Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laura Bennett (2nd nomination)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus to delete. W.marsh 21:19, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Laura Bennett (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
Non-notable losing reality show contestant. No establishment of notability outside the show. Hard to find references that are not PR material from the show. Mikeblas 20:02, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete or Merge The article should be deleted along with all of the other candidates for the show since most are only a paragraph or so with little chance of expansion. It would probably be best to incorporate them all into one list of contestants of Project Runway season 3. --Nehrams2020 21:30, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. This article has previously passeed a vote for deletion. We understand that you this particular reality show may not be your cup of tea. That does not mean this contestant is not worthy of an article here. We have articles for fictional characters in video games, for god sakes. Crunch 04:42, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. The previous AfD was while the show was still active, and there was the anticipation of more fame. That fame never arrived. That we have articles for fictional characters in video games is irrelevant. To me, all it means is that we can't delete cruft fast enough. My wife loves the show, and I think it's okay. But that's also irrelevant. Let me know if you have any other questions -- particularly if they're pertinent to the deletion debate or the establishment of WP:BIO notability for this person. -- Mikeblas 14:36, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The "keep" votes in the previous AfD do NOT have "anticipation of more fame." Consensus was she was notable then and Notability is permanent. --Oakshade 00:28, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. The previous AfD was while the show was still active, and there was the anticipation of more fame. That fame never arrived. That we have articles for fictional characters in video games is irrelevant. To me, all it means is that we can't delete cruft fast enough. My wife loves the show, and I think it's okay. But that's also irrelevant. Let me know if you have any other questions -- particularly if they're pertinent to the deletion debate or the establishment of WP:BIO notability for this person. -- Mikeblas 14:36, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Barely any of the keep !votes on the previous Afd were because she was notable, they were mostly "I like her". No independent sources, fails WP:BIO. One Night In Hackney 05:46, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep To address One Night In Hackney's concern, I actually dislike this woman, but I still think she is notable. My personal rule of thumb is that usually the final 1/3 of contestants in a 'job search"-style reality show are notable enough for an article. This woman made it to the very final round. Very noteworthy. tiZom(2¢) 19:54, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment My concern isn't whether people like or dislike her, in fact I've never seen or even heard of the show or her, but that has no bearing on her notability. The fact is she fails WP:BIO, specifically The person has been a primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person. There's not enough source material to create a verifiable encyclopedic article about her in my opinion, if more sources are added my opinion will change though obviously. For example see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ben Mills. At the time he was simply a losing contestant (finished third) on a show (similar to American Idol, but with slight differences) and wasn't notable. However since then he's signed a five album deal with Sony and is therefore notable. In my opinion runners up (and sometimes winners) of reality shows aren't notable unless they achieve something afterwards. One Night In Hackney 20:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Your personal rule of thumb is just that; it's not a way to establish notability. To establish notability for people, we use WP:BIO. -- Mikeblas 17:00, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.