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The result was redirect to Philip Morris International. History is under the redirect for attribution as there's no reason to delete it. Star Mississippi 00:41, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Longbeach (cigarette) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Can't find any indication from independent reliable sources that this is a notable brand. No significant coverage located. Cigarettespedia is a user-generated wiki, zigsam is just a website that collects pictures of cigarette packages. ♠PMC(talk) 23:44, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. per improvements made during the course of the AfD Star Mississippi 00:40, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The sole source in the article is mostly about the building that he bought. I've been unable to find any sources to support notability as an actor or as a musician. (Common name doesn't help.) Schazjmd (talk) 23:03, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Searching for <"Paul Reid" "Shortland Street"> only results in minor directory listings about how he was an actor in that show. Searching for <"Paul Reid" "Rubicon"> only results in minor directory listings about how he was a member of that band. In both cases you will also get some minor mentions about how he is now a landlord. Quantity does not matter if a lot of sources say very little; see WP:LOTSOFSOURCES. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 18:06, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I've expanded the article using just a few of the many references that show that GNG is met. During his three years playing a major character in New Zealand's longest-running and most popular television soap opera, there were a number of profiles of Reid in New Zealand newspapers, not freely available online but available via "The Knowledge Basket" database, some of which have been used in this expansion. Also, it is interesting to note that the very many more-recent (almost 20 years later) news articles about Reid's property development career invariably mention his past as a Shortland Street star, and often use publicity photos from that time. Paora (talk) 11:46, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Excellent work by Paora that shows that the subject is clearly notable. Schwede66 14:41, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per expansion by Paora.-gadfium 22:59, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per expansion and more reliable sources added by Paora.— NZFC(talk)(cont) 03:02, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. plicit 23:49, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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A ceo and entrepreneur who lacks in-depth significant coverage, this is tricky and I’d break it down, they do have google hits but unfortunately none are reliable. If you observe the sources (conducting your own research if you may) you’d note they are self published, pr sponsored, sources with no reputation for fact checking, & sources not independent of her, this shouldn’t confuse you, although this can be tricky for a new NPR reviewer. This is largely an WP:ADMASQ. Celestina007 (talk) 22:43, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. No substantial coverage of her at all. Everything indicates she's just another ordinary business executive, with no special claim to notability. JBW (talk) 22:54, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 03:37, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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While this artist has an interesting story and has had a couple of mentions in local media, there is no significant coverage of him or his music available. I turned up one of the magazine articles in question, but there's nothing really beyond that, and thus I feel this artist fails WP:NMUSIC. Tony Fox (arf!) 20:57, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Consensus is sourcing does not rise to the level required to keep this. If someone wants to actively work on this in draft space and dive deeper into potential sources, I'm happy to provide it. Star Mississippi 00:39, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The article has been referenced to nothing but primary sources since it's creation in 2010, I couldn't find anything in a WP:BEFORE when I looked that would help for notability, and in the meantime schools are not inherently notable. So either someone needs to find multiple, in-depth, secondary reliable sources about this or the article should be deleted. Adamant1 (talk) 17:28, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep I have added a couple of sources from Barbados Today and Nation News, which is a state-owned news company and considered reliable in Barbados. The school is quite old and dates back to 1898, though initially it was both boys and girls girl until separated to just girls school. But am sure with the sources I've added it should be somewhat ok, sources in barbados don't cover everything as it's still a developing country and very few publication houses. Regards. Jamiebuba (talk) 11:59, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Unfortunately none of that is even close to meeting the wp:Significant part of the GNG. It just shows that the school exists. The Barbados Today article just shows that there are vaccinations at that venue. One of the Nation News articles doesn't even mention the school other than a photo taken there, and the other just says a return to school is delayed. wp:ORG isn't met at all. Neonchameleon (talk) 16:19, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Being in Barbados isn't the trouble. Barbados has documentation of its education system going back to the 19th century, in Barbados Year Book issues, government reports, and all sorts of stuff. There's plenty of material on the Christ Church Foundation School, for example. The cause is nothing to do with the country and everything to do with this being a primary school rather than a secondary school. There are a lot more in-depth sources for secondary and tertiary education in Barbados, and not much for primary education. I couldn't find anything confirming this school's self-professed history, for example, although the secondary school(s) did get in the way a lot. Uncle G (talk) 23:11, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 23:50, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Island Academy International (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article is referenced to primary sources and I couldn't find anything about it in a WP:BEFORE when I looked that would help with notability. So this fails the notability guidelines. Adamant1 (talk) 17:02, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 23:05, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Teresa Ferster Glazier (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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My search for sources showed up listings of a book by her, mainly in later editions with a co-author, but nothing saying anything substantial about her. This article has existed with no sources for over 12 years. I was able to find this [3] that says she was an associate professor of English at Western Illinois University, but it is not a reliable source. Everything I can find is just incidental mentions of her in relation to the book. We have an article on the book, so a redirect might be worthwhile, but at least at present even the book does not seem to have sources at a level to show that it is notable. John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:08, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

1) The Least You Should Know about English
  • Guinn, D. M. (1978). "Review of The Least You Should Know about English; Writing from the inside out; The Authentic Writer, by T. F. Glazier, R. L. Optner, J. M. Mellard, & J. C. Wilcox". College Composition and Communication, 29(1), 70–74. https://doi.org/10.2307/356264 (via JSTOR)
  • "The Least You Should Know About English, Form C: Writing Skills, 11th Edition", ProtoView 2015 (via Gale)
  • "The least you should know about English; form b; writing skills, 11th ed", Reference & Research Book News, 2012, (via Gale)
  • "The least you should know about English; writing skills; form A, 10th ed", Reference & Research Book News, 2008, (via Gale)
  • "The least you should know about English; writing skills; form B, 9th ed", Reference & Research Book News, 2006, (via Gale)
  • "The least you should know about English; writing skills; form A, 9th ed", Reference & Research Book News, 2005, (via Gale)
  • discussed in "And They Wrote Happily Ever After: The Nature of Basic Writing as Portrayed in Textbooks", Composition Chronicle: Newsletter for Writing Teachers, 1996, full text available via ERIC
2) The least you should know about vocabulary building; word roots
  • "The least you should know about vocabulary building; word roots, 6th ed", Reference & Research Book News, 2007, (via Gale)
  • cited in "THE ROLE OF FRENCH LOANWORDS IN ENGLISH VOCABULARY INSTRUCTION", Fu Jen Studies: Literature & Linguistics, July 2016 (via Gale)
  • "The least you should know about vocabulary building; word roots, 5th ed." Reference and Research Book News 2004 (via ProQuest)

Also, a program she developed "to improve student self-image and reduce anxiety" is mentioned in context in Reigstad, T. J. (1985). PERSPECTIVES ON ANXIETY AND THE BASIC WRITER: RESEARCH, EVALUATION, INSTRUCTION. Journal of Basic Writing, 4(1), 68–77. (via JSTOR), at p. 71. And while this does not help support notability, there is some biographical information available on the Midland University website. There are also indications she has other works, e.g. via VIAF. However, most of the reviews are "capsules" from the same source, so while there is some support for notability, I think more is needed to get beyond Weak Delete Redirect. Beccaynr (talk) 20:39, 28 March 2022 (UTC) !vote updated to redirect to The Least You Should Know About English. - Beccaynr (talk) 01:43, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep Before I cast my !vote I went back to the article on the "book" and did some WP:BEFORE type of research. I discovered that it is widely used in USA and for people teaching english as a second language. It is listed on various university websites, libraries and non-US government websites as a go-to resource to learn English. It is reviewed and mentioned in academic literature. And it's not a book, it's a series of books, a body of work. I therefore consider that she satisfied the criteria for WP:AUTHOR for creating a significant body of work that is cited in multiple independent sources. CT55555 (talk) 21:12, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the discussion above about her books. Oaktree b (talk) 02:52, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep or redirect to her notable series of books. There's also some discussion about her program to improve student self-image here: JSTOR 43443440. pburka (talk) 20:36, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Poorly-attended AfD that could be closed N/C, but we have sources identified that counter the issues raised int he delete !vote, which itself acknowledges it's a notable concept. Whether this should be merged following sourcing can be discussed editorially. Star Mississippi 00:35, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Certified Arborist (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unsourced, written to subtly promote "Certified Arborists" and demote mere "ordinary" arborists. Not notable enough on its own to warrant an article. If anything from this could be kept, it should be merged with either the ISA article or the arborist article. Whilst this is heading into G11 territory, it isn't quite there. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 11:47, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Miller, Hauer & Werner 2015, pp. 255–256 discusses this subject, and indeed explains the whys and wherefores of certification and that yes, certified arborists are different to uncertified ones. Konijnendijk & Randrup 2005, p. 470 covers this subject, too. Then there are lots of little facts like the U.S. cities survey with respect to how many employed certified arborists, reported in footnote 33 of doi:10.4324/9781003054672-29. Clearly, there are sources to be had; and everything is fixable with the move and editing tools. Uncle G (talk) 13:19, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Miller, Robert W.; Hauer, Richard J.; Werner, Les P. (2015). Urban Forestry: Planning and Managing Urban Greenspaces (3rd ed.). Waveland Press. ISBN 9781478629498.
    • Konijnendijk, Cecil C.; Randrup, Thomas B. (2005). "Urban Forestry Education". In Konijnendijk, Cecil C.; Nilsson, Kjell; Randrup, Thomas B.; Schipperijn, Jasper (eds.). Urban Forests and Trees: A Reference Book. Springer Science & Business Media. ISBN 9783540276845.
  • I have only searched quickly however this research doi:10.1080/03071375.2016.1221178 shows an example of finding whether a CA makes a difference. This shows that the subject of CAs is of interest. Invasive Spices (talk) 28 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment Wikipedia is an international encyclopaedia. The current article appears unaware that the world extends beyond the US. The article would avoid the accusation of being promotional if it described the situation more widely. For example, in the UK, a tree surgeon isn't obliged to have any particular qualifications, and the title "certified arborist" has no particular meaning and is not protected - anyone could call themselves this. But the concept exists, in that a good tree surgeon is likely to have qualifications from the National Proficiency Tests Council. If the article is to be restricted to US certification, then it should be moved to "Certified Arborist (US)" to avoid confusion with parallel articles covering Australia, the UK, NZ etc. Elemimele (talk) 17:03, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Really, what needs to be done is improving the article, because there appears to be a notable concept that could be covered under the title "Certified Arborist". But this ain't it, chief. In the current state, it merely promotes the ISA and is fully unsourced (unless the External Links are meant to be sources?). casualdejekyll 18:57, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Draftify. Black Kite (talk) 18:20, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NCORP. The current sources in the article are a legal document the homepage of the website, a trade publication piece that's largely an interview with a Bavis employee, a labeled press release, and a second trade publication. Since WP:ORGIND indicates that trade publication pieces are generally not independent, the sourcing in the article fails to meet WP:ORGCRIT. I cannot find additional coverage indicating that would satisfy NCORP, so I suggest that the page be deleted. — Mhawk10 (talk) 18:27, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm an apprentice in Engineering in Ohio and Bavis is one of the largest providers of drive-thru technology in the state rivaling Diebold Nixdorf, with clients mostly at Walgreens and Chase, which I think for a 60-year-old company does warrant an article. I do have to concede that for the love of my life I cannot find good sources on this because Bavis is a private company in a niche trade, and Bavis and Fabacraft were two different companies before a merger. However, the articles although from the customers' trade magazines are from widely varying trades with enough notability to a large audience that I believe pass WP:NCORP, if admittedly barely. This articlefrom the Cincinnati Business Courier is one of the major business sources that I think can be admitted. Moreover, and this is a major argument, the company's main product trademark, the Vittleveyors, is a well-known product with major public coverage dating back to the 90s (trademark information). This article from The New York Times, along with this article and this article and are completely independent. I can make the case of creating an article for the Vittleveyors and linking Bavis as the producer. This is my first time creating an article so apologies for any confusion, but I believe the article should stay for now. Do let me know how I can expand this article to need guidelines. Quangson306 (talk) 02:50, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep thru Drafity. The first is from a source that the reliable sources discussions previously reached consensus was good, but it's a primary source mostly (i.e. not a secondary source, which is better).
However I found this: Levy, Sandra. "Supermarkets Stay Ahead: Supermarket operators turn to high-tech solutions to ensure patients stay adherent and healthy." Drug Store News, vol. 42, no. 5, May 2020, pp. 52 . Gale General OneFile, link.gale.com/apps/doc/A629603180/ITOF?u=wikipedia&sid=ebsco&xid=ae6a0556. Accessed 11 Apr. 2022.
It's called them "Bavis Drive-Thru" ad mentioned them five times, going into details about leadership
Likewise (same source, same author) Levy, Sandra. "Problem Solvers: Technology, automation aim to improve efficiency and enable clinical efforts." Drug Store News, vol. 42, no. 1, Jan. 2020, pp. 80 . Gale General OneFile, link.gale.com/apps/doc/A617763851/ITOF?u=wikipedia&sid=ebsco&xid=8cf459a2. Accessed 11 Apr. 2022.
ALso mentioned them borderline briefly, and with a quote.
I couldn't open the NYT article, would be happy to hear what it includes.
It seems the company is borderline notable, but their produce the Vittleveyor seems more clearly notable.
I could be persuaded in either direction depending what the NYT article says and what other people think, but I currently suggest this article be moved back into draft (draftify) and be changed into an article about Vittleveyors, that would then have a section about the company that makes them. CT55555 (talk) 22:34, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:03, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Purely WP:PROMO with no secondary sourcing. BEFORE shows existence but not notability. Slywriter (talk) 18:48, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🙃 (ICE-TICE CUBE) 01:45, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:BIO. A mere 2 gnews hits, 1 line mentions in plain Google search. His awards don't really add to notability. LibStar (talk) 22:53, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete The article got several issues. References are not reliable. Afzlfc (talk) 16:14, 28 March 2022 (UTC) (sockpuppet of FBedits)[reply]
  • Weak keep/Comment - The article isn't great, but I have a feeling the subject may actually scrape a pass after a thoughtful scrutiny of Google Books and Newspapers. Coverage pops up from the mid-1990s up to the 2010s, regularly enough for him not to be a solo flash-in-the-pan. He is mentioned (and illustrated) as a notable contemporary handbag designer in the curator Valerie Steele (of the Fashion Institute)'s 1999 bag book. Other fashion-focused books do also name check him, although individually they are pretty easy to dismiss as not "serious books", it still adds up over the last couple of decades. One of the more interesting hits was for this book on Filipino icons which seems to have something talking about how Totengco was responsible for introducing an "iconic" Filipino shoe called the bakya to the Western fashion scene, but the preview isn't showing me any of it. A Google Newspaper search shows a number of articles mentioning and discussing him in Filipino papers, although I suspect most of them are not considered RS (e.g. Philippine Daily Inquirer). The Manila Standard has a few pages dedicated to him but nothing hugely substantial, mainly quotes and a recap of what he had achieved by 2003, and some nice commentary on how he was able to pursue the American Dream before even going there became less accessible to Filipinos see here. I would like to know if there are Filipino-language articles on him as well. It isn't much, but I think there's *just* enough to scrape him through to qualify for a stub article. Mabalu (talk) 22:35, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Reply - Nothing but a few captions for his bags on NewspaperArchive. I am actually leaning towards a "delete but no prejudice against recreation" because as I said, it feels like he may just scrape through, but it's extremely borderline. Mabalu (talk) 20:06, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Modussiccandi (talk) 09:31, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:SIGCOV. Never been sourced. On the cat:nn list since 2010. scope_creepTalk 17:20, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If this is kept then I think it should be given the title "Robert Joel McLane" because as far as I can see he only used "Robert Joel" in one film. Lamona (talk) 20:58, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Some coverage a play he did as playwright got in the LA Times and San Bernardino County Sun. 3, 4. Several of his other plays were reviewed in the LA Times or LA Weekly and as the San Bernardino County Sun article noted, he was involved in early projects in the LA area for AIDS, now called APLA Health and was mentioned in LA Times and Associated Press articles from the mid 80s. I think with this added to the other sources linked above gets him over the GNG in non-trival coverage. GoldenAgeFan1 (talk) 16:20, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I added those and their info into the article. I also found a brief quote from a Robert McLane in an article about AIDS and the movie industry in which he is said to be a "counselor with the AIDS project". I'm now thinking that is him, given that the LA Times article also lists him in this role. I will add that link back into the article (I had put it in but then had doubts.) Lamona (talk) 21:17, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. plicit 12:36, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:MILL institution. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. The WP:NSCHOOL criteria have been made much stricter since the previous deletion discussion. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:26, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 21:30, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Article has no citations to independent sources and no media coverage. This non-notable state party convention for a non-notable state party has no case for an article. Toa Nidhiki05 17:57, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. plicit 23:54, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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unable to find any significant coverage independent of the subject of this unsourced WP:BLP. Does not appear to meet WP:GNG or WP:AUTHOR J04n(talk page) 17:10, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. While there are COI issues, the consensus here is sourcing exists to build an article.SPI closed cautioning too close a read into the creator's possible sockpuppet status, so that is not factored in. Attention from uninvolved editors to incorporate these sources would be helpful in terms of creating a bettter article. Star Mississippi 00:31, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:PROMO. Possible WP:UPE/WP:COI. Created in support of an ongoing AfD of the director's page. - Hatchens (talk) 09:01, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Hatchens, what kind of WP:PROMO? If subject is notable and i created the article then what’s is WP:PROMO in this? Please If a person has created something by working hard, then do not destroy it. I created all articles with my own wish. I do not take anything from anyone. If my subject is not notable the you can nominate to afd but please don’t do this without any reason. - IndaneLove (talk) 09:44, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - An article should speak for itself, and this article does not explain why the web series is notable. It lacks Reception information or any other mention of what third parties have said.
  • Keep the article may not be complete but it is referenced to six full reviews including reliable sources such as The Hindu, New Indian Express and Rolling Stone. Therefore a reception section could easily be written so this a clear pass of WP:GNG in my view, however if sockpuppetry is confirmed in the ongoing case then the article will be G5 deleted. Atlantic306 (talk) 00:03, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - this does seem to, as noted, have plenty of reliable sources. matt91486 (talk) 04:52, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Gopalganj Sadar Upazila. (non-admin closure) DMySon (talk) 06:25, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) and WP:N. See also WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. —Yahya (talkcontribs.) 06:29, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to List of smallest stars#SSSPM J0829-1309. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 10:43, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Previously rejected as a draft, but somebody just created it in article space. Fails WP:NASTRO and WP:GNG. Most of the sources are catalogs or even unreliable; and the few that mention this are either trivial mentions (like the Dieterich et al. paper) or the discovery paper (which, per NASTRO, is not independent). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 12:44, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • One of the studies (which was one of the two reliable references, although it only covered SSSPM J0829-1309 in one paragraph and the results) indicated that SSSPM J0829-1309 was fusing hydrogen and was a star. Some references (mainly older ones) say it is a brown dwarf, others say it is a star. Since we have no proof, it should not be redirected to something on brown dwarfs but something on red dwarfs, stars or just L-type stars/brown dwarfs. That is why a redirect to List of smallest stars (where it is already mentioned as a red dwarf, just without information) would be better than a redirect to List of brown dwarfs#Field brown dwarfs. If redirected, we will add information to the notes section to fix the information gap. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk) 15:16, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Spectroscopic classification of red high proper motion objects in the Southern Sky, N. Lodieu, R.-D., Scholz, M. J. McCaughrean, R. Ibata, M. Irwin and H. Zinnecker, A&A, 440 3 (2005) 1061-1078, DOI: https://doi.org/10.1051/0004-6361:20042456
R.-D. Scholz, H. Meusinger, SSSPM J0829–1309: a new nearby L dwarf detected in SuperCOSMOS Sky Surveys, Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, Volume 336, Issue 3, November 2002, Pages L49–L52, https://doi.org/10.1046/j.1365-8711.2002.05998.x Bli231957 (talk) 09:42, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The last one is a repeat of Source Number 2 (reliable but not independent). However, the other ones might establish some notability. What facts do they give that show notability and adhere to WP:SIGCOV? InterstellarGamer12321 (talk) 11:43, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If these do not establish notability, then check the ones that SIMBAD cites. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk) 11:44, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The other sources on SIMBAD are mostly all-encompassing surveys like Gaia or 2MASS. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 15:19, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The first is plainly a trivial mention, with the whole of the coverage on the star being (in an explanation of a graph), Two five-pointed stars filled with red are the L1 SSSPM J0829−1309 and the L2.5 2MASS J0523–1403, which are likely least massive stars in the local field (Dieterich et al. 2014).
The second one is also similarly not-very-much-to-be-said, with the whole of the coverage being The nearest L dwarf in our sample (SSSPM J0829−1309; L2.0) has a spectroscopic distance of ∼ 12 pc and we confirm the spectral type obtained from a lower signal-to-noise spectrum in the discovery paper by Scholz & Meusinger (2002) and This was successfully demonstrated by the discovery of the first field L dwarf, Kelu 1 (Ruiz et al. 1997), other bright L dwarfs including SSSPM J0829-1309 (Scholz & Meusinger 2002) and LSR 0602 3910 (Salim et al. 2003), and the very nearby T dwarfs ε Indi Ba,Bb (Scholz et al. 2003). These are, at best, trivial-ish mentions. This might be enough to support mention in an existing article about very-low-mass stars or brown dwarfs, but not nearly enough for a standalone article. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 15:13, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, since nothing establishes significant notability, I think we should redirect to List of smallest stars (which is an article on small and low-mass stars as well as some brown dwarfs) as said in my earlier comments. If something happens to make SSSPM J0829-1309 notable, we could always make it into a full article again. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk) 17:03, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. plicit 23:39, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Cannot be presumed independently notable as the political affairs of the Afghan government in KSA are (or were, depending on your interpretation, which doesn't really matter for this) conducted through the embassy in Riyadh. No sources cited to establish notability that way. ― Tartan357 Talk 08:35, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DMySon (talk) 06:27, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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A road with only a map reference does not met the notability standard. DGG ( talk ) 09:48, 4 April 2022 (UTC) I am also nominating the following related pages :[reply]

C32 road (Namibia) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) DGG ( talk ) 10:07, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The general precedent is that roads at the national level are notable. I am also hesitant to delete an article on these grounds since "only a map reference" could mean "we just haven't been able to find newspaper sources for an underrepresented area like Namibia yet so there must be none". --Rschen7754 18:08, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 22:55, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Meets WP:GNG. Lots of coverage including that cited in the article. (t · c) buidhe 10:59, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
in the article NO.--Владимир Бежкрабчжян (talk) 15:35, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Tower of London. Very selectively, per nom. Sandstein 18:02, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Continung the series of articles that violate WP:IPC, WP:GNG, WP:NLIST, WP:INDISCRIMINATE and WP:TRIVIA, this time we have the Tower of London. The important difference this time is the reasonably well referenced opening prose paragraph is, for some reason, not present in the main ToL article and needs to be merged into it (which I'll be happy to do once this is closed, upon a ping by the closer, if such a merge hasn't been done yet), but the rest of the article, consisting of mostly unreferenced TVTrope'ic list of trivia, needs to go as usual. Let's spend a minute of silence considering the quality information that will be pruned, like "In the game Simcity Societies, one of the prison-like buildings, dungeon, looks-like the Tower of London." or "In the novel Stars and Stripes Triumphant, the Tower of London is partially destroyed by invading American ironclads." ... Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:13, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnbod: Do you have nothing better to do than attacking other editors (in this case one who has been here for 18 years and created thousands of articles) because they disagree with you about the kind of content we should have on an encyclopedia? AusLondonder (talk) 12:54, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And also done a lot of useful work on Wikipedia-related research. This was exactly my point, and that wasn't an attack. Johnbod (talk) 13:55, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well, yes it is. Johnbod (talk) 13:51, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid you have a fundamentally different understanding of what Wikipedia is to my understanding then. AusLondonder (talk) 14:37, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. The last two "keep" opinions make no sense, but we don't have consensus for deletion either. Sandstein 18:07, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Plot-only article, which violates the WP:NOTPLOT policy. BlackShadowG (talk) 04:22, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep The character is notable and there are many credible sources pertaining to them. While it is true that the article needs work, the plot section can be trimmed and more substantive information can be added. Underclass King (talk) 23:47, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 18:01, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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This page should be deleted per WP:NOTHOWTO. NotReallySoroka (talk) 07:08, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Hijacking the article is not sensible. Anyone is free to create a disambiguation page using this title. plicit 07:26, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Unreferenced article and no evidence of notability. - Xexerss (talk) 06:47, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 03:26, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:RUNOFTHEMILL, fails GNG Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 04:43, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete for very run of the mill coverage. The building isn't listed on the NRHP so it's not notable. The congregation simply exists and seems no more important than the other hundreds of churches. Oaktree b (talk) 14:03, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. No consensus, and no one !voting for delete with a niche topic unlikely to draw more input. Where to and whether this should be merged can be handled editorially. Star Mississippi 00:27, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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This article is very short and has no reasonable chance at ever being expanded. Almost all information covered within this article is already covered at Fairy chess piece#Leapers, and that which is not can simply be moved to said section. The article cites only one source that specifically covers the topic. ISaveNewspapers (talk) 03:01, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. I am not an expert at all, but according to Piececlopedia the term refers to the orthogonal movement, as there are hippogonal leapers and hippogonal riders. I also think that the article could be expanded with other games pieces and with tactical possibilities of this kind of movement. Alexcalamaro (talk) 13:04, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • If even that WWW site doesn't give this its own article, which as you have just pointed to it does not, why? And expanded based upon what sources? Parlett has things to say, but they are relevant to the things that xe has to say them about, which have other articles. Uncle G (talk) 07:53, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 02:35, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG - lacks independent, significant coverage in reliable sources. -Liancetalk/contribs 01:26, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. plicit 02:34, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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impressive, albeit non-notable kid, no in depth coverage, just minor local awards and nothing beyond that. CUPIDICAE💕 00:42, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to List of mayors of Springfield, Missouri#List of Mayors. plicit 02:37, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NPOL on merit, and fails WP:GNG as well, as no non-local sources that provide WP:SIGCOV seem to exist. Curbon7 (talk) 00:32, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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