Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maarten van der Duin

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The result was no consensus‎. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:53, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Maarten van der Duin

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Tagged since May with notability, primary sources and lack of citations, this problematic biographical article's subject fails WP:GNG, confirmed by a WP:BEFORE. No evident notability as screenwriter, stage director or creative consultant, the three roles ascribed to him in the article. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:29, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Film, and Netherlands. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:29, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Meets WP:ANYBIO "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times"... he has been nominated for several awards that are notable awards based on the awards also having Wikipedia pages.Naomijeans (talk) 21:15, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Were these really awards he received or awards media units he contributed to received? gidonb (talk) 14:24, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 12:16, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete until and unless better sourcing can be found. None of his awards appear to be "well-known and significant" which is a higher level than notability. The current sourcing is insufficient to support any article much less a WP:BLP. Eluchil404 (talk) 07:04, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I found some passing mentions in books and surprisingly little in the press. He contributed to media units that were nominated and/or awarded prizes. That is nice yet unless the director, just maybe the producer, does not count toward notability. It mostly counts toward the unit's notability. If the award is more specific to the domain of that person (e.g. for the screenplay or special effects) we should again consider it. Also the GNG would still need to be met. gidonb (talk) 02:26, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Seems to meet the following criterion (3) for Creative professionals: "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, or of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series)". -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 04:12, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To your opinion, does he also pass the WP:GNG? gidonb (talk) 22:34, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know but he seems to be notable as screenwriter. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 05:08, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 19:15, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. After reviewing the subject's contributions to notable works, focusing on Het verhaal van Nederland, 14 - Diaries of the Great War and Small Hands in a Big War with some quick glances at others, I concur with Mushy Yank's analysis of WP:CREATIVE.C3. The subjects contributions are major and the works are significant. —siro χ o 23:35, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.