Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Logos Lab School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. GlassCobra 08:43, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Logos Lab School

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Delete-A non-notable middle school program for "gifted and talented" students. There are no sources and none could be found except at the school website. The school has no article to redirect to. Does not meet WP:N or the purposed guideline at Wikipedia:Notability (schools) Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 19:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep- I disagree, I think it's moderately notable and important, atleast to Richmond Community Schools, and others that want to know about Logos. Plus, what do you expect from a Middle School program? Apparently it exists...I don't think that it has to have 10 references about it, but I will look to find atleast one more reliable source of information. Thanks-Letter 7/Caleb (talk) 20:19, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.- The Richmond Community Schools site for some reason has deleted the Logos Lab School page, there used to be a summary and dedicated page to it, and I will work to put it back on as a source of information.

Keep- I agree with User:Letter 7. The article has been improved now.--NAHID 20:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

comment How do you think it meets the notability guidelines? Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 21:03, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reply- WP:N#NCONTENT —Preceding unsigned comment added by Letter 7 (talk • contribs) 23:31, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We are not talking about the notability of the contents but of the article itself. What you referred to explains that not all the content of the article needs to be notable but the article subject itself does. Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 23:58, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Letter 7 has been known to vandalise! So i have to point out that fact he/she might not have the best interests of wikipedia at heart. TheProf | Talk 13:53, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - it may be of local interest, but I can find no coverage of the school. Not even in local papers. No reliable soources. -- Whpq (talk) 13:20, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. TheProf | Talk 13:50, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment- I think that you're claim that I'm a "known vandalist" is biast and promotes bad wikietteness...just because I used to vandalise doesn't mean I am a vandal now...so please grow up and learn the Wikipedia:Vandalism policy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Letter 7 (talk • contribs)

What would you call this edit from earlier today? Or does "now" mean in the past 2 1/2 hours? --Onorem ♠Dil 15:05, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

okay, #1-- I don't speak french....#2 I made a mistake, there was a sandbox on the Mark David Chapman that I accidentally hit save page...if you don't believe me then check the page I was on before I accidentally made the edit...Thanks-Letter 7/Caleb (talk) 15:23, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I don't see which sandbox page you were talking about, but your recent contributions definitely don't look like vandalism...and it wouldn't be a reason to delete this page if they were, so I'll stop now as this is off topic. --Onorem ♠Dil 15:34, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP! - We should totally keep the Logos Lab School article. It's a one of a kind program and it's different from other programs. Logos has their own Speech Team! It should DEFINITELY NOT be deleted. Logos is really great. Such a great thing should definitely be on Wikipedia. Waterairfirearth (talk) 15:22, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

there has been coverage of the school. the Logos Pull-Outs did some presentations at the Wayne County Historical Museum. That was covered in the newspaper. Logos also hosts its own Speech Team. I once found some stuff online about some of the Logos Speech winners. The Logos Speech Team is really good.Waterairfirearth (talk) 15:18, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please add citations for those sources of coverage to the article. -- Whpq (talk) 15:29, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.boarddocs.com/in/rcs/Board.nsf/22f7cdda355d88ae85256d73006c3d49/4f25bd12d694d652852571b0004b5182/$FILE/Minutes 01-24-07.pdf] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waterairfirearth (talk • contribs)

Comment meetings of a school board don't establish notability. You were indicating coverage in a newspaper. -- Whpq (talk) 15:48, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment- Yes, I think we understand that this is not a majority vote, I don't really know why you would imply that I was telling people to "vote"...but sure...Thanks-Letter 7/Caleb (talk) 16:02, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No one implied you were but this conversation warrants the tag. Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 16:23, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment- What is the difference between other "non-notable" middle schools like E. M. Cope Middle School? I think that that should be proposed to the deleted...>.< Thanks-Letter 7/Caleb (talk) 16:06, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reply - That other stuff exists has no bearing as the discussion on the merits of this article. -- Whpq (talk) 16:13, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reply- Touché, point taken...but still- take the importance of Richmond and other neighboring cities...I still would like this article to exist for the purposes of educating what this program means to Richmond and such. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Letter 7 (talk • contribs) 18:33, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The article itself indicates how little there is to say about it.DGG (talk) 17:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Does not appear notable per policy. Assertions or desires as to the importance or otherwise of programs or establishments to a specific community are irrelevant. Plutonium27 (talk) 18:24, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reply Just because there isn't much about it on the article doesn't mean there isn't plenty of information to say about it. RandomDoom —Preceding comment was added at 18:31, 13 March 2008 (UTC) — RandomDoom (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Another note:Isn't Wikipedia supposed to be for the purpose of giving information, not restricting it? Just because the whole world may not care about Logos doesn't mean that nobody at all does. RandomDoom —Preceding comment was added at 18:39, 13 March 2008 (UTC) — RandomDoom (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Reply - I never thought about thatWaterairfirearth (talk) 19:29, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment- Yes, and ironicly...the reason that this page was set up for deletion is because I asked for help of expanding it...I almost guarantee that if I wouldn't have asked for any help, everything would be just fine, and those who want to view the article can...Thanks-Letter 7/Caleb (talk) 13:25, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.