Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MOZGALEVSKY Nikolai Osipovich

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The result was nomination withdrawn. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:58, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

MOZGALEVSKY Nikolai Osipovich

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Cannot possibly be attributed to reliable sources and unsuitable for an encyclopaedia. Put diplomatically, after reading this article I have literally no idea what/who/when it is about. I have tried nominating for CSD but was unable to find a criteria for an article of this type. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 22:09, 12 August 2011 (UTC) [reply]

Update It seems this article was a Google-translated copy of an article from the Russian Wikipedia which was deleted for being a copyright violation (see http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Мозгалевский_Николай_Осипович). The violating text has been removed entirely. The article is apparently about an individual involved with the Decembrist revolt. I have been unable to find any English-language information relating to the subject thus I submit failure to conform to WP:BIO. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 11:29, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I had no problems finding on-line sources. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 11:44, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- P.S. – See Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL -- Petri Krohn (talk) 11:46, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unlike my sister, I'm unfortunately unable to read/speak Russian. Who is he and why is he notable? ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 12:29, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes we can! -- Petri Krohn (talk) 13:36, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 23:24, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 23:24, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 23:25, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural Keep - there are obviously sources about him, clearly a officer in the Russian Imperial Army, so we can't delete on lack of sources. Question is, is he notable as a Decembrist ? Buckshot06 (talk) 01:57, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
He seems to be notable as the ancestor of a lot of (upper class) people in the Yenisei area. The issue then boils down to the general notability of Decembrist. It is likely that Soviet historians considered all Decembrists as notable and wrote extensive biographies on them.

We had a similar discussion in the Finnish Wikipedia on the notability of individual members of the Jäger Movement. Finnish militarist had assembled multiple Matrikels on them. As reliable sources were available, we could not draw a line. By default every foot soldier became "notable". -- Petri Krohn (talk) 06:53, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment As nominator, I'm willing to accept Petri Krohn's judgement in this matter given his experience as an editor and contributor to similar historical articles. The article is now very different from the incomprehensible, Google-translated essay I felt should be deleted. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 13:21, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Petri Krohn. Actualy I think all Decembrists (I mean noblemen) are notable, there were not that many of them Alex Bakharev (talk) 02:14, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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