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The result was delete. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:29, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
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This article is badly written pseudohistory, based on the attempts by some caste organizations (e.g. [1][2]) to revise history for glorification of their community (a sort of Sanskritization). No reliable historian links the Pala and Pallava dynasties to the "Pal" shepherds. Things like Holkar/Vijayanagar empire connection are also complete nonsense.
Note: The article has 17 references, but all of these fake. Not a single reference mentions the term "Pal Kshatriya". Only one reference (The World of Nomads) mentions both the words "Pal" and "Kshatriya", and that too, separately. This book says that the nomadic shepherds are known by different names in India: in Uttar Pradesh, they call themselves Pal and claim Kshatriya descent (not to be confused with Pal (surname) and Pal clan). utcursch | talk 07:04, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. utcursch | talk 07:09, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. utcursch | talk 07:09, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
- Delete I spot checked a few of the cited references, and the article so mixes and matches sources (and, outright misrepresents them) that it is closer to pseudohistories than a simple case of a false but self-consistent pseudohistory. In addition to the problems Utcursch mentions, most of the article content is copyright-violation having been cut-n-pasted from non-RS websites such as [3] and [4]) (In fact, if you search the page, you can even find the "Copyright© Christopher Buyers" tag that has conveniently been copied too.) The copyvio issue traces back to the earliest version of the page as created by User:Lakhmi in 2009. There may well be an article to be written about "Pal" ethnic group, but this is not it at all. Abecedare (talk) 02:16, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Delete After going through the article one can easily find out that how the historical events are misused to confuse the readers. --Mahensingha 18:12, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
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