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The result was delete. czar 21:38, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
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Fails WP:N. She was only notable for the Cyberpunk 2077 epilepsy incident and RS was mainly focusing on the game causing epileptic seizures rather than her being a journalist or a reviewer. It lacks sufficient independent sources to justify notability. OceanHok (talk) 11:21, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. OceanHok (talk) 11:21, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Journalism-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 13:15, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete Per WP:ONEEVENT.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 17:00, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Delete a non-notable journalist.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:56, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Keep The subject is a notable journalist due to her multiple bylines across several noteworthy websites (Game Informer, editor-in-chief Prima Games, etc.). That fact is highlighted by several noteworthy sources. The article in question was also recently edited to establish the subject's role in the Cyberpunk 2077 incident and it too currently includes numerous independent sources. ImWithStoopid13 (talk) 07:49, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- To establish notability, the article has to be about her rather than being written by her. OceanHok (talk) 08:09, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- I don't understand your point. The article features multiple sources independent of her work (i.e. not Game Informer). That should establish a basic qualification of notability as per WP:GNG. ImWithStoopid13 (talk) 08:38, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- @ImWithStoopid13: There are four sentences aside from this event. One sentence is sourced from a personal twitter announcement. Another is unsourced. Unless there is more that I am missing, I don't think this meets WP:GNG. --Elephanthunter (talk) 09:14, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Elephanthunter: Ah okay, fair enough. I agree with you on both those issues and I've made edits addressing them. Regardless of my editing oversights, I still believe the subject warrants an article, established by her noteworthy journalism career. ImWithStoopid13 (talk) 21:09, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- For it to be noteworthy, it needs to have things written about it by others. Simply using original research to locate articles by her does not prove it is noteworthy.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 00:04, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, I'm definitely missing something here. By my count, only three sources in the article are written by her and these were simply meant to be secondary to other more proper sources. The remaining dozen are entirely independent of the subject (i.e. not from a site she writes for) and each varyingly reference her prominence as a journalist.ImWithStoopid13 (talk) 03:38, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- A quick way to see whether the articles are about her or not, just look at the title of the articles. Source 1-5, 9-14 are all about the games than the journalists. 6-7 does not sound like RS, and source 8 is a primary source (because she worked there). For an individual to meet WP:GNG, it needs to have significant coverage, not some passby mentions. OceanHok (talk) 05:44, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, I'm definitely missing something here. By my count, only three sources in the article are written by her and these were simply meant to be secondary to other more proper sources. The remaining dozen are entirely independent of the subject (i.e. not from a site she writes for) and each varyingly reference her prominence as a journalist.ImWithStoopid13 (talk) 03:38, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- For it to be noteworthy, it needs to have things written about it by others. Simply using original research to locate articles by her does not prove it is noteworthy.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 00:04, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Elephanthunter: Ah okay, fair enough. I agree with you on both those issues and I've made edits addressing them. Regardless of my editing oversights, I still believe the subject warrants an article, established by her noteworthy journalism career. ImWithStoopid13 (talk) 21:09, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- @ImWithStoopid13: There are four sentences aside from this event. One sentence is sourced from a personal twitter announcement. Another is unsourced. Unless there is more that I am missing, I don't think this meets WP:GNG. --Elephanthunter (talk) 09:14, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- I don't understand your point. The article features multiple sources independent of her work (i.e. not Game Informer). That should establish a basic qualification of notability as per WP:GNG. ImWithStoopid13 (talk) 08:38, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- To establish notability, the article has to be about her rather than being written by her. OceanHok (talk) 08:09, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per our one-event policy, as cited by Zxcvbnm. Writing articles is not a notability indicator under Wikipedia's policies; she was written about (in a significant way) just in connection to her C2077 review. IceWelder [✉] 21:12, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Only notable for one event that is sufficiently covered on the Cyberpunk 2077 page. ErieSwiftByrd (talk) 17:58, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - does not meet WP:GNG, WP:BIO1E also applies. Onel5969 TT me 15:29, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
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