Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Left-wing Youth (China)

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The result was speedy delete‎. CSD G5 Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:20, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Left-wing Youth (China)

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Created by a sock of 维基中二群体代表. The current entry is a bad case of "Wikipedia:WORDISSUBJECT", and is actually about the leftist youth movement in contemporary China, not the leftist youth as the term that has been used since the May Fourth Movement. In addition, I've never seen a likewise entry in Wikipedia. I know there are entries like the "American Left" and the Wandervogel, but I've never seen "Left-wing Youth (USA)". From this I suggest deleting, renaming or giving it a restart. ときさきくるみ^{not because they are easy, but because they are hard} 06:55, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: China and Politics. ときさきくるみ^{not because they are easy, but because they are hard} 07:14, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You first need to proof that "someone am a sock of someone", otherwise it is an ungrounded claim.

Regarding the article itself, I don't see any problem here. "Left-wing Youth (USA)" does not exist because there is no such a distinct youth community associated with certain figures and events in the USA. If there is (I don't think so), surely it could be created as well. NZCAJD2 (talk) 08:00, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

IMO "a sock of" is quite Wikipedia:DUCK, as you have done twice of evading. I wouldn't mind pinging a few admins here to confirm this. @Sotiale and Blablubbs:

I don't know how the references you cite demonstrate that it's a "distinct group associated with certain people and events"; technically, only about 4 or 5 sources speak specifically to the composition of the student left, while most of the rest of the literature treats it as a general term. Therefore, a bit of Wikipedia:Recentism. What you say about the US not having one is also problematic ([1]). ときさきくるみ^{not because they are easy, but because they are hard} 08:35, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Let me inform other potential participants of the AfD discussion. The user initiated AfD of the article's Chinese version, which seems doomed to fail. So now he wants it to be deleted in English wikipedia. But the English one is exactly translated from there.

I would advice you to focus on the content of the article instaed of referring to other cases, being in the USA or elsewhere. The Subject of the article is very clear: a gounp of college students born in the 1990s, mostly related the Jasic Incident and Peking University Marxist Society. It is not about "left-wing youth" during the 1920s. If you want to create an article for the latter (I doubt whether there are enough sources), you can do it. NZCAJD2 (talk) 09:41, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: NZCAJD2 has been verified and blocked globally. ときさきくるみ^{not because they are easy, but because they are hard} 13:14, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I added WP:G5 speedy deletion request to the article as it's created by sock with no substantive edits afterwards. Jumpytoo Talk 00:36, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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