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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 00:42, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
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I wanted to improve the article and looked for more sources, but the series doesn't seem to have enough coverage. It won a Shogakukan Manga Award and had a sequel in 2011, [1] but I don't think that is enough to warrant notability. --Xexerss (talk) 20:26, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Anime and manga and Japan. Xexerss (talk) 20:26, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Ganesha811 (talk) 20:28, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
Keep While this article is only a stub on this Wikipedia, there is a very large article about it on the Japanese Wikipedia. That fact, along with the manga winning one of Japan's major manga awards, suggests to me it meets notability requirements. Note that the award alone proves notability, per our guidelines. That said, it'd be great to bring over content from the Japanese Wikipedia article and to provide citations.--SouthernNights (talk) 17:34, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- The issue is that the article on the Japanese Wikipedia lacks secondary or tertiary sources. At most it has some notes referencing the own manga. Xexerss (talk) 20:02, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- But as I mentioned, per Wikipedia guidelines a work receiving a major award, which the Shogakukan Manga Award definitely counts as, is all the proof we need that said work is notable. That notability exists no matter the lack of citations. Yes, the citation issues still needs to be addressed but that isn't a reason to delete an article on a notable topic.--SouthernNights (talk) 20:16, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- I understand. Thanks for the clarification. Still, I emphasize again that is was very hard to find coverage on the web, but I will try again to find something if it's decided to keep the article. Xexerss (talk) 20:24, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- But as I mentioned, per Wikipedia guidelines a work receiving a major award, which the Shogakukan Manga Award definitely counts as, is all the proof we need that said work is notable. That notability exists no matter the lack of citations. Yes, the citation issues still needs to be addressed but that isn't a reason to delete an article on a notable topic.--SouthernNights (talk) 20:16, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:29, 23 September 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:33, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
Keep as per assertion that it won a major award. Perhaps some information could be translated from the JP article? Blue Edits (talk) 11:47, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - The Shogakukan Manga Award meets WP:BKCRIT #2. I tried finding sources via Google in Japanese but it's almost all shops selling the manga or databases listing it with no elaboration. On Google Books I found it in a bunch of anthologies and "national author" listings and such, but again nothing that would help. I did find [https://www.seiryo-u.ac.jp/u/new/2022/column/1001.html this which is a post from Kanazawa Seiryo University's president I guess reminiscing about among other things reading it when he was younger; it's just weird because it was written and came out today and if I had looked yesterday I wouldn't have found it. But I bring it up because it mentions that this manga was published in Weekly Shōnen Magazine (週刊少年マガジン) in the 1970s, which this article doesn't mention and might be a plausible route to find references with. - Aoidh (talk) 16:17, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
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