WP:RS and WP:GNG sources should be significantly relatable to the topic. With good sources, I'd say that this would make a good article. WellThisIsTheReaper (talk) 16:11, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, I could start and move this page to a new page called "Trainer Battles", as suggested by Luminoxius earlier. --WellThisIs TheReaper 17:18, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 23:08, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Has mny reliable sources and wide coverage too passes GNG. Jaysonsands (talk) 15:49, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep I do think that this should be an article but in the current shape that it is in, it's not really something that would be good as an Wikipedia Article. So basically what I am saying I am to WP:TNT and start that all over again. HawkAussie (talk) 07:40, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Well sourced. Desertarun (talk) 14:50, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.