Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laura Beyne (2nd nomination)
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The result was no consensus. North America1000 07:54, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG. Known from just WP:ONEEVENT. The Banner talk 09:45, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete The coverage is all pageant focused. We lack coverage truly giving significant coverage to her.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:26, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- Keep French Belgian sources discuss her work as a presenter on a TV show starting in 2020, more than enough mention of her as a pageant winner and subsequent career. Oaktree b (talk) 16:54, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- Keep The article states she participated in three beauty pageant events, including e.g. Miss Belgium (Getty, Jan. 2012), Miss Universe (Getty, Dec. 2012), and there are sources that could expand the article and support WP:BASIC notability in addition to the more recent sources, e.g. BET "Laura Beyne, 19, became the second Black Miss Belgium when she won the Miss Belgium 2012 competition earlier this month.", Black Beauty Queens Have Broken Barriers (The Root, 2013). Per the Wikiproject Beauty Pageants essay on notability,
Winners of the national-level pageants which select participants for the Big Four pageants are [...] generally presumed to be notable.
Beccaynr (talk) 18:28, 8 February 2022 (UTC)- There was an attempt to turn that into an actual inclusion standard, and it was very resoundly defeated.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:24, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- A preliminary round and a main round still belongs to one event. The Banner talk 19:34, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I have added new info and her credentials as a TV show host and bunch of new citations. As such she meets WP:ENT, not only with her TV host career, but also as Miss Belgium.Caphadouk (talk) 18:34, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per Johnpacklambert. WP:NBEAUTY is an essay and does not change the fact that the only "real" standard is WP:GNG - extrapolating a biography from links on photos, as above, is also WP:OR. The current coverage of her nascent TV career does not, in my opinion, establish notability. It is possible that she may become notable in the future, but I am certainly not convinced at the moment. —Brigade Piron (talk) 08:26, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 13:33, 15 February 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:42, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Keep this seems to be sourced enough to meet the notability guidelines. Also, she has began a career as a TV show host and such, so the notable of one event guideline does not apply. I sees sources including BET and other French sources dated to different dates. Seems good enough to keep to me. Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 03:03, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- Notification was made about this AfD at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red. - Beccaynr (talk) 15:55, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
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